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Re: Pink Stuff
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #96741 by Big Ox
Jun 4, 2007 5:52am
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I hadn't noticed this, but when I purchased a big 6x12 sheet from Stampeaz, I did notice roller marks from the extrusion process on one side. This is a manufacturing issue related to a height adjustment on the handling machinery and is in no way anything that Webfoot can remedy.

The main issue with the pink stuff is the compression seen along one or two edges. This is probably a side effect in the molding process, not the cutting process, as the rubber would be cut after it has cooled and would, therefore, spring back into place.

But I've countered this "thin edge" problem (which can affect 1/8" to 1/4" of the material) during my mounting process: I use an extra-thick bead of glue along that edge, press the REST of the stamp down until it's perfectly flat, then level off that one edge by pressing until it's at the right height.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #96811 by BrewHiker
Jun 4, 2007 6:47am
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Quote The main issue with the pink stuff is the compression seen along one or two edges. This is probably a side effect in the molding process, not the cutting process, as the rubber would be cut after it has cooled and would, therefore, spring back into place.

But I've countered this "thin edge" problem (which can affect 1/8" to 1/4" of the material) during my mounting process: I use an extra-thick bead of glue along that edge, press the REST of the stamp down until it's perfectly flat, then level off that one edge by pressing until it's at the right height.


I just cut it off as soon as I open the package.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #96811 by BrewHiker
Jun 4, 2007 6:50am
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Quote The main issue with the pink stuff is the compression seen along one or two edges. This is probably a side effect in the molding process, not the cutting process


The issue that I'm talking about is neither...it is caused by the shrink wrap fold pressing into the surface, compressed by the weight of stacked blocks. On most blocks I buy, the indention is as far as one-half inch from the edge. On two adjacent edges, that accounts for as much as 4 3/4 square inches of affected surface (nearly 20 per cent of the block).

I have also noticed the "thin edge" that you mention, but it is not what I am describing here.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #96824 by Big Ox
Jun 4, 2007 6:57am
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How odd... every time I've bought the smaller blocks, the shrinkwrap seams are on the edges. But, as I haven't bought a smaller block in a while (what? did the local stores think nobody uses this stuff??), it's possible they changed their shrinkwrapping machine.

Quote I just cut it off as soon as I open the package. —Kirbert


Waste not, want not!
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #96741 by Big Ox
Jun 4, 2007 11:15am
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Did you think to turn it over and use the other side, or is it on both sides? I haven't noticed a problem with the supply available where I get it. As much as I go through, you would think I had noticed.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #96904 by Ole'Pops
Jun 4, 2007 1:49pm
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Quote Did you think to turn it over and use the other side


It's hard to see your stamp pattern through the Speedy-Stamp logo on the other side, bruh.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #96977 by Big Ox
Jun 4, 2007 8:06pm
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Quote It's hard to see your stamp pattern through the Speedy-Stamp logo on the other side, bruh.


That Speedy-Stamp logo comes right off with a bit of acetone.

Doesn't matter, though; the rounded corners are usually on both sides. Using acetone to correct those would involve a lot of acetone and time and effort. Better to just slice 1/8" off each end and throw it away.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97108 by Kirbert
Jun 4, 2007 8:33pm
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C'MON KIRBERT!!!!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!!! ONE MORE POST!!!!!!

chadams*done cheering now*
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97122 by chadams
Jun 4, 2007 8:42pm
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Wow, he is about to birth another star. Better make it memorable Kirbert.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97124 by Mr Yuk
Jun 4, 2007 8:53pm
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The Blue star club is about to gain another member!

chadams
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97128 by chadams
Jun 4, 2007 9:39pm
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Quote The Blue star club is about to gain another member!

chadams


Isn't "Blue Star" some kind of ointment for jock itch?

MisterSnarky
(can't help it today)
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97122 by chadams
Jun 5, 2007 7:01am
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Quote C'MON KIRBERT!!!!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!!! ONE MORE POST!!!!!!


Moi?
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #96904 by Ole'Pops
Jun 5, 2007 7:09am
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The roller marks are generally on one side... but then I took a real close look and I see a lot of ripples on the other side. I haven't noticed them causing any problems, though.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97215 by BrewHiker
Jun 5, 2007 7:23am
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I use the pink stuff along with other kinds of rubber and while I have noticed the roller marks I haven't had a problem with it either.

The main criticism I have about the pink stuff is that it doesn't ink as well as other softer rubber. Other than that, I do like the density of it.

My two cents,
~Perdu
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97220 by Perdu
Jun 5, 2007 7:39am
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Quote The main criticism I have about the pink stuff is that it doesn't ink as well as other softer rubber.


*jaw drop*

What are you using to ink the stamp... and what method of image transfer are you using (if it's your stamps you have issues with).
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97225 by BrewHiker
Jun 5, 2007 9:35am
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Quote QuoteThe main criticism I have about the pink stuff is that it doesn't ink as well as other softer rubber.


*jaw drop*

What are you using to ink the stamp... and what method of image transfer are you using (if it's your stamps you have issues with).


I have tried both dyes and pigment stamp pads, Marvy and Crayola markers all of them tend to bead, but I'm persistent and over ink them. I have used a gentle press, a more firm press, a rocking press and upside-down paper on stamp rub.

There are others who have mentioned this as well, so I know I'm not the only one with this issue.

However, I continue to use the pink stuff because the consistency lends itself to better detail with my remedial carving skills. Although, I don't use it exclusively.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97254 by Perdu
Jun 5, 2007 9:48am
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How are you getting your images-to-be-carved onto the rubber?
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97257 by BrewHiker
Jun 5, 2007 10:22am
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I draw a picture in pencil then turn it over on the pink rubber and then...well... rub. The graphite appears on the rubber and I carve the graphite parts away, using either the speedball or steadler carving tools #1-V for most (if not all) of it.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97274 by Perdu
Jun 5, 2007 10:59am
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*scratching head*

I don't get it. So I looked through the boards, and saw only only instance of the "pink stuff" (searched with quotes) being tough to ink, other than yours. Not surprisingly, I was the one to try to solve the issue.

I've carved 60+ stamps, all in pink, and I've only had one stamp not hold ink well, and that's because of the paper, the printer and a little too much heat (or for too long... can't remember which).

Are you huffing on your stamps after inking? You need only do this if it took you a LONG time to color the stamp. Say, more than a couple of minutes.... and even then, a couple of light huffs will do the trick.

Ink from inkpads does not need huffing (indeed, inkpad ink is the ONLY thing that can get a decent coating on PZKut), especially pigment inks.

Most of the time, ink from Marvy markers does not need huffing, either. If you're using WASHABLE Crayola markers, they can puddle very easily on anything.
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97108 by Kirbert
Jun 5, 2007 11:39am
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That logo comes right off with a bit of Windex!
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97288 by BrewHiker
Jun 5, 2007 11:44am
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Quote inkpad ink is the ONLY thing that can get a decent coating on PZKut


PZKut is a medium I have not yet tried, only because I have not run across it. I like to buy what I can see (Hobby Lobby, Michaels, etc.) and I've bought from MisterArt.com. I tried to buy from Stampeze this morning to try the PZCut, but I don't mess with PayPal. Perhaps I'll look around and find it somewhere else.

I have tried MasterCarve White (thick and regular).

I have tried Speedball "Pink Stuff" and thicker beige. The beige is Master Carve wanna-be, in my opinion, but much crumblier. The speedball pink is what I have been referring to in this thread.

I don't huff and maybe that's my problem...?

But the rub might be that we are talking about different things, if you are referring to PZKut and I'm not...?
Re: Pink Stuff
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Reply to: #97312 by Perdu
Jun 5, 2007 12:15pm
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The rub... *chuckle*

The pink stuff is the ONLY stuff in my book... um... boxes.

Maybe the humidity in KCMO is off the charts?? (never been, so I don't know)

Huffing too much is what causes puddling for me. (my gosh, what does that sound like...??)

Maybe it was a bad batch... how long has this been happening to you?
"huffing?"
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Reply to: #97288 by BrewHiker
Jun 5, 2007 12:24pm
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StarSAELS wrote:
Quote *scratching head*

I don't get it. So I looked through the boards, and saw only only instance of the "pink stuff" (searched with quotes) being tough to ink, other than yours. Not surprisingly, I was the one to try to solve the issue.

I've carved 60+ stamps, all in pink, and I've only had one stamp not hold ink well, and that's because of the paper, the printer and a little too much heat (or for too long... can't remember which).

Are you huffing on your stamps after inking? You need only do this if it took you a LONG time to color the stamp. Say, more than a couple of minutes.... and even then, a couple of light huffs will do the trick.

Ink from inkpads does not need huffing (indeed, inkpad ink is the ONLY thing that can get a decent coating on PZKut), especially pigment inks.

Most of the time, ink from Marvy markers does not need huffing, either. If you're using WASHABLE Crayola markers, they can puddle very easily on anything.


I only know one context for the term "huffing" and it's not related to creating works of art. It's how they describe kids sniffing paint and glue, etc to get high.

What in the sam hill are you doing where "huffing" is something that you do to a hand-carved stamp after inking?

Dude, I'm all like..."HUH???"

MisterSnarky
Re: "huffing?"
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Reply to: #97329 by MisterSnarky
Jun 5, 2007 12:32pm
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I didn't come up with the term as we use it in letterboxing, but it's basically the same thing you do to fog up a window on a cold day.

It's the sound it makes when you do it...
Re: "huffing?"
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Reply to: #97329 by MisterSnarky
Jun 5, 2007 12:34pm
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Quote What in the sam hill are you doing where "huffing" is something that you do to a hand-carved stamp after inking


I had to laugh at this... I know what huffing is and I could show you all day long, but to explain it is another story.

Is "huffing" a Georgia word??
Re: "huffing?"
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Reply to: #97329 by MisterSnarky
Jun 5, 2007 12:35pm
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huff /hʌf/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[huhf] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a mood of sulking anger; a fit of resentment: Just because you disagree, don't walk off in a huff.
–verb (used with object) 2. to give offense to; make angry.
3. to treat with arrogance or contempt; bluster at; hector or bully.
4. Checkers. to remove (a piece) from the board as a penalty for failing to make a compulsory capture.
5. Slang. to inhale the vapors of in order to become intoxicated: to huff glue.
–verb (used without object) 6. to take offense; speak indignantly.
7. to puff or blow; breathe heavily.
8. to swell with pride or arrogance; swagger or bluster.
Re: "huffing?"
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Reply to: #97334 by drgdlg
Jun 5, 2007 12:39pm
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How 'bout next time you come down to Birmingham you can show me how to huff, then?

I can tell my friends "this weekend I am going to experiment with huffing with someone I met on the internet."

It would be worth it just to make that announcement.

MisterSnarky
Re: "huffing?"
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Reply to: #97335 by Tdyans
Jun 5, 2007 12:42pm
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That definition makes me feel silly.

I just may treat my next hand-carved stamp with arrogance or contempt in a mood of sulking or anger.

MisterSnarky

(seriously though, thanks for looking that up)
Re: "huffing?"
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Reply to: #97334 by drgdlg
Jun 5, 2007 12:42pm
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I added huffing to the glossary. Not sure it's a very good definition, but at least it's an official letterboxing word, now!

I don't recommend that people sniff glue and such stuff, though. But wow, that rubber cement--I enjoyed using that a lot as a kid. =)

-- Ryan
Re: "huffing?"
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Reply to: #97336 by MisterSnarky
Jun 5, 2007 12:44pm
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Huff...and PufF....and BLOW your house down!