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In National Parks
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Oct 31, 2018 2:13pm
According to "The Letterboxer's Companion" by Randy Hall, letterboxes are against regulations to placed in National Parks. Yet, I have found them there and wonder if actually, I should ignore them if they are not legally supposed to be there. What do others say?
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967637 by butterfly jane
Oct 31, 2018 4:33pm
I have heard that also. I am interested to see if anyone else has input. Good question!
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967637 by butterfly jane
Oct 31, 2018 5:05pm
When Randy wrote that book in 2004 that was true. Now there are policies that can allow for them to be planted.
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967651 by Eidolon
Oct 31, 2018 5:27pm
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967652 by Oberon_Kenobi
Oct 31, 2018 5:44pm
Start here.
"Because of the diversity of GPSRA and the variations in the way they are (or can be) managed, the Service does not have a policy explicitly allowing or prohibiting any of these activities."
I stopped reading at that point since that answers the question that people always ask.
"Because of the diversity of GPSRA and the variations in the way they are (or can be) managed, the Service does not have a policy explicitly allowing or prohibiting any of these activities."
I stopped reading at that point since that answers the question that people always ask.
Re: In National Parks
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967656 by Eidolon
Oct 31, 2018 6:50pm
Hate i didnt know this in June! Went from Alabama to Wyoming & through a lot of National Parks & Forests.
Oh well, ready for next year!
Oh well, ready for next year!
Re: In National Parks
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967656 by Eidolon
Oct 31, 2018 7:32pm
From the NPS link:
So the answer to the OP seems to be no, don’t automatically assume a letterbox in a National Forest is placed illegally.
So the answer to the OP seems to be no, don’t automatically assume a letterbox in a National Forest is placed illegally.
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967663 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Oct 31, 2018 8:53pm
Actually this link and your quote only applies to National Parks. Department of the Interior.
National Forests are Department of Agriculture which has never had a ban.
But essentially it is like many other state and local parks, whether the box is allowed is officially up to the park manager, if you choose to ask them.
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967637 by butterfly jane
Oct 31, 2018 10:06pm
As a general rule in my travels is I do not plant on NP property, though as some of you who have found my NP themed boxes they may be right over the boundary line (Zion, Bryce, Capitol reef, fossil butte) and some of those you have to drive through he NP to get to non-NP public land. I have found a few boxes on NP property but I doubt they were placed there with permission. Only one in CO, was at the visitor center and you had to ask a ranger. As eidolon said, you would need permission from the park manager otherwise.
I did not find this to be the same in Canada parks though.
I did not find this to be the same in Canada parks though.
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967671 by Dawgdok
Nov 1, 2018 6:27am
What are Canadian rules?
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967681 by All 4 Bama
Nov 1, 2018 8:32am
So I couldn’t find anything specific to letterboxing but here are the geocaching rules. Similar, but in my opinion a little more liberal than the US National Park regulations, or that just may be my interpretation, but I’m not a lawyer, I’m a dawgdok.
https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/docs/pc/guide/geocache
https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/docs/pc/guide/geocache
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Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967637 by butterfly jane
Nov 1, 2018 1:34pm
I've been boxing for 12 years, and have always gone by the philosophy of "what they don't know wont hurt them."
As long as the box was just off a trail, or in a safe area I would look for it . . . heck, I'd even plant one there (have to make sure the clues are cryptic enough not to pop up on their searches).
However, if a box is WAY off the path, in an unsafe/fragile area, I'd stay away.
hx6
As long as the box was just off a trail, or in a safe area I would look for it . . . heck, I'd even plant one there (have to make sure the clues are cryptic enough not to pop up on their searches).
However, if a box is WAY off the path, in an unsafe/fragile area, I'd stay away.
hx6
Re: In National Parks
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #967691 by Dawgdok
Nov 1, 2018 6:58pm
Thanks! This is a very educational topic!