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Posting pics of images that are not yours
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Mar 6, 2019 4:30am
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Not sure where to ask this question so here goes. I’m a member of several FB Letterboxing groups and there seems to be recent spate of people posting images of stamps they have found. Didn’t this really used to be discouraged?
Because I don’t know the trail names of the posters it’s hard to figure out if they are newbies.
So what is the current feeling about this trend?
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Reply to: #972426 by Mizscarlet
Mar 6, 2019 5:17am
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My feeling is this: Please do not post stamp images of boxes you have found.
I don't want to see what I'm going to find, if and when I find the box. It ruins the surprise.
In addition, I don't want people finding my own boxes and sharing the images because I believe seeing the stamp is part of the reward for finding the box. Don't provide the payoff until they've done the work.

Feel free to share my opinion.
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Reply to: #972426 by Mizscarlet
Mar 6, 2019 5:20am
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My feelings are I'm glad I'm not a member of any of those groups. I would hate that. It's not fun to go out and know what the end result looks like. And I don't want to see other stamps when I'm not boxing, unless they're using it to discuss technique, like gouge vs fork, or whatever.
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Reply to: #972426 by Mizscarlet
Mar 6, 2019 6:42am
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Not sure where to ask this question so here goes. I’m a member of several FB Letterboxing groups and there seems to be recent spate of people posting images of stamps they have found. Didn’t this really used to be discouraged?
Because I don’t know the trail names of the posters it’s hard to figure out if they are newbies.
So what is the current feeling about this trend?

That it's disrespectful. That it's not stealthy. It's a spoiler and it sucks, ruins the surprise like finding your Christmas presents early. Thanks, Santa, for the bad hide.
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Reply to: #972426 by Mizscarlet
Mar 6, 2019 9:50am
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Agree, but there isn't anything stopping them.
I see the FB stuff, but I mostly don't want my name out there in FB land so I don't comment.

I wonder, could/would whoever started the various boxing groups put it in the rules of nice conduct (avoiding "good" since you can't force them) re. boxing "Please do not post photos of stamp images".
If a group moderator wanted to make a stronger statement
Do Not post photos of letterbox images unless you own the image

Violating this rule may cause you to be suspended from the group for one week.
Multiple violations, you will be dropped from the group.
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Reply to: #972434 by Grrly Girl
Mar 6, 2019 10:55am
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"Please do not post photos of stamp images".

eXception might be if the stamp is reported MIA and someone that previously snapped its profile thinks they're being helpful. Downside is that others will think the one posting it's photogenic profile is possibly the same one responsible for it being MIA.

Suppose the thinking by the kind-hearted (perpetrator) is that it's such a special stamp that by posting its portrait will encourage more to find it. Even if it's a newbie owner posting a photo it would more likely accomplish the opposite with fewer searches.
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Reply to: #972426 by Mizscarlet
Mar 6, 2019 11:01am
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Just today I saw on FB that a boxer had posted pictures of their own carves and I don't see anything wrong with that if that is what they want to do. People had posted comments that it was a spoiler, but still it's their stamp.
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Reply to: #972436 by airstream dreams
Mar 6, 2019 11:22am
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I’ve seen as well & it seems to be a mistake made by newer boxers. They don’t realize it’s poor etiquette. I didn’t know when I first started, but then I read threads such as this one. With time you learn.
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Reply to: #972435 by Frenchie
Mar 7, 2019 5:09am
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eXception might be if the stamp is reported MIA and someone that previously snapped its profile thinks they're being helpful.

If someone takes a photo of the image when they find it, that's their business.
Sharing the image is still not acceptable, regardless of the belief that someone else may need help. I don't quite understand your logic here. Are you saying it will be easier for me to find a possibly missing letterboxing if I know what the stamp looks like? No, that can't be it ~ I talked myself out of that interpretation.

Regardless of your meaning, images aren't for sharing on social media, and having a kind heart or good intentions doesn't excuse it. Once shared, it's out there for anyone to see, and is thus anti-stealth, anti-surprise, and anti-respectful of the common values within the boxing community.

Can you tell this practice really bothers me?
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Reply to: #972426 by Mizscarlet
Mar 7, 2019 5:20am
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I've never seen these groups on fb but that's just me and fb.

I agree that it probably shouldn't be done but at the same time and while lacking amplifying information I don't have a problem with it IF the name of the box is not known AND IF the location of the box is not known AND IF the location of the group taking the photo is not known.

If they're just taking a photo of the "treasure" and not providing amplifying information I just don't see the problem. As a matter of fact I might find it exciting if one or two of my better carves (I think that's all I have) were among the group.

But if they're providing location, box name, carver/planter info etc., than that's a problem and it should be discouraged.

Me personally I could never remember the image if I saw it on fb and a year later found the box that image is part of.
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Reply to: #972426 by Mizscarlet
Mar 10, 2019 12:31pm
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Sadly, people have always joined AQ and started letterboxing without bothering to make themselves aware of ANY of the traditions and etiquettes of our hobby. They never even do the simplest thing like clicking on the glossary, or go around the site and look at preferences, or the tutorials. This lack of effort has always blown my mind. Then they post and ask questions that could have been easily answered had they bothered to explore the site.

I think now that in addition to that, people find the letterboxing groups on facebook and join with no knowledge whatsoever.

If memory serves I have seen people on facebook who join a letterboxing group and are not even aware that AQ exists.

Hopefully those of us who have the knowledge can continue to make these new people aware of things they should know. But I think the existence of facebook makes it harder since there are more new people who know pretty much nothing.

I don't even care for people sharing their own images though I realize they have the right to do it. I wish they didn't feel the need.
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Reply to: #972535 by MissMoon
Mar 11, 2019 1:11am
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...people find the letterboxing groups on facebook and join with no knowledge whatsoever.

That's similar to my age-old complaint about people reading about "hybrid" geocaches on geocaching.com. People find a geocache with a store-bought stamp of a tree frog and a cheap green ink pad inside (among a pile of moldy McToys) and a log book on which every page has the stamp image of -- wait for it -- a green tree frog. Then they know all about letterboxing, even though they admit they really don't see the appeal.
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Reply to: #972551 by Kirbert
Mar 11, 2019 6:24am
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I have never seen the letterbox hybrid's stamp stamped in it's own logbook. Admittedly, I haven't traveled as much as you have. Around here some geocachers have even had custom-made personal stamps, which they even use to stamp non-hybrid geocache logs.
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Reply to: #972551 by Kirbert
Mar 11, 2019 7:44am
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People find a geocache with a store-bought stamp of a tree frog and a cheap green ink pad inside (among a pile of moldy McToys) and a log book on which every page has the stamp image of -- wait for it -- a green tree frog.

Yep-a common problem with my hybrids even though I don't leave an inkpad in the box and I leave instructions on how things are done. I always wait a month or two before listing my hybrids as geocaches so the logbook can fill up with letterboxers' images first and show newbie geocachers how it's done.
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Reply to: #972551 by Kirbert
Mar 16, 2019 12:18pm
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I like the good ole days when lurking awhile was an expectation, and those who asked basic newbie questions were immediately & snarkily referred to the rtfm file.
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Reply to: #972758 by Wry Me
Mar 16, 2019 12:38pm
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[...] and those who asked basic newbie questions were immediately & snarkily referred to the rtfm file.

And slapped down like Wry Me's snark.
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Reply to: #972760 by Snark
Mar 16, 2019 3:55pm
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And slapped down like Wry Me's snark.

Nah. I like the newbs.

It's similar to the way folks here post links to tutorials and glossaries, only they really did seem to get irritated. (Man, that was 20+ years ago!) It was a bit of an expectation, really, to read over the basics and to hang for awhile to get a feel for the community norms. Users usually did not like answering the same "starter" questions over and over again, then and now apparently, hence the the FAQ, glossaries, tutorials, etc. which replaced the rtfm files.

It was actually an etiquette thing to feel out the community norms, so I learned to lurk early on. I didn't post on here for over two years. And I was nervous.

I was fortunate enough to be mentored by some pretty awesome boxers long before I approached the wider community.

God. Dial-ups, BBS's, non-graphical interfaces, ftp, rtfm files, that awesome sound your modem made getting connected, getting kicked off when the phone had in incoming call, black & white monitors, being ecstatic when you watch someone type a message to you letter-by-letter in real-time! Does this sound like a "Grandma, tell us about the dinosaurs!" post? Please shoot me.
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Reply to: #972765 by Wry Me
Mar 16, 2019 5:39pm
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Nah. I like the newbs.

That is why I answered with snarky sarcasm.

We understand you more than you would like to know.

I was fortunate enough to be mentored by some pretty awesome boxers long before I approached the wider community.

I usually wait for Wassamata U to make the self-congratulatory comment, but yes, we are pretty awesome.

Dial-ups, BBS's, non-graphical interfaces, ftp, rtfm files, that awesome sound your modem made getting connected, getting kicked off when the phone had in incoming call, black & white monitors, being ecstatic when you watch someone type a message to you letter-by-letter in real-time! Does this sound like a "Grandma, tell us about the dinosaurs!" post? Please shoot me.

Dial-up modem to Grandma Dinosaur.
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Reply to: #972768 by Snark
Mar 16, 2019 7:19pm
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Dial-up modem.

That was oddly comforting.