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Msg: 967064
Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: PiggyJauntProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 21, 2018 9:46 AM
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Reply to: Msg 967063 by Captain Slick Kitty
This is one of the smartest ghost stories I've ever seen and it doesn't dissolve into stupidity. Each episode goes further into each member of the family and their experiences. It's brilliant in the way it deliberately unfolds the story slowly. You have to pay attention and you're rewarded for it. I was not let down, even if the ending is somewhat sentimental for my taste. You'll be on the edge of your seat the whole time. Give it a chance, it'll grow on you and absorb you. I think I watched the whole thing in three days!
Msg: 967073
Janila Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: JanilaProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 21, 2018 12:25 PM
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Reply to: Msg 967064 by PiggyJaunt
I started watching this show based on other people's recommendations and I have to tell you...I don't like it. I will agree that the show is creepy but to me, I had a terrible time trying to empathize with the characters, except, perhaps the mother and, if I try hard enough, maybe the twins. The father is cold and wooden, Steve as an adult is a rather arrogant jerk, the two older sisters are rigid and mean. I have one more episode to finish the series and I am trying to force myself to watch that last episode to see if maybe I will understand other people's ravings about the show.

I had to come back and edit this a little, I did find the parts that showed the children, especially the twins, to be the most endearing part of this show. It is the adults that I just couldn't warm up to.
Msg: 967079
DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: DarkZen and Evil Cow PieProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 21, 2018 2:44 PM
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Reply to: Msg 967073 by Janila
I have to agree with Janila, I didn’t care for it a lot. It started out well enough, but for us, the last couple of episodes lost the plot and devolved into a lot confusion, jump scares and platitudes. IMO, they should have stuck more to the book.
Msg: 967127
Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: Only DreamingProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 22, 2018 10:10 AM
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Reply to: Msg 967063 by Captain Slick Kitty
I almost watched this yesterday afternoon, but decided on something else in the end.. think I might check it out this week... maybe.. lol
Msg: 967137
Janila Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: JanilaProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 22, 2018 1:07 PM
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Reply to: Msg 967073 by Janila
I forced myself to watch the last episode last night and have to say, it was so boring, I could hardly stay awake. Well, at least I can say I gave it every chance to interest me possible.
Msg: 967326
Captain Slick Kitty Subject: Haunted, another Netflix Original Series
Author: Captain Slick KittyProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 24, 2018 10:11 PM
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Between the exceptional Haunting of Hill House to the not yet viewed by this author Malevolent, Netflix is in full swing this spooky, haunting season.

One of Netflix's new releases is Haunted, a 6 episode series where the victim/survivor finally shares his/her horror/ghost story to family and friends surrounding them.

The first episode is The Lady In White. A man explains his horrible experience to a woman who killed her own children in an apartment and this man, as a young boy, moves the very next week into the very apartment. She in turn terrorizes him. And to make matters worse, his own parents not only don't care, he gets abused for trying to tell them about it.

Okay, yes. He seems credible. Even the people the around him, who initially sit stone-faced, start to feel this poor guy's pain.

Okay. Sure. He's telling the truth. I watch a lot of shows regarding people sharing/reliving their ghost experiences. Ghosts are real. This I believe.

This episode lasts about 24 minutes, so sure, click to the next episode. The next episode is called Slaughterhouse.

A woman named Terrilyn shares how growing up in Up State New York, in the woods, their house was built on Indian Burial grounds and how her father was a serial killer and her mother assisted. Her father would go to the bars and bring home "strays", innocent people that no one would notice if they go missing. And then, her dad would kill them and bury the bodies in the woods somewhere.

The episode goes on to show who even a grandson is subjected to the grandfather/father's abuse. And here I am like Um, no. Never in hell if I actually managed to escape slaughterhouse would I ever allow my precious child to alone with my father/serial killer.

But then it gets worse. This very same grandson inherits the house after the family claims the mom smothers the dad with a pillow--because the voices in the house told her to do it-- and the grandson explains how he orders a dumpster and guts the house of his grandfather's trophies...... trophies--items, like jewelry, he collected from his victims over the years of killing. And here I am like, Um, no. What you have done is criminal.

And now I am appalled! Just flat out appalled. I don't know who thought this episode was a wise idea but it's not. If this episode is true, then these people, especially the grandson, should be taken to jail for withholding evidence in a crime.

First episode, I thought was probably true. But this episode, I am saying "no" for it is disgusting and vulgar, and Netflix has used some poor judgement.

No Kitty Paw reviews for this crude, gimmicky show.

csk
Msg: 967457
foxfriend Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: foxfriendProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 28, 2018 12:26 PM
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Reply to: Msg 967063 by Captain Slick Kitty
Wow. I thought it was a wonderful take on THoHH too. Really scared me - so much so that after streaming 4 episodes, I accompanied the husband and dog on their midnight walk because I was afraid to stay in the house alone! Next night, made said husband come to bed after streaming episodes 5-8 because I refused to go upstairs alone! I loved the final episode but hated the ending. Hill House wouldn't be that nice.

Do you think they will make another season? I think a prequel could work.

As I've said noted before, I very much appreciate your horror movie reviews. Have you seen Mr. Frost with Jeff Goldblum? Eeek!
Msg: 967467
Captain Slick Kitty Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: Captain Slick KittyProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 28, 2018 6:13 PM
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Reply to: Msg 967457 by foxfriend
Believe it or not, I have not finished the series. I stopped after the 5th episode because it's become a family show and my son went on vacation with his father, so I had to put a pin in it. He will be back tomorrow, so tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow!

As I've said noted before, I very much appreciate your horror movie reviews.

Thank you!!!

Have you seen Mr. Frost with Jeff Goldblum?

I have not even heard of that. The cost of cable is obscene in our isolated, little town so I keep to Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Prime.

csk
Msg: 967475
InkTap Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: InkTapProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 28, 2018 8:38 PM
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Reply to: Msg 967064 by PiggyJaunt
The episodes were rather long, but the writers really delved into the character's mindset. Their personalities were believable to me as individuals coming from traumatic childhood experiences. The lengthy episodes conveyed that and I'm not sure it would have worked otherwise. Each child grew up and manifested the horrors in different ways. The last episode was extremely long and it was a disappointing/overly sappy ending. I agree with the poster that stated that the house would not have been so nice, lol.
Oh, and the ghosts were a lovely (albeit creepy) cinematic backdrop. The character biographies could have been the result of any trauma: alcoholism, physical/emotional abuse, etc. It would have worked even without Hill House.
Msg: 967478
DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie Subject: Re: Netflix's The Haunting of Hill House
Author: DarkZen and Evil Cow PieProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Oct 28, 2018 9:50 PM
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Reply to: Msg 967467 by Captain Slick Kitty
Have you seen Mr. Frost with Jeff Goldblum?

I have not even heard of that.

I saw it once years ago. From what I remember it was great. Not sure if would hold up but I’d watch it again.
Msg: 968622
DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie Subject: Sharp Objects
Author: DarkZen and Evil Cow PieProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Nov 22, 2018 8:26 PM
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HBO is streaming all of its programming for free — all weekend long. We just got through binging Sharp Objects. I won’t give this the full blown Captain Slick Kitty treatment but I will highly recomend it. The book was good and the miniseries was equally well done.

No spoilers but a suggestion - pay attention to details and hang in until the end... the very end. ;~)
Msg: 968628
BinoBoxer Subject: Re: Sharp Objects
Author: BinoBoxerProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Nov 23, 2018 5:52 AM
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Reply to: Msg 968622 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
THANK YOU!
Msg: 968648
Topcollector Subject: Re: Sharp Objects
Author: TopcollectorProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Nov 23, 2018 4:09 PM
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Reply to: Msg 968622 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Thanks for the heads up on free HBO. We always miss the free weekends. I found a few shows to record that I hadn't seen.
Msg: 968970
Captain Slick Kitty Subject: The Kominsky Method
Author: Captain Slick KittyProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 1, 2018 10:16 PM
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At age 74 Michael Douglas, whom I have loved since his "Jack T. Colton" sliding down the forest hillside in Colombia moment, has a new show playing on Netflix.

The premise is as followed: Michael plays Sandy Kominsky, a once glorious actor turned teacher. His best friend of 47 years and "talent agent" is Norman, played by Alan Arkin. Together they go through life's ups and downs. Douglas is irresponsible, self absorbed, near the line of jerk-ish and Arkin is moody, sad and trying to cope with real life issues. Together, they are kinda the odd couple.

Having said more than enough, on to my Kitty Paws:
One Kitty Paw for Douglas. Love, love, love him!
One Kitty Paw for Arkin.
One Kitty Paw for their great banters and perfect zingers
One Kitty Paw because this show is appropriate for these men and you like them.

At 4 Kitty Paws, I highly recommend it. The first season has 8 episodes that play between 28 to 32 minutes and you can do in one setting.

Be warned though. These are old men, playing old men. If you are looking for slap happy jive this is not your show. This is a show about two old men, trying to get through the day. You will see some of Douglas's favorite pals.

So if you are interested, I suggest cracking open a bottle of your favorite wine, settling in and getting to know these guys.

Fingers crossed there will be more seasons to come.

csk
Msg: 968972
Jabber Subject: Re: The Kominsky Method
Author: JabberProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 2, 2018 4:56 AM
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Reply to: Msg 968970 by Captain Slick Kitty
My husband and I both enjoyed this show watched over 2 nights. We are in our 70s and not many shows are in our demographic. My biggest problem was the Lisa Edelstein character as I recently binge watched 8 seasons of House, and although she was excellent, I just couldn’t not see her as Dr. Cuddy. I also liked the drama students that were cast for his class. What a great opportunity for so many to get exposure.
Msg: 968976
Subject: Re: The Kominsky Method
Author: jlsd0218ProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 2, 2018 8:08 AM
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Reply to: Msg 968970 by Captain Slick Kitty
I loved this show so much! I watched the entire series in one night! I hope there are more seasons!!
Msg: 968985
Janila Subject: Re: The Kominsky Method
Author: JanilaProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 2, 2018 11:09 AM
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Reply to: Msg 968970 by Captain Slick Kitty
I just finished it and really enjoyed it also. It is like the male version of Grace and Frankie.
Msg: 969174
Kit Kat 61 Subject: Re: The Kominsky Method
Author: Kit Kat 61ProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 7, 2018 8:29 PM
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Reply to: Msg 968970 by Captain Slick Kitty
Thank you so much for making me aware of this show! I don’t really keep track of new shows on Netflix, and I would have missed it. I’ve only watched a few episodes, but I am quite enjoying it!
Msg: 969351
Trekkie Gal Subject: Timeless series finale
Author: Trekkie GalProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 13, 2018 12:49 PM
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I wasn't even aware that they had agreed to do a Timeless series finale episode/special/movie, let alone started filming it. But apparently they did film it, because it airs Thursday, December 20th. Looking forward to it!!

TG
Msg: 969363
paper trail Subject: Re: Timeless series finale
Author: paper trailProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 13, 2018 3:23 PM
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Reply to: Msg 969351 by Trekkie Gal
Thanks for the word - hadn't known about it, but now I'm looking forward to it, too!
Msg: 969367
Subject: Re: Timeless series finale
Author: Oberon_KenobiProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 13, 2018 5:33 PM
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Reply to: Msg 969351 by Trekkie Gal
Just speculating, but there are two ways I can think of ending it.

1) Make sure time travel is/was/never will be invented.

2) Go back farther in time and kill the man they tried to kill before.
Msg: 969563
Subject: Timeless movie
Author: Alaska hsmProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 20, 2018 6:48 PM
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Reply to: Msg 957867 by Alaska hsm
Whoo hoo watching timeless right now. Wish it wasn't ending.
Msg: 969567
Subject: Re: Timeless movie
Author: Oberon_KenobiProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 20, 2018 8:24 PM
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Reply to: Msg 969563 by Alaska hsm
But they did wrap it up in a nice little package, for Christmas.

And the ending reminds me of the ending of Final Exam.
Msg: 969778
Captain Slick Kitty Subject: Norsemen~ A Netflix Originial
Author: Captain Slick KittyProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 30, 2018 1:04 PM
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With Christmas over and now that the family has left, I and my husband have the weekend to ourselves for the first time in months. My choice of activity? Now that the TV is no longer being Fortnite monopolized, binge watching Netflix.

Of the two shows I settled on, Norsemen was one of them. Initially I did not intend to write a review as this show is cruel, crude, out there and, at times, shocking. Per the show these Norsemen are Vikings with their raids, their pillaging, their violating of women or in Froya's case monks, customs, and brutal strength. Despite this description, it is a comedy. And not even a dark comedy, at that.

Set in Norway, it centers around the power and power struggle around the Chieftain of the village of Northeim. This also includes the women of the village, in an "almost reversal of sexual roles". The women are more manipulative and conniving while the men come across as Fargo dumb-witted.

The "charm" of this show is it's characters. The Cheftain, Cheftain Olva has just returned with his band of vikings from a successful raid, having left his obnoxious, foppish dandy of brother in charge. The rivalry between the two is obvious as no one really likes Orm, the brother, and everyone reveres Olva. As Cheftain, Olva is a decent man, dedicated to the ways of their heritage and wants what's best for his village. Olva's right hand man is Arvid, who is kind, not very bright, single, but will kill you, brutally, if need be. You will like him. Also in this returning band is Froya, the only girl warrior viking, who has the sad, embarrassing fate of being Orm's wife. (This must have been an arrangement marriage. I don't really know.) Not part of the band but a quirky character from the village is Kart, the free slave who just wants to be part of the village. Then there's Jarl Vang, who is as one critic put it, is "The Bald of Evil", and then there's that 8th century hot tube scene where you are cringing on your couch, wondering "is this really happening?" Yeah. It is. It is.

Besides the characters, the drive of this show is two-fold. One is the soap opera love story and the other is it's "out of nowhere plots scenes", if you will. For instances, one of Jarl Vang's men starts having PTSD after Jarl Vang's band raids and pillages the people of Northeim. This leads to his wife encouraging him to discuss his feelings openly in front of the Baldness (as I'd prefer) of Evil, which essentially leads to other warriors around the table discussing "what's my motivation to violate women and pillage?" feelings. I highly doubt the real Vikings had these conversations.

Despite it's Nordic setting, it is in English and makes several references to today's society, Trump included. Fair warning, though, it does have adult related moments and references, though not a lot of nudity. One scene maybe?

If you are going to watch this show, you absolutely can not take this show seriously. Seriously. You have to check your American sense of proprieties at the door. This show is considered the Monty Python of Vikings and even though it's set in 790, it's got a 2018 loutish sense of mentality.

As for me, despite it's crass, immaturity and occasional shocking moments of violence, I am not certain I will watch season 3. I became vested and not to spoil anything, but I was not okay with how Season 2 ends. They had a horse whisperer gets killed by a horse moment and it has not sat well with me. So, with my bitterness, I shall refrain from my Kitty Paw ratings.

One more bit of warning though, they do kinda play out Rufus of Rome and Orm in Season 2. Even I was like, someone just kill them already.

csk
Msg: 969780
Captain Slick Kitty Subject: The Bodyguard~ A Netflix Series
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Date: Dec 30, 2018 2:25 PM
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As I mentioned in my review of Norsemen, since my TV was no longer a PlayStation vessel, I took the opportunity to binge watch two Netflix original shows. One was Norsemen and, on the opposite side of the spectrum was Bodyguard.

Set in 2018 London, England, it centers around a young police Sargent who is struggling with a failed marriage due to untreated PTSD, and his assignment of protecting the Home Security Secretary.

The first episode opens with Sargent David Budd, played by Richard Madden, the same actor who played Robb Stark in the Game of Thrones, is on the train with his children. He spots a suspicious character outside the train station and over hears a train officer trying to make contact with the suspicious character. Acting upon instincts, he gets involved and ends up talking down a Jihad bomber. This launches his career from a police Sargent to the personal bodyguard of Julia Montague, the Home Security Secretary of the British government.

In contrast to David is Julia Montague, the hard driven politician who is pushing for the passage of a law that gives the British government stronger authority to delve into deeper people's privacy to, in theory, weed out terrorist. Julia's hard pressed attitude of not apologizing for their part in Afghanistan, immediately puts her at odds with David, who fought in Afghanistan and as such now suffers from PTDS. But Sargent Budd has a job to do and despite their political differences, he is determined to do it.

But the question does arise, what's the real job?

Having provided the basis of this 6 episode series, on to my Kitty Paw reviews:
Two Kitty Paws for Richard Madden's performance. He does an excellent job of walking between "on the job" and suffering from the job. Madden has even obtained Golden Globe nomination for this role.
One Kitty Paw for the director. He does a great build of tension, and leaves the audience hanging at the exactly the right spot.
One Kitty Paw for spreading "the suspicion" equally, even including our own man, Budd.

I do have one issue though. In real life, the "real" bad person would never confess. And this, I do assume, is supposed to be the final of two plot twists of the show. Now, I before I wrote this review I spoke with my friend who co-watched from her own couch this show. And I said this to her. And she agreed that it was unlikely in real life that the bomb maker would ever confess but maybe after getting a high profile target I guess I can see the bomb maker's confession. And yes, they do have to tidy up all the loose ends of the show. But think, for me, they did such a grand job of setting up everyone for having motive, that it really could have anyone of them and not the confessed bomber.

Anyhoo, as of November, Madden has met with the creator for a potential Season 2. I don't know how well that will work, especially they did address David Budd's character's flaws in this season.

And lastly, being honest, I watched this series alone, and after everyone went to bed. Why? Even though Madden is not what I consider attractive, somewhere between the Scottish accent, the suit and tie, and the life saving heroic scenes, Madden is extremely attractive. ;o)

csk
Msg: 969781
Subject: Re: Norsemen~ A Netflix Originial
Author: Oberon_KenobiProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 30, 2018 3:44 PM
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Reply to: Msg 969778 by Captain Slick Kitty
Not part of the band but a quirky character from the village is Kart, the free slave who just wants to be part of the village.

Being a slave, he would certainly not be owning anything. Nevertheless, he will eventually be leading someone else's livestock somewhere.

This would turn into a case of putting the Kart before the horse. 😊
Msg: 969785
Public Hand Subject: Re: The Bodyguard~ A Netflix Series
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Date: Dec 30, 2018 6:14 PM
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Reply to: Msg 969780 by Captain Slick Kitty
C'apn?

All it takes is the accent.....

Just sayin'. 8D
Msg: 969834
wassamatta u Subject: The Orville, Season 2 Episode 1
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Date: Dec 31, 2018 7:31 PM
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Received 12/31/2018

To: <Name Redacted>
From: Corporate HR
Re: Restroom Etiquette


Mr. <Redacted>:
It has come to our attention, via numerous complaints, that we seem to be having an issue regarding common restroom etiquette. Several employees whose cubicles are near the Men's Restroom have emailed us regarding "loud yelling in a foreign tongue" coming from said restroom recently. These complaints, according to eyewitnesses, seem to revolve around your visits. To be blunt... please stop yelling in the restroom once you have done your "business". It is distracting and, frankly, perplexing. What exactly does "Ja-Loja" mean, anyway?
Sincerely, HR
Msg: 969841
Neoterra Subject: Re: The Orville, Season 2 Episode 1
Author: NeoterraProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 31, 2018 10:44 PM
M-40
Reply to: Msg 969834 by wassamatta u
Great show
Msg: 970283
Captain Slick Kitty Subject: Ordeal By Innocence
Author: Captain Slick KittyProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Jan 13, 2019 4:20 PM
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While searching for Sarah Water's The Little Stranger, I came across Ordeal by Innocence on Amazon Prime. Seeing that this was based on an Agatha Christie's book, I decided to check this out instead.

The premise is as followed: Heiress Rachel Argyll, unable to have children, adopts 5 children and raises them, along with her husband Leo, played well by Bill Nighy. And with 5 children, a few of them are a bit out of sorts, like the son Jack. Jack, played extremely well by Anthony Doyle, is emotionally sporadic, wild, cruel, a snitch and your basic out of control person, who is aware of his inability to stop or control himself. But he is just one of the "hot" messes in this family, as with most families, there are plenty of secrets running well, secretly, amok.

And between not having an substantiated alibi, and being the wild child with a record, when Rachel is murdered, he is the one charged with the murder. While in prison, Jack is brutally assaulted and dies from his injuries. The family, though sad, carries on.

18 months pass, and a few days before Leo's wedding to his secretary, Dr. Arthur Calargy, played very well by Luke Treadaway, arrives, stating that he was with Jack the night of the murder and that he is Jack's alibi. Unlike the book, this Dr. Calagry has a few secrets of his own. Naturally, his arrival throws the household into a tizzy, all re-living the night of their mother's death. Because they all know if Jack didn't kill Mother, then someone among them did.

Having said more than enough, on to my Kitty Paw Ratings:
One Kitty Paw for Anthony Doyle's performance. Hell, he pissed me off enough, I wanted him dead.
One Kitty Paw for Bill Nighy. He played Leo very well and, having not read the book, I wonder if they wrote his character with him in mind to play it.
One Kitty Paw for Luke Treadaway's performance as the hapless dr.
One Half Kitty Paw for keeping the suspense going, even though I narrowed it down to the killer and another person.
One Half Kitty Paw for the clever use of the staircase set.

But . . .

I have to take away a few Paws.

I have to take away a Paw because they were trying to make Rachel Argyll seem like horrible, overbearing, controlling mother and they really failed. Sure, she was mean at times, but they also showed her being very caring and a good mother. And since Anna Chancellor, the actress who portrayed Rachel has the talent to be cruel and unbending, as she was in Pride and Prejudice as Miss Bingely, they just didn't sell it.

And I have to take away a Half a Kitty Paw for her death scene. It was not done well and it was awkward. Not spoiling the "who", but she was assaulted from behind while standing, falls to the ground, knocking a shoe off, and taking a decanter with her. Then the maid finds her sitting in a chair and when the enters the room, she asks the maid "Well?" like she's perfectly fine and then suddenly there is blood. It was not done well. Too confusing.

So, at 2.5 Kitty Paws, I did enjoy it but there were definitely a few flaws.

csk
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