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Positive vs. Negative Carving?
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Reply to: #313163 by GreatBigSabres
Dec 6, 2008 9:14am
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I've carved under 20 stamps, 15 of which were negative and once I starting carving positive a whole new world opened up with endless possibilities.

Ths image you posted is stunning! For someone with no artistic talent or training, can you please explain negative vs. positive carving?

Thanks!!
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Reply to: #320006 by Road Junkies
Dec 6, 2008 12:05pm
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For someone with no artistic talent or training, can you please explain negative vs. positive carving?

I didn't see any answer to your question so here goes.

If you have an image transferred to the carving medium. Let say it is a circle. If you were to carve the line of the circle it would make a negative image. Everything other than the line would be dark and the line would be the color of the paper you are stamping on.

If you carve everything other than the line , removing all the material inside the circle and outside of the circle it would make a positive image of the circle on the paper when you stamped it.

Most new boxers start with negative images as they are less labor intensive and easier. Once you start carving positive images then you can do more complex images.

Don
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Reply to: #320099 by Don and Gwen
Dec 6, 2008 5:35pm
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Thanks! I sort of thought that might be the difference but wasn't at all sure.
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Reply to: #320099 by Don and Gwen
Dec 6, 2008 6:31pm
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The easiest way to think about positive vs. negative space is: That which will NOT be inked when the stamp is inked is negative space. Aka, the part the stamp maker carves away is negative space.

I'd just like to say, that even my own carving with the simplest of images/earlier efforts just seem to "pop" more and IMHO are better stamps when more, rather than less negative space is used. When I was starting out I looked for very binary images to use, meaning really easy to see what I'd carve and what would be left. This is not hard really, it just means carving away more. Negative space can be very interesting once you can see its effects - then work from there for many possible combinations.

For the best, well-known example of negative space that most you have no doubt seen, take a look at the FedEx log

Can you spot what I mean re: the use of negative space? Most never notice it (except perhaps subconsciously) - making it a simple but effective logo.

pre
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Reply to: #320200 by preboxed
Dec 6, 2008 6:45pm
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Thanks so much Pre, for clarifying this question. Yeah, right! I have been carving for quite some time now, and I still don't know the difference, even with your so enlightening explanation. It boggles my mind each time I hear an explanation. I think I am carving more postitive, but when asked I go blank. Even with the explanation of holding an old fashioned negative of a picture in my hand and looking at it, I get confused. Soooo, I just keep on with the way I am doing it, postitive/negative, it still gets done. ha. Lets just say, there is lots more white when printed with a black ink pad, than when I started. And this is just me! And I like to color!!!! Yes!!
OD
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Reply to: #320200 by preboxed
Dec 7, 2008 5:22am
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Wow, I never noticed the arrow in the FedEx logo before!!! I even pointed it out to my kids! I can't believe I never noticed it! I'm blown away.

KV
(again, wow!)
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Reply to: #320284 by Sheep Thrills
Dec 7, 2008 7:47am
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Wow, I never noticed the arrow in the FedEx logo before!!!

LOL KV--you are not the only one! I looked at the logo, then said "big deal" then read your message and said "what arrow?" Went back and there it was!!! Too cool! DOH! TErrio--logos are lost on me!
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Reply to: #320284 by Sheep Thrills
Dec 7, 2008 8:26am
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OM, I had to look at that logo about four times, turning my head this way and that, in the process, before I saw that arrow. Very nice!! Thanks for pointing this out Vogt Family.

And cool example, Pre. So much to still learn, always. Sometimes its even to know when to shut up, lol. Do you remember the song, Pre, I talk too Much? I'll worry you to death? Forgive me, my mouth! You were teaching us something and it went totally over my head. [hanging head in shame].

Now, will hear from those who don't like it when someone writes to two people in the same message. :~[ You see, I know better, but the lazy boxer in me, chooses to ignor. Sorry.

On an up note, the negative side of me wants to choose to smile, for "Its a beautiful day in the neighborhood". :~]
OD
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Reply to: #320213 by Okie Dog
Dec 7, 2008 1:31pm
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Here is an example of a simple carving that I think is just so funny. Even a beginner can make me LMAO.
http://www.atlasquest.com/images/gallery/06/42/60342lg.jpg

I don't remember where I found this, so pardon me if it is yours. I'd like to hear from you.