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Reply to: #969376 by Kirbert
Dec 13, 2018 10:13pm
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So he carefully inked up the belly of the rubber snake and stamped it into his log book.

After hiking a long ways, and looking hard for a particular box, I found it with nothing inside but the logbook and a little plastic cow (wrapped in the inky felt that once protected a stamp). I was unwilling to leave without the find, so I inked that cow up, and stamped it in my logbook. And yes, I recorded the find.
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Board: Stupider Questions About Letterboxing
Reply to: #969352 by IrishRef
Dec 14, 2018 4:16am
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I agree with pretty much everything that has been said so far—if you don’t find the stamp then it’s not a find. How about when you’re looking for a box that should have a container, logbook, and stamp, but some violent act occurred and all that’s left is the stamp? That’s a find in my book.
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Reply to: #969357 by Wronghat
Dec 14, 2018 7:01am
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Many years ago we found a series where the covers had hand-carved stamps but the stamps in the boxes were store-bought. I sent the owner an email but never heard back about it. Several years later I met the planters and found out that they never carved stamps but instead purchased stamps. So my assumption now is that the boxes did originally have hand-carved stamps but a geocacher took those so the planter did the best they could by purchasing store-bought stamps that fit the theme of the series. About a year later I carved a stamp for them and they were very appreciative.
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Reply to: #969360 by Rocklun
Dec 14, 2018 7:31am
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We actually crossed a "fire zone, do not enter" tape line to go after a 55 Steps box in New Zealand (it wasn't far and the are had started to recover from the fire).

Box was melted so we took the entire thing with an eye towards pulling the stamp out and replanting with a new box (assuming we could). Got the stamp out but it was partially melted (hard to see the image) but we did ink it up and count the find.

Tried to notify 55 steps but she hadn't been online since before the last earthquake down there. Wound up contacting an administrator because we:
1-could tell what image we should replace it with
2-had pulled it in an attempt to do maintenance.

Admins marked the box unavailable but we still haven't heard from 55 steps.....still praying she and her family are ok.
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Board: Stupider Questions About Letterboxing
Reply to: #969379 by Wise Wanderer
Dec 14, 2018 8:23am
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After hiking a long ways, and looking hard for a particular box, I found it with nothing inside but the logbook and a little plastic cow (wrapped in the inky felt that once protected a stamp). I was unwilling to leave without the find, so I inked that cow up, and stamped it in my logbook. And yes, I recorded the find.

Earned your trail name that day!

(Don't ask about ours)
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Board: Stupider Questions About Letterboxing
Reply to: #969352 by IrishRef
Dec 14, 2018 9:34am
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I can see a box "found" only with the logbook if there is a clear image of the stamp in the logbook. With the wonderful use of technology; a cell phone that is, one can take a picture of the image stamped within the logbook. Then one can comfortably go home, print the photo, cut it out and glue it into ones logbook. Voila, counted as a find. Sounds like a lot of work but works if you like crafts! ;-)
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Reply to: #969352 by IrishRef
Dec 14, 2018 10:49am
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I would count both of those as a find, I just wouldn’t log them as such on AQ.

Postals, LTCs, tabletop event boxes are all about collecting stamp images. Letterboxing is about solving clues. You solved the clues, you found the box. It’s called a “find”, not a “stamped”. It’s called boxing, not stamping.

As to other situations mentioned, if a stamp has been swapped out with a different stamp, I’m also not logging that on AQ. A find on AQ is public information that implies everything was as it should be as of that date. Different people play different ways, so I’m not going to mislead anyone’s expectations.

What’s in my physical logbooks is personal. My PFX count is a representation of what I feel I have done. AQ is not, and has never claimed to be, the rules. It is one resource in a larger hobby.

K
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Reply to: #969390 by Kelsung
Dec 14, 2018 11:23am
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AQ is not, and has never claimed to be, the rules.

How could that be⸘ Letterboxing can only be played one way⸘
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Reply to: #969390 by Kelsung
Dec 14, 2018 11:39am
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By the way, my personal logic goes the other way, too. I’ve found a few box-of-the-months, where I walked the same trail to the same box 12 times for 12 different stamps. I logged it on AQ every month, but I personally only counted it as one find.

K
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Reply to: #969352 by IrishRef
Dec 14, 2018 3:10pm
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I found a box a few years ago that had the stamp, but when I tried drying off the stamp due to it being wet, it crumbled and the image was no more. I could not stamp it and I never recorded it.
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Reply to: #969394 by bfarowl
Dec 14, 2018 3:29pm
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when I tried drying off the stamp due to it being wet, it crumbled and the image was no more.

I’ve had nightmares like that.
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Reply to: #969352 by IrishRef
Dec 14, 2018 7:58pm
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However one would like to play is fine with me, log it as a find or not. However, I would sincerely appreciate it if one would comment on the status of the box for all to see.