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Re: who cares about baseball when HOCKEY is on??
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Reply to: #74490 by BigRedOne
Feb 25, 2007 8:28am
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Baseball players stand around hitting and throwing balls running a few bases. It is basically a non contact sport 95 % of the time. you spend more time watching players doing nothing but stand there chewing tobacco then actually doing something physical. they make ridiculous amounts of money for what???? cause they can throw and hit a ball?????? The yankees can basically buy them selves a championship every twop years or so!!! how is that fair. one team having tons of moneywhile some other teams never have a chance when you stack all the talent on a few teams! Hockey players are down to earth people who make resonable money who put there bodies on the line day in and day out. Doing amazing moves at a speed faster that the other major sports!!! And YES a slapshot goes faster than the fastest of fast balls! and goalies stand there and block them! all while balancing on blades!!! To me it is a slap in the face how little coverage hockey is given in major media outlets! you are lucky to find a half page section covering the NHL as it approaches playoffs in the usa today while golf, auto racing , college basketball , NBA and baseballs preseason is all over the front cover. Lord Stanleys cup is by far the most revered trophy in sports with the most history.

DO NOT even get me started on the hoodlums that play basketball and football who also make ridiculous money and who are supposed to be role models for kids while there are people being arrested every week for guns or violence or drugs. I challenge people to tell me a hockey player who has been arrested. But it is these people who are all over the tv radio magazines and papers.

Hockey players get the shaft. They deserve far more respect and attention then they are given. cause as a wole they are the far better example the way athletes should be.


*preparing for the attacks*
chadams
Re: who cares about baseball when HOCKEY is on??
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Reply to: #74493 by chadams
Feb 25, 2007 8:34am
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The last NHL player that I can even think of getting arrested was...heck it was the late 80's early 90's...and he wasn't even that good...ok he was an enforcer, that's about it. He played for the mighty RedWings and was busted bringing in cocaine from Windsor ON...how does the song go..."Here's Your Sign"...BR1
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Reply to: #74493 by chadams
Feb 25, 2007 8:44am
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Reply to: #74502 by Alyson Wonderland
Feb 25, 2007 8:50am
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Now be nice Cam...before I unleash the cootie infested cubs upon you...Oh wait you are the harbinger of cooties, I forgot...J/K Cam...BR1
And do not bad mouth Hockey...
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Reply to: #74504 by BigRedOne
Feb 25, 2007 9:03am
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LOL i wasnt badmouthing... i presented the facts.... i erased the badmouthing before i clicked "submit" LOL

*sticking tongue out* sides... HE started it

(badmouthing baseball) LOL

and fyi, i think tabacco useage within pro baseball (during games at least) is very rare these days. dont have the stats to back that up, but i'm sure the stereotype that was presented is way outdated. not saying they dont "spit" or "scratch" *ewww* but at least there's generally no blood loss at a baseball game. ;-D
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Reply to: #74508 by Alyson Wonderland
Feb 25, 2007 9:10am
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I believe that tobacco use during baseball games was banned by the league last year...but don't quote me...I am in Iraq and know nothing besides how to shoot, scoot, move and communicate...so nananana...luv ya mean it...BR1
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Reply to: #74493 by chadams
Feb 25, 2007 9:28am
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Quote To me it is a slap in the face how little coverage hockey is given in major media outlets! you are lucky to find a half page section covering the NHL as it approaches playoffs in the usa today while golf, auto racing , college basketball , NBA and baseballs preseason is all over the front cover.


Don't get me wrong, chadams...Once I actually SAW a live hockey game, I was hooked, but I'll always have a special place in my heart for those backyard baseball games we used to play when I was a kid. Frankly, I think the coverage thing is just because a kid can't PLAY hockey all over the country for free. Remember, as a NY kid, you had at least 2 months for SURE in which you can play hockey outside on a frozen pond or box that your parents made in the yard. For folks below the Mason-Dixon line and west of Ohio, the temp isn't conducive to that. If you want to play hockey in, say Dallas (where the Stars have a pretty strong following now), you have to pay to go to a rink.

There's also something to be said for living conditions, too. The inner cities are more likely to have access to free hoops, so the kids play that more and the folks will support that more in the schools as one of the few teams a kid can join. The suburbs have more access to free baseball diamonds and soccer fields in the premapped out parks, so parents spend more time going to soccer and baseball games.The rural areas always have room for a football field and one of the few teams a kid CAN join in the country is a football team (since the whole town comes out to watch them for entertainment). So, you grow up watching and supporting a certain sport and that's basically what you want to see when you get older and become a ticket purchaser.

And then there's the high school factor. The most destitute of schools may not have any other team at ALL but a football or basketball team (depending on access to a field) and, of course, cheerleaders. They all have always captured the minds of young people as the pinnacle of coolness in athletics because of that...people cheer and scream for you and you become a hero/heroine. Just walking around on Friday with your football jersey on is enough to make a girl swoon, even if the soccer team has won the championship 12 years running. For inner cities where a field isn't available, it's being a basketball star (since EVERY school has a gym). Cheerleading is supposed to be the female equivalent because every girl at some point in her life wants to be cool and that's the fastest way to do it (don't even get me started on how wrong this is!). All other sports that you enjoy as a kid (even for girls) just seem die a quiet death by peer pressure.
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Reply to: #74516 by Sprite and Highlander
Feb 25, 2007 9:35am
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The Major Leaguers are somewhat stuck on themselves with the million dollar paychecks. I had the opportunity to worl for a Double A team of the Florida Marlins a few years ago. The minor leaguers are down to earth and take time for the fans. Just my opinion.

Ray
Happydaze
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Reply to: #74502 by Alyson Wonderland
Feb 25, 2007 6:17pm
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hey I just got home from work so I haven't been able to respond to the comments.

3ms I understand that there are always some bad people in any sport. all but one of the links you gave were for smaller minor leagues, college or youth hokey where I am sure there is a much greater occurence of riff raff no matter what the sport. The only one that was from the NHL was about Brendan Shanahan getting hurt. I will say very clearly up front. Hockey is a very violent sport where people get injured very badly and fighting IS and SHOULD be part of the sport. To hold that against hockey players would be like saying Boxers are not capable of being good role models. it is not that the people are bad the sport itself is rough and tumble. There are hits in hockey that I think should be illegal like hits to the head. What I am talking about in my last posts is the stuff that happens outside the field/court/arena in their personal lives. I am not trying to blindly say all hockey players are angels. I am just saying I think there is a much higher concentration of questionable charectors in other sports and that it is these same sports that pay way too high of salaries and are turned into role models. Like star quarter back michael vick trying to board a plane with a false bottom water bottle containing pot. When you are in his position paid what he is paid I think it is fair to hold him to a "higher" (he he sorry couldn't resist ) standard and expect more out of him than that. and he is just one example.


chadams
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Reply to: #74516 by Sprite and Highlander
Feb 25, 2007 8:02pm
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Quote you grow up watching and supporting a certain sport and that's basically what you want to see when you get older and become a ticket purchaser.


I was born and raised and still live in CT. I never watched hockey as a kid because my mother didn't like hockey and my father didn't like sports. I was introduced to the game when I was in my early twenties. I went to see the losing home team, the Hartford Whalers. I was hooked. No penatly was called, though. (sorry, I had to say it) I started to play ice hockey when I was 25 in a co-ed league. I would also go to the "stick time" at the old UConn ice rink. It was not an indoor facility then. It only costed $5 to play. I had to quit my co-ed league when playoffs came around, they don't recommend playing when you're pregnant (too many "men" on the ice). My daughter was in the instructional league starting at the age of 4 and played for a few years but didn't really have the drive to play the game. She loved to skate, and was, and still is, very good at skating. Her idea of a good game was based on how many times she got to jump over the blue line when other kids were playing to win. We pulled her out. My hockey "career" continued sporadicallly with dek, roller and ice. I don't currently play, but I still love to watch. My daughter will still play on occasion, mostly when her father makes her fill in for a women's dek team that he coaches. I hope to return to it someday. I just don't have the time right now. :(

FG
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Reply to: #74608 by chadams
Feb 25, 2007 9:28pm
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I believe that this comes back to what Sprite and Highlander said about accessability of area's to participate in sports...If riff raff play a sport, they don't change their lives...they just have more $$$ to spend on vices...BR1
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Reply to: #74608 by chadams
Feb 25, 2007 9:30pm
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Also most of the players in the NHL are from the international community where the vices of the states and the bad parenting is mostly nonexistent...and the players are held to a higher standard...BR1
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Reply to: #74493 by chadams
Feb 27, 2007 7:01pm
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Hey, the Hurricanes won the Stanley Cup...but this is North Carolina--we do College Basketball...Long standing traditions and the players get paid in college credits. If they are hoodlums to start with, Roy isn't going to recruit them. I will admit that the Dook/Carolina game has been known to draw blood. I think hockey is a regional thing--and since we don't have ice covered ponds--we don't get it. The hockey team came with the "immigrants" from up north. 8->

Chickadee
[North Carolinian by birth, Tarheel by the Grace of God (actually, by the grace of working my hiney off in high school)]