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Re: Visit to California
Board: State: California
Reply to: #603312 by Dizzy
May 1, 2011 12:12am
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You laugh, but when I was growing up in San Diego County, we thought anything north of LA was northern. No joke.

Well, yes, that's the mentality I was kind of making fun of. Geography lessons, anyone?
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Reply to: #603335 by artTrekker
May 1, 2011 6:25am
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Geography lessons, anyone?

It wasn't geography, it was the amount of time. It was because everything was so close that we didn't need to go any further than LA. Back when I lived in Cali, everything was so close that I could do just about anything I wanted within 20 minutes of my home, and I didn't live in town... I lived up the mountain! Driving to LA (almost 2 hours) was an overnighter, for sure. It's not that I didn't make it farther north... my grandparents lived in Lompoc and we went there at least once a year, but that was a week-long trip. We also went all the way up to Crater Lake in Oregon when I was 11 or 12, but I remember being on that trip and thinking to myself that it took longer to get there than it did to get to Missouri. The problem was, that when you're a kid, you're thinking of how long it takes to get there, not how much you've seen. If I still lived in Cali, I doubt I'd still consider northern Cali to be anything beyond LA. I'd be more interested in seeing the state again. No, it had absolutely nothing to do with geography, it had to do with age.

These days, it's nothing for me to drive to Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, etc. on a day trip. These days I go down to Silver Dollar City (45 minutes to an hour) while daughter is in school and I'm back home before the bus gets back.
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603365 by Dizzy
May 1, 2011 11:53am
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Back when I lived in Cali, everything was so close that I could do just about anything I wanted within 20 minutes of my home,

Only those from WAY south in the state would dare to call it "Cali".

~~Doublesaj~~
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603426 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
May 1, 2011 11:59am
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Only those from WAY south in the state would dare to call it "Cali".

Yeah, throw in a "San Fran" and they'll revoke her former citizenship completely!
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603429 by wassamatta u
May 1, 2011 1:00pm
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Californian have their own dialects ,,, from amonds(central valley twang) to san rancisco( bay area twang). if you listen to the locals long enough, some never use the freeway numbers(its the nimitz not 880 or the harbor not the 110) ,there is only one Cal and eight other UC campuses, to never calling cities Dago and Frisco, its no different than listening to a bostonian say "paak the caah" I credit Herb Caen with creating humor around much of our local dialects,, we had a great letter box outing in sackatomatos yesterday, thanks herb
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603445 by fleetwood7
May 1, 2011 2:30pm
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some never use the freeway numbers(its the nimitz not 880 or the harbor not the 110)

Alternatively in SoCal you would take the 5 to Sacramento, whereas in NoCal you take I-5, or simply, 5 to LA. The City means San Francisco; these being the only proper references to the city where the baseball Giants play. If you live north of Redding, you consider yourself to live in southern Oregon... except you still need to pay those pesky California taxes. Lastly those mountains on the eastern side of the state are the Sierra, without an "s" at the end. The word is already plural.

Oh, and Cali was a girl I went to high school with.

Old Blue
Re: Visit to California
Board: State: California
Reply to: #603429 by wassamatta u
May 1, 2011 2:37pm
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Only those from WAY south in the state would dare to call it "Cali".

Yeah, throw in a "San Fran" and they'll revoke her former citizenship completely!

Not in San Diego they won't! As for the people in San Fran, they can't revoke me! Ha!

Distance from my old house to Tijuana: apx 50 miles
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603429 by wassamatta u
May 1, 2011 2:41pm
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Yeah, throw in a "San Fran" and they'll revoke her former citizenship completely!

That one doesn't make me cringe nearly as much as the "F" word! (Fri$c@)
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Reply to: #603460 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
May 1, 2011 2:47pm
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Alternatively in SoCal you would take the 5 to Sacramento, whereas in NoCal you take I-5, or simply, 5 to LA. The City means San Francisco; these being the only proper references to the city where the baseball Giants play.

My "Zax and Friends" series we recently planted along I-5 (no "the" :-) pays tribute to some of those differences!
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603460 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
May 1, 2011 2:53pm
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Alternatively in SoCal you would take the 5 to Sacramento

First of all, it was just 5 (no "the"). Second of all, I'd never take 5 to Sacramento... I would have taken a plane! :P
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603460 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
May 1, 2011 3:53pm
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Alternatively in SoCal you would take the 5 to Sacramento, whereas in NoCal you take I-5, or simply, 5 to LA.

Ah yes, in Orange County we'd take "the" 405, but in San Mateo County we wouldn't take "the" 280.
Re: Visit to California
Board: State: California
Reply to: #603335 by artTrekker
May 1, 2011 4:04pm
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Geography lessons, anyone?

It's all relative. I know folks in Humbolt County who scoff at the idea of the SF Bay Area being in "Northern California". They consider it "Central", while most in the Bay Area would consider "Central California" to be SLO area. If we want to look at the state vertically, then we've got the "Central Valley" that goes from, what? Redding to Bakersfield (ish)? It's all relative.
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603481 by Gremlands
May 1, 2011 4:38pm
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It's all relative.

I think that's true of any state. Here in the Springfield area, we scoff at people in Lebanon saying they live in SW MO, but they say it nonetheless.
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603481 by Gremlands
May 1, 2011 6:05pm
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Geography lessons, anyone?

I think one of the most interesting bits of geography is California's Lost Coast. Its the coastal area of Humboldt County south of Ferndale (a really "big" city). There are no major roads in the area and only a few very small towns. Until about 10 years ago, I thought the Lost Coast was a mythical land created by a micro brewery.

http://www.openroad.tv/index.php?categoryid=16&p25_id=13

Old Blue
Re: Visit to California
Board: State: California
Reply to: #603460 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
May 5, 2011 1:51pm
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those mountains on the eastern side of the state are the Sierra, without an "s" at the end

Oh thank you thank you for posting this. "Sierra" already means mountains (plural), so you can pluralize Sierra when you're speaking of multiple "Sierras": the Sierra Nevada, the Sierra Madre, etc. The other one that drives me crazy is "Canadian Geese" for Canada Geese. Don't know why they're not Canadian, but they're not.
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603481 by Gremlands
May 5, 2011 1:53pm
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"Central Valley" that goes from, what? Redding to Bakersfield (ish)?

Well, I think the Central Valley is central between side borders--there are more dimensions than just North and South.
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604356 by artTrekker
May 5, 2011 1:55pm
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one that drives me crazy is "Canadian Geese" for Canada Geese. Don't know why they're not Canadian, but they're not.

I did not know that. I've always called them Canadian Geese because I really never saw them till I moved here and that's what people call them here. Thanks for the education!
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604357 by artTrekker
May 5, 2011 1:56pm
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Well, I think the Central Valley is central between side borders--there are more dimensions than just North and South.

Yes, that was my point. Guess I didn't communicate it clearly...
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604358 by Dizzy
May 5, 2011 2:02pm
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Or maybe I'm just being too picky:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Goose

Branta canadensis: the "canadensis" means "from Canada" so maybe Canadian is not so incorrect after all. Looks like the ornithologists (the real experts) always use "Canada".
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604360 by artTrekker
May 5, 2011 2:17pm
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.......and canada is pronounced can yah dah in southern california so if see them in a park in LA should i call them canyahdah geese.?
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604363 by fleetwood7
May 5, 2011 2:21pm
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should i call them canyahdah geese.?

Perhaps... but people might look at you funny and try to protect the geese.

Fluffy Cow- who prefers not to dah the geese.
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604363 by fleetwood7
May 5, 2011 2:24pm
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.......and canada is pronounced can yah dah in southern california

Maybe northern southern California. I lived in San Diego County for 19 years and have never once heard anyone say "can-yah-dah."
Re: Visit to California
Board: State: California
Reply to: #604363 by fleetwood7
May 5, 2011 3:56pm
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A nearby northern California Junior College, is Canada (pronounced Canyahdah) College, but it has the ~ over the n thereby making it Spanish, definitely not Canadian.

SJ Honey Bunny
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604383 by Woman to Blame
May 5, 2011 5:01pm
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A nearby northern California Junior College, is Canada (pronounced Canyahdah) College, but it has the ~ over the n

I was thinking the same thing about the town of La Canada Flintridge in Southern CA. Maybe it's that area where the pronunciation occurs?
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604394 by Monkeys!
May 5, 2011 5:34pm
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Well that's a whole different ball of wax. La Cañada is totally different than saying "Canada" with that pronunciation. Cañada means canyon, if I recall correctly. I still wouldn't call the country of Canada "canyahdah." Do they do that in La Cañada Flintridge? That's as weird as some of the town names we have in Missouri... Nevada (pronounced Nevaydah), Lebanon (Lebahnun), Versailles (Versales), Laquey (Lakeway), and Bois D'Arc (you're gonna love this one... Bo Dark).
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604398 by Dizzy
May 5, 2011 6:51pm
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Cañada means canyon, if I recall correctly

I just looked it up in my trusty Spanish/English dictionary and canyon is cañon with ' over the o. I could not find cañada.
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #603165 by Batty Girl
May 5, 2011 6:55pm
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Where else will you be besides Visalia?
Re: Visit to California
Board: State: California
Reply to: #604412 by Ursus and Me
May 5, 2011 7:22pm
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Google translated cañada as glen or ravine, so similar to anyon but a little different, too.
And how are you guys accessing that enyay (that's what the n with the tilde is called but
probably not even close to how it's spelled; it's actually a separate letter in the Spanish alphabet).
I haven't been able to create special characters on my PC.

Dizzy, those place name pronunciations are hilarious...the one that comes closest to pronunciation
from its country of origin is Bo Dark (Bois D'Arc)--should be bwah dark. Means arch of wood?
We have street names named after obliterated Indian tribes, with Nez Perce Street nearby.
In Wyoming (where there's a mountain of that name in the Tetons--another pet peeve! It's Grand
Teton Nat'l Park or "the Tetons", not "the Grand Tetons"--there's only one Grand) they say "nay
persay", here we have to say "nez pierce" or be an outcast.
Re: Visit to California
Board: State: California
Reply to: #604420 by artTrekker
May 5, 2011 7:39pm
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And how are you guys accessing that enyay

Hold down the ALT key while typing 164 on your numpad. Won't work on Macs and won't work on laptops that don't have a numpad. Alternatively, you can go to Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map then find the appropriate symbol, click Select, Copy, then paste it into your message. Easier to just type ALT 164 if you remember the Alt code.
Re: Visit to California
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Reply to: #604420 by artTrekker
May 5, 2011 7:46pm
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n with the tilde

if you use firefox, click on edit, then special characters.... you can pick from lot of fun things like ñ.