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Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #971537 by RDHG
Feb 16, 2019 6:37am
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Sometimes, there is someone we don't want to see our movements, therefore, we make our logbooks private.

Not all letterboxers are in it for the boxing, some are a wee stalkery, which is sad.
Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #971544 by estella_naparella
Feb 16, 2019 6:44am
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Seriously? That is creepy. It is a wonder how some people think. 😕
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Reply to: #971544 by estella_naparella
Feb 16, 2019 6:50am
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Well that is creepy. How common is this? (As in, is this isolated to well known boxers that have been around a long time with super awesome plants?)
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Reply to: #971544 by estella_naparella
Feb 16, 2019 6:52am
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What I don't understand is what difference does it make if someone sees that I went to St. Louis or Ohio ... That really doesn't tell them anything, they're not stalking me because they don't know I was there until after I'm not.
Re: Why hide plants?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #971546 by RDHG
Feb 16, 2019 7:07am
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So let's just say I hide a mystery box in the middle of a long day of planting less mysterious boxes. I might hide my plants for a while so as not to give away hints about the probable location of the mystery box. My finds are currently hidden because I logged some well known boxes while also logging a brand new mystery box series. In retrospect I will probably just log finds or plants like this on separate days because I often let people use my finds to plan boxing trips to Stone Mountain.
But there are not creepy reasons to hide one's plants.
Maybe they plant in a park whose policy has become less permissive to letterboxing and the manager knows their trail name from pulling a box. Hiding their plants might protect the remaining boxes, for instance.
Maybe they planted a bunch of boxes before they learned to carve and don't want folks to go looking for early carves.
Maybe they are trying to keep their real life location private--boxing has led to marriages; I'm sure it has also witnessed divorces. I wouldn't want a hypothetical ex knowing where I hang out on weekends. And since I don't generally plant what I cant physical maintain ( *since my out of state caretakers turned out to be pretty uninterested in box maintance) it's pretty much a given I will be back to any given plant fairly often.
Re: Why hide plants?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #971551 by Quarry
Feb 16, 2019 7:24am
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I got a ticket for putting out a temporary box at my campsite in a state park during an event. The ranger pulled up my listing on AQ, had my name and license plate from the campground, left the ticket on my windshield while out hiking... He also cited me for leaving my pre-teens watching a movie in my locked camper while I was out hiking...

I restrict all my boxes now!
Re: Why hide plants?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #971551 by Quarry
Feb 16, 2019 8:07am
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Thank you, Quarry. That actually makes sense. I appreciate the insight.
Re: Why hide plants?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #971552 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Feb 16, 2019 8:09am
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Wow, it seems like that was quite an overzealous ranger. Why did it matter what you had at your own campsite?!
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Reply to: #971559 by RDHG
Feb 16, 2019 8:24am
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Why did it matter what you had at your own campsite?!

Maybe it was planted in a box of donuts in bear country? =)

-- Ryan
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Reply to: #971547 by All 4 Bama
Feb 16, 2019 8:43am
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How common is this?

It's not really very common. And I'd venture to say it's being nosy rather creepy.
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Reply to: #971552 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Feb 16, 2019 10:22am
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I restrict all my boxes now!

If you restrict all your boxes, the Rangers win. Well, that one single Ranger wins.
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Reply to: #971552 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Feb 16, 2019 11:01am
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I got a ticket for putting out a temporary box at my campsite in a state park during an event.

I’m curious, were letterboxes not allowed at this state park?
Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #971559 by RDHG
Feb 16, 2019 12:07pm
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Who knows? I did put that it was temporary.

State parks in TX require a permit to establish something like a geocache. It's quite a process. BootsTex has worked with the legislature to get letterboxes approved and yet no progress...
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Reply to: #971570 by sketchy-looking guy
Feb 16, 2019 12:09pm
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Well, the letterbox community wins. I wouldn't say the rangers win... The people it matters to can see my boxes, which after seeing your stats (sketchy-looking guy) that it won't matter at all.
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Reply to: #971552 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Feb 16, 2019 12:54pm
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So, Fantastic Mrs. Fox, can I ask what state this is in? The only reason I ask is for informational purposes only as we travel & I want to start hiding more boxes as we do. We also camp. This is surprising.
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Reply to: #971583 by All 4 Bama
Feb 16, 2019 1:49pm
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can I ask what state this is in

Whatever you do don't temporary or otherwise plant in Prince William Forest Park, Dumfries, VA. There was an event there and it was supposed to be a 2 day event and the ranger forced us to pull all the boxes on the morning of the first day. It was very sad as the event planner had worked very hard and many people had come and we were also very disappointed!!!
Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #971581 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Feb 16, 2019 1:52pm
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The people it matters to can see my boxes, which after seeing your stats (sketchy-looking guy) that it won't matter at all.

Just an alias that I thought might fit the logbook stalking theme. Is that 2018 in your profile? Congrats on one year of boxing!!!
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Reply to: #971589 by sketchy-looking guy
Feb 16, 2019 2:02pm
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Just an alias that I thought might fit the logbook stalking theme.

::::::deep sigh of relief::::::: lol
Re: Why hide plants?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #971588 by Elle
Feb 16, 2019 2:06pm
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I remember that. I think it was decided that maybe he was just a jerk on a power trip. Just our luck that he noticed.
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Reply to: #971591 by MissMoon
Feb 16, 2019 4:05pm
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Exactly. 2 other people got tickets too.
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Reply to: #971552 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Feb 16, 2019 4:31pm
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I got a ticket for putting out a temporary box at my campsite in a state park during an event.

I feel for you. I was arrested once at an event, under similar circumstances. Cuffs and everything. Good times, good times.
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Reply to: #971599 by wassamatta u
Feb 16, 2019 5:41pm
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Sometimes, I'd like a "jaw dropping wildly" button...
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Reply to: #971599 by wassamatta u
Feb 16, 2019 5:57pm
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Cuffs and everything.

Yeah, but he let you go pretty quick. We were all a little disappointed never to see you in the back of the squad car. *nodding*

-- Ryan
Re: Why hide plants?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #971573 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Feb 16, 2019 6:00pm
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no state park in texas allows letterboxes without a permit. Which is a very very lengthy process...
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Reply to: #971598 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Feb 16, 2019 7:18pm
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I was responding to the post about the event in Virginia in 2016, the post from Ele. Forgot to include the quote from it.

https://www.atlasquest.com/showinfo.php?eventId=3522
Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #971605 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 3:20am
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This discussion reminds me of the story of how I chose my trail name. The year was 2001 ..... I was legit put in handcuffs, given a breathalyzer, and had my children escorted to a DCYF van when a looky loo in an RV thought I looked suspicious while we were seeking a Jay Drew mystery box in RI. Local and State Police. DEM. Back then we NEVER revealed what we were doing. I told them I was identifying trees. I was finally released.

Warrior Woman
‘nuf said
Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #971606 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Feb 19, 2019 11:19pm
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no state park in texas allows letterboxes without a permit. Which is a very very lengthy process...

and thus, Renegades.
Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #971599 by wassamatta u
Mar 4, 2019 3:37pm
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For what????????????

I once was with a group of 10 people that were walking a hiking trail and a ranger stopped us and threaten to arrest us for trespassing because we shouldn't be hiking during early November. Our leader pressed him on restrictions to the trail and/or park since there was nothing posted at the trailhead and found there were none; but that the ranger just didn't like people in "his" park during the winter.
Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #972350 by Procyon
Mar 4, 2019 3:43pm
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I once was with a group of 10 people that were walking a hiking trail and a ranger stopped us and threaten to arrest us for trespassing because we shouldn't be hiking during early November. Our leader pressed him on restrictions to the trail and/or park since there was nothing posted at the trailhead and found there were none; but that the ranger just didn't like people in "his" park during the winter.

That's awful!! Did anyone contact his manager?
Re: Why hide plants?
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Reply to: #972352 by Rocklun
Mar 4, 2019 3:44pm
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We did, but the manger just laughed and said "That's Bob." And then hung up.