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Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969537 by Yankocats
Dec 20, 2018 9:11am
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This should answer your questions on adopting LBNA boxes on AQ.
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969543 by Kelsung
Dec 20, 2018 9:52am
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Ah, but that policy is about an abandoned listing on AQ.

The third paragraph of the Wiki I posted I thought applied:

The policy of not allowing adoptions extends to creating new listings on AQ of adopted boxes. In other words, if you adopt a box on LBNA, do not list it on AQ without the explicit permission of the original owner.
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969544 by wassamatta u
Dec 20, 2018 2:13pm
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In other words, if you adopt a box on LBNA, do not list it on AQ without the explicit permission of the original owner.

For those who disagree, think of it this way: If the owner of the box on LbNA hadn't listed it on AQ, it was probably for a reason. Maybe the reason was that they didn't know AQ existed or maybe it's because they hate AQ, but they had a reason and you're disrespecting them by ignoring their decision.

And if the owner does come back, how are they going to find the listing on AQ to take it back if they had never listed the box there in the first place?

So yes, if you adopt an LbNA-only box, keep it an LbNA-only box unless you get the explicit permission from the person who planted the box that it's okay to list on AQ.

-- Ryan
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969544 by wassamatta u
Dec 20, 2018 2:15pm
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The original owner past away sometime ago and box became adoptable list, I claim it thru LBNA webmaster named Choi. Email to him, he did transfer box to my trail name and it is done deal. Box is now under yankocats - it’s new owner.
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969539 by Wronghat
Dec 20, 2018 2:25pm
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Box owner was deceased for several years. This box is from LBNA, contact webmaster by email saying box is now adoptable. So Choi(Lbna webmaster) did asked me what number and he did legally changed ownership of box to my trail name. It is done deal and double checked list box - is now under my name. One says just copy the original clue of box and add new AQ# under my name as same clue to Lbna.
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969550 by Yankocats
Dec 20, 2018 3:20pm
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Bless you for keeping a long loved box alive. Did I just hear a bell ring?

Warrior Woman
'every time a bell rings, an angel get its wings'
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969550 by Yankocats
Dec 20, 2018 3:24pm
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Box owner was deceased for several years.

By my understanding of the rules you should be able to list it here. Nevertheless, wait until GT responds and says that it is okay.
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969550 by Yankocats
Dec 20, 2018 3:32pm
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One says just copy the original clue of box and add new AQ# under my name as same clue to Lbna.

If the original owner didn't want their box listed on AQ, then you shouldn't do it! Respect their wishes. Just because they died doesn't mean their opinion no longer counts.

I don't care if someone else told you it's okay--it's not. Ignore that advice to copy the original clue and list it as a new box on AQ. Maybe others think it's okay, but they can't freeze your account for disrespecting the dead like I can, so my opinion on the matter carries a little more weight.

If the planter didn't want it listed on AQ, don't list it on AQ for them. You still need their permission and them passing away doesn't change that (although it will, I admit, make it considerably more difficult to get such permission).

-- Ryan
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969550 by Yankocats
Dec 20, 2018 3:53pm
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So Choi(Lbna webmaster) did asked me what number and he did legally changed ownership of box to my trail name. It is done deal and double checked list box - is now under my name.

... on LBNA only. Choi can allow you to be the listed owner of that box on that site but it has no bearing on what other webmasters must do. They have the right to respect that or not.
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969555 by Green Tortuga
Dec 20, 2018 4:11pm
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Okay, question.
What if a box is listed on both sites and not linked to each other. And box owner dies. It becomes adoptable on LBNA. Someone adopts it. What of the listing of the same box on AQ? How would that work?
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969559 by photopam
Dec 20, 2018 6:34pm
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Okay, question.
What if a box is listed on both sites and not linked to each other. And box owner dies. It becomes adoptable on LBNA. Someone adopts it. What of the listing of the same box on AQ? How would that work?

Sorry, I’m not trying to be snippy (nor do I have any authority here) but how is that (A) relevant to the original question and (B) not answered by the posted links and answered by Ryan himself?

Unless I’m terrible confused the situation is clear, unless you have express written consent from the original box owner you can’t list a box on AQ as yourself as the owner.

Of course, Green Tortuga might be along to correct me if I’m misunderstanding the finer points of the situation.

😄
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969562 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Dec 20, 2018 7:22pm
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Reading the op had me wondering.
Say I had a box named Christmas and had it listed with clues on both sites separately. I died. Now my Christmas box is adoptable on LBNA. Someone adopts it. But what of the same Christmas box listing on AQ?

If you adopt my Christmas box on LBNA, you can make changes if needed like a changed landmark. But the listing on AQ would not be affected, since its not linked. My question then Is, would you also be able to adopt my Christmas box on AQ so you can also update the clue changes there? Or what happens to that listing?

So no new AQ listing of said box.

And maybe the rules for that are posted somewhere, I was just typing while I was wondering. 😊
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969562 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Dec 20, 2018 7:48pm
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unless you have express written consent from the original box owner you can’t list a box on AQ as yourself as the owner.

I don't think consent has to be written--it could be a person's last gasp--I'll try to make it mine.
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969559 by photopam
Dec 20, 2018 9:52pm
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What if a box is listed on both sites and not linked to each other. And box owner dies. It becomes adoptable on LBNA.

I do let people adopt boxes on AQ if the owner dies. They clearly don't mind it being on AQ if they listed it themselves, after all, and I don't want the box to become trash by leaving it abandoned, and it's clearly impossible to get permission from them after they kick the bucket.

So presumably, whoever adopts the box on LbNA would also adopt the box on AQ.

But you're describing a different scenario than the original question asked. Basically, I try to respect the wishes of the planter--even after their death.

-- Ryan
Re: LBNA to AQ
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Reply to: #969569 by Green Tortuga
Dec 21, 2018 4:38am
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Yeap, different senerio, but related. As i said, the OP got me thinking about it.

Another senerio is the owner didn't die, just hasn't logged on in years. Box is adopted on LBNA. What happens to listing here? I've seen a few boxes around here that are abandoned on LBNA, but I think those are linked here. But what if they weren't?

Okay, I need to stop thinking about all the senerios. :D
Re: LBNA to AQ
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #969576 by photopam
Dec 24, 2018 11:34pm
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Another senerio is the owner didn't die, just hasn't logged on in years. Box is adopted on LBNA. What happens to listing here?

Nothing. LbNA doesn't make decisions about how adoptions on AQ work. If you can get the owner to agree to let you adopt the box, though, they can transfer ownership to you. If they don't agree, you can't adopt the box here.

I've seen a few boxes around here that are abandoned on LBNA, but I think those are linked here.

If the clue is hosted elsewhere and you get access to that, you can change those clues. If the clue is hosted on AQ, you won't be able to change them without the owner's permission.

-- Ryan