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Re: AQ Numbers
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #950369 by Kirbert
Aug 22, 2017 2:15am
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I love the reserve feature. It's very handy for generating AQ numbers in advance. I'd suggest trying it for a couple of your carves and see how you like it. The reserve listing will hold them for a long time.
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Reply to: #950380 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Aug 22, 2017 10:07am
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Most people probably have the box number on their clues--that's what I usually use! But there's no downside to writing it on the box either.
Re: AQ Numbers
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Reply to: #950361 by Kirbert
Aug 22, 2017 10:22am
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I almost always set up each stamp I carve as a reserved box which automatically provides a box number. When I am preparing the box for actual planting, I write the AQ box number on both the stamp and the logbook. I don't know if this in any way helps future finders but it is just part of my prepping process and I wouldn't feel complete without doing it. I love the reserved box function and have some stamps that have been listed as reserved boxes for almost two years still waiting to be planted.

I especially appreciate when the AQ numbers are on either or both the logbook and the stamp when I am at an event. It is so much easier to write the number by the stamped impression and log later. So many event stamps have no identifiers in the box or the actual box name may have been altered in some way between planting and listing so it is a guessing game when I am trying to log them later. AQ numbers provide definitive identification.
Re: AQ Numbers
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Reply to: #950361 by Kirbert
Aug 22, 2017 12:03pm
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Seems to me if people are supposed to find a logbook I plant somewhere out in the world and write stuff in it, I can't censor what they write. If you have a penchant for adding an AQ# who's gonna know how it got there? I'm happy to get find notices and even happier with comments.
Comment: "Hey, somebody wrote the AQ# in your logbook."
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Reply to: #950365 by MissMoon
Aug 22, 2017 1:59pm
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I put my boxes in reserved. Write the AQ# in the logbook. When I get home I write my clue. I've only done this on a few of my newer boxes. Also a few LTC's until I get my cards finish.
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Reply to: #950405 by oceanwinds
Aug 22, 2017 3:42pm
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I put my boxes in reserved.

I have always done this also
But then I noticed that those boxes never showed up on the newest listed box widow on my home page
Presumably because they were technically listed on the date I placed the reserve
I note a lot of local boxes on the newest planted list
Maybe people are missing mine because they don't show up?
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Reply to: #950408 by CorgiLover
Aug 22, 2017 3:47pm
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Presumably because they were technically listed on the date I placed the reserve

All you have to do is change the date to the actual planted date.
Re: AQ Numbers
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Reply to: #950361 by Kirbert
Aug 22, 2017 6:44pm
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i have been thinking on this subject since i first saw the post and trying to remain objective. not succeeding. i keep thinking why? i have no problem with progress, i have no problem with technology. have had a computer since 1977. what i have a problem with is handing the world to someone, anyone, on a silver platter.

i for one do not want to be reduced to a number. i put a lot of thought into my planted boxes. the stamp. the location. the clue. and the name of the letterbox. the name of the letterbox is just as important to me as any of the aforementioned. i do not only list my plants on aq, i also list them on lbna. there are those that do not use aq and are not likely to.

presumably if a person has found my box they have clues printed from aq or lbna. if that is the case they have the name of the letterbox. if they have found the letterbox by accident is it really any harder to write down the name of the letterbox and the planter than the number?

i leave a comment in 99% of the letterboxes i find. i appreciate the comments that finders leave in my logbooks. in my most humble opinion having a finder write down the aq number of the box in my logbook is not a comment, it is an insult. do they think i am an irresponsible planter? that i don't know what numbers are? that my plant is incomplete because i have not included a number? do they think of me as a number instead of a person? i could go on and on but i think i have made my point.

i do not want to be reduced to a number.

smile
Re: AQ Numbers
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Reply to: #950418 by uneksia
Aug 22, 2017 6:54pm
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i do not want to be reduced to a number.

You've got me remembering "The Prisoner"

Number Six: Who are you?
Number Two: The new Number Two.
Number Six: Who is Number One?
Number Two: You are Number Six.
Number Six: I am not a number! I am a free man!
Number Two: [laughs]
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Reply to: #950420 by Wronghat
Aug 22, 2017 7:55pm
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You've got me remembering "The Prisoner"

Number Six: Who are you?
Number Two: The new Number Two.
Number Six: Who is Number One?
Number Two: You are Number Six.
Number Six: I am not a number! I am a free man!
Number Two: [laughs]

Here is the opening sequence of the second episode.

And a video with similar sentiment.
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Reply to: #950420 by Wronghat
Aug 22, 2017 8:46pm
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And, of course, the Iron Maiden song for which that quote provides intro :)
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Reply to: #950420 by Wronghat
Aug 22, 2017 9:51pm
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A recent Puzzled Pint set was themed on The Prisoner.
Re: AQ Numbers
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Reply to: #950418 by uneksia
Aug 23, 2017 1:27am
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i do not want to be reduced to a number.

As #1, I can tell you that you're #60--which is a fine and respectable number and one you can be proud of! But I'll always call you uneksia. ;o)

Your number, after all, isn't actually your name!
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Reply to: #950429 by Green Tortuga
Aug 23, 2017 2:53am
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Re: AQ Numbers
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Reply to: #950422 by Oberon_Kenobi
Aug 23, 2017 7:17am
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Oh My what memories..... I watched that faithfully in another lifetime!!!!!!

Thanks!
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Reply to: #950429 by Green Tortuga
Aug 23, 2017 7:30am
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I can tell you that you're #60....

I have to admit, I thought I was being funny. But not a single funny click. *sigh* I really should leave the funny posts to Wassa.

-- Ryan
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Reply to: #950429 by Green Tortuga
Aug 23, 2017 7:38pm
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which is a fine and respectable

well dang! there went my reputation!

smile

p.s. have to say... there is only one uneksia :)
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Reply to: #950409 by Janila
Aug 24, 2017 6:47am
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I've done that also, chance the date.
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Reply to: #950400 by Janila
Aug 24, 2017 5:31pm
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I agree, AQ#s on stamps and/or logs at events are very helpful. Most HH's, Fleas, Cooties, etc. would be much easier to log with AQ#'s listed as well.
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Reply to: #950418 by uneksia
Aug 25, 2017 7:50am
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presumably if a person has found my box they have clues printed from aq or lbna. if that is the case they have the name of the letterbox. if they have found the letterbox by accident is it really any harder to write down the name of the letterbox and the planter than the number?

i leave a comment in 99% of the letterboxes i find. i appreciate the comments that finders leave in my logbooks. in my most humble opinion having a finder write down the aq number of the box in my logbook is not a comment, it is an insult. do they think i am an irresponsible planter? that i don't know what numbers are? that my plant is incomplete because i have not included a number? do they think of me as a number instead of a person? i could go on and on but i think i have made my point.

i do not want to be reduced to a number.

In a perfect world maybe... :)

I'm really not seeing how having the AQ number that is assigned to the box, on the box as an identifier, "reduces" anyone to a number. It's just part of the package - the container, the spot, the carve, the name, the number, etc. Now, as someone who prides themselves as getting every other part of your boxes correct, you may conclude that adding the number is redundant or somehow takes away from the experience. And in your case you might very well be right. But in the messy real world it can often be a good thing.

For example, we once found a box where the hider/carver had put a wood backing on the stamp and had glued a paper on the backing. All the box info was on that paper. They were clearly trying to do things as well as could be expected. Unfortunately the glue failed and all of the box info had delaminated. We found the paper nearby (and returned it to the box) but it was worse for wear and barely legible. A number on the box in that case would be helpful to future finders.

Another time we found a box exactly as the clues described, but... the image and name was from another listing that was supposed to be about a thousand yards away (which we could not find). We weren't sure which box to log, a number would have been a big help.

Then there is the situation of a very popular tourist spot we visit often. Between AQ and LbNA there are about 4 boxes listed in a 30-40 foot area. We found one of them... but didn't know for sure which one - the carve didn't match any names and there was not a number on it.

We found a HH once and had a devil of a time running down its listing. Its listing name and the name that was written on the actual stamp was similar but not the same, a number would have helped. Also there is a thread on the front page right now where a number would have solved the mystery of a listing.

Everyone plays the game in their own way and we all have our likes and preferences and I love that about letterboxing. And I'm certainly not trying to sway you one way or another, just pointing out that are are legitimate reasons for adding numbers in some cases. And that identifying your hide by number need not have negative connotations.

All of my above opinions are regarding putting the AQ# on your own box, I would never alter someone else's box unless specifically asked to!

Re: AQ Numbers
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Reply to: #950361 by Kirbert
Aug 25, 2017 8:16am
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As a few others already mentioned, I think it would be presumptuous as hell for anybody to take it upon themselves to add ANYTHING to someone else's letterbox. Personally, I put my boxes out for one reason... for other boxers to find, log in, re-hide, and then move on with their day. Not for people to alter based on their own opinion of what they think a letterbox should be. Honestly, if someone did this to any of my boxes, I would be pissed off and annoyed. I would also try my hardest to find out who did it, so I could send them an angry email telling them how much of a presumptuous a**hole I thought they were. My 'petty' side would also probably compel me to go out and 'alter' some of their letterboxes in return... Bottom line, besides being pointless in my opinion, it just takes a special kind of jerk to go around thinking they're the letterbox 'police', altering boxes. For all you know, maybe they specifically omitted the number for some reason. And although I can't really think of a reason why you would do that, I also can't think of any logical reason why ANYONE would take it upon themselves to arbitrarily add ANYTHING to a box they don't own.
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Reply to: #950509 by Booshmen
Aug 25, 2017 1:24pm
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I also can't think of any logical reason why ANYONE would take it upon themselves to arbitrarily add ANYTHING to a box they don't own.

People always add an image of their signature stamps, and usually a comment or two. Sometimes they add a hitchhiker. If someone puts the box number as part of a comment (i.e. really loved #66666), how can I get upset?
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Reply to: #950513 by Wronghat
Aug 25, 2017 1:43pm
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I also can't think of any logical reason why ANYONE would take it upon themselves to arbitrarily add ANYTHING to a box they don't own.

People always add an image of their signature stamps, and usually a comment or two. Sometimes they add a hitchhiker. If someone puts the box number as part of a comment (i.e. really loved #66666), how can I get upset?

Well that's just plain funny and I'd outta know because old Turd knows funny
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Reply to: #950509 by Booshmen
Aug 25, 2017 3:06pm
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For all you know, maybe they specifically omitted the number for some reason.

Like to be puttink und klue to und other box.
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Reply to: #950513 by Wronghat
Aug 25, 2017 7:55pm
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You did notice my use of the word 'arbitrarily', right? Because you basically described, to the letter, all of the things normally expected from a letterbox 'finder'... Literally the polar opposite of 'arbitrarily'.
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Reply to: #950527 by Booshmen
Aug 25, 2017 8:01pm
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"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." — Inigo Montoya,
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Reply to: #950528 by Wronghat
Aug 25, 2017 8:21pm
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"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." — Inigo Montoya,

You mean this?
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Reply to: #950506 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Aug 26, 2017 8:21am
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It's just part of the package - the container, the spot, the carve, the name, the number

Nope. The first things in this list describe the essence what a letterbox is; the number is an artefact of one particular website's implementation of the game, and does not contribute to the essence of a letterbox.

Now, I don't care if people want AQ numbers on their boxes, or if they "arbitrarily" (or otherwise) write numbers in mine. Go for it if you think it is useful. But I do draw the line at attempting to define the game in terms of one website's implementation of it.
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Reply to: #950544 by Sir Braemoor
Aug 26, 2017 9:12am
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But I do draw the line at attempting to define the game in terms of one website's implementation of it.

I mostly agree, but when one website is dominant in the hobby then it will predominate in defining what that hobby means. Note: I used "predominate" not "dictate".
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Reply to: #950544 by Sir Braemoor
Aug 26, 2017 4:58pm
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Nope. The first things in this list describe the essence what a letterbox is; the number is an artefact [sic] of one particular website's implementation of the game, and does not contribute to the essence of a letterbox.

At least in my post I qualified my my remarks as being opinions. You state them as some sort of fact. Maybe you have cite, some appeal to authority, that could clarify the matter?

In my opinion, if you hide and name a box then list it on a particular repository website that automatically assigns it a number then that number is just as much a part of what that box is as any of its other attributes. If you choose, for example, to list it on your private website and not on AQ then I agree with you. Or if you choose to list it on AQ but choose not to use the number, that's certainly your perogative too. And I applaud the way you play the game. It doesn't however mean that there is some bright-line definition of what constitutes what is a box attribute or not.

Cheers.
:)