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Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #968974 by FORAYCH
Dec 2, 2018 7:09am
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I have already carved up 2 12x12 sheets of it and find no issues with it other than cutting the stamps apart... you have to be careful as it's like it has a grain to it and if you are cutting across it - you can get hung up and then it lets go - causing the cut to go astray. But carving it is much better than pink any day of the week for me... I hate pink :)
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
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Reply to: #968973 by BBStacker
Dec 2, 2018 8:12am
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The Tan is much better than Pink in my opinion. I had only used pink until I tried the Tan. Wow, what a difference! After going through a couple slabs I went back and used the Pink for a donation stamp. It seemed like I was carving mud, ha ha.

I’m not sure it will help with your mistakes but it did with mine. Because it offers more resistance, the carving tools have less of a tendency “slip” into an areas that weren’t meant to be cut. I also like the way it prints much better. Because it’s less “squishy” than pink, I find I get less accidental transfer marks.

I agree that you should get a slab and try it for yourself. I also agree that it’s good to support the community.

DZ
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
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Reply to: #968973 by BBStacker
Dec 2, 2018 9:20am
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A question for all you out there that are using this material - is it worth the effort to purchase or should I go to Michael's and buy some pink stuff?

Tan-Z is more like OZ. I'm not a conosour so it carves the same for me. Others notice a difference.

Let me echo the idea of buying a slab and trying it.
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
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Reply to: #968973 by BBStacker
Dec 2, 2018 11:52am
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Tan-Z - my comments are totally overwhelming positive. I did like the old pink, sure, but am over the moon about this stuff. Yes, it's quite firm and maybe that's why I feel like I can do (for me anyway) more challenging carves, and stamps up dandy with different inks. Light pre-sanding makes a world of difference. And yes, so grateful to Webfoot.
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #968973 by BBStacker
Dec 2, 2018 12:58pm
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...is it worth the effort to purchase or should I go to Michael's and buy some pink stuff?

Why don't you just forget both of those and buy the Japanese stuff?

http://www.stampeaz.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=747
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
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Reply to: #968987 by Kirbert
Dec 2, 2018 1:13pm
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Why don't you just forget both of those and buy the Japanese stuff?

If that’s a serious recommendation, can you tell us why (the pros and cons)?
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
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Reply to: #968973 by BBStacker
Dec 2, 2018 6:54pm
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There is no "One Size Fits All" perfect material, and, to be honest, all of the carving materials have their issues. You have to determine what material works best for you and your carving style. I loved Orange when it was available, but other people hated it. Conversely, I hate using OZ and some people think it's the greatest. Get the smallest piece you can, then try it. If you don't like it, then go back to pink, or try something else. Tan-Z is the new kid and everyone has something to say about it. If you go back to messages posted when OZ came out, you'll probably find everyone giving their opinion on it, and a good bit of those will be negative comments, but people learned to like it.

dp
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #968987 by Kirbert
Dec 3, 2018 5:18am
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buy the Japanese stuff

I bought a slab of both types from Webfoot and liked one of them. The other was way too soft and I couldn't get favorable quality lettering with it. Sadly I can't remember which one was a bit more firm. But I was thinking as you are and thought I'd post the question on Tan-Z before making a decision.
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #968986 by Team Awesome Pants
Dec 3, 2018 5:20am
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Thanks for all the replies everyone. Seeing such positive comments convinces me that I should give this new material a shot.
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #968988 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Dec 3, 2018 10:56am
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If that’s a serious recommendation, can you tell us why (the pros and cons)?

I only tried an early prototype of the tan stuff, but I didn't care for it at all. I prefer pink. But the Japanese stuff is some of the best carving material I've ever carved. It is soft -- even the "harder" version is still softer than most materials we're familiar with -- but the softness just makes it stamp really well! It carves like a dream. The problem used to be getting ahold of it without paying exorbitant shipping rates from Japan, but Webfoot now carries it solving that problem. Admittedly it's not cheap, but it'll be the only stuff I buy as long as it's available.
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #969011 by Kirbert
Dec 3, 2018 11:43am
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I agree - I'm a complete convert from SLQ to the Japanese SEED (thanks, Rebiccola!).
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #969011 by Kirbert
Dec 3, 2018 2:52pm
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what is the name of it on Stampeaz?
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #969031 by aMAZEing adventure frog
Dec 3, 2018 3:15pm
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what is the name of it on Stampeaz?

Tan-Z Kut
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #969031 by aMAZEing adventure frog
Dec 3, 2018 3:20pm
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Kirbert provided a link to the product page in his initial post
https://www.atlasquest.com/boards/message.php?msgId=968987
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #968961 by Oberon_Kenobi
Dec 4, 2018 6:47am
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What makes the texture is the extrusion process. It would have cost a *lot* more to have them totally retool the machine for my batch and as it was, I was able to piggy back onto the set-up for another material they made for a different customer and cut the set-up fee out of the cost of the run, too. The decision to leave it one-sided was mainly an economic one. And, since the original PZ had crimps on the back from the machines, too, I figured people could live with it for a lower cost material.

Also, I've been toying with an interesting idea for the back side of the material - it's on my list of things to play with when I carve my next multi-layer image. I thought it might make a really nice texture for shading. It's like it's already stippled and ready to give that intermediate shadow between white and black (or any other color) when printing. I think it could be pretty cool. Stay tuned! Or, if you beat me to the experiment, let us know how it works!

Webfoot
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #969058 by Webfoot
Dec 4, 2018 7:11am
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Ooo.. now there’s an idea!
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #969034 by Bon Echo
Dec 4, 2018 9:04am
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Found it. Ordered some. Thanks.
Re: Tan-Z Pattern
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #969062 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Dec 4, 2018 9:51am
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As someone else said, carving is an individual skill. We all use different tools, different techniques, and have various limitations, preferences, and experience levels. The service that Stampeaz/Webfoot provides, is to make and offer a variety of materials, so virtually anyone can make SOMETHING work for them. I join in thanking her for great work!!