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Which comes first the box or the clue!
Board: Mysterious Capers and Sneaky Stuff
Jan 12, 2017 12:52pm
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I have decided to plant my first mystery box, well ok not my first, but my first under my nom de plume. I am sitting here home sick today and have found a place I want to plant, but here's the catch. I have never been there before. I know they have lots of trails to plant on and for some reason there are no boxes already listed in the area, unless there are other mysteries I don't know about. I don't know what I am going to carve yet though I have a very general idea, I don't know the exact location of the plant because I have never been there before, and I already have the clue almost completely written. That's right the clue is almost completely done. All I have to do is finish the last part that gets you to the actual box.

Have any other mystery box planters done this or do you all have the exact location and stamp ready before writing the clue?
Re: Which comes first the box or the clue!
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Reply to: #940476 by Inknigma
Jan 12, 2017 1:16pm
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I'm not sure what you mean by mystery box, but I have done this with other boxes of mine. I write up a story/adventure, and when I'm on the trail, I just tweak it to follow the route of the trail. For one of mine, I wrote it in poem form, before I went to the trail. I had to change it a bit, but writing it ahead of time kept me from diverting too much from the idea I had. You can actually write the clue on Atlasquest in Reserved Status, and once you're ready to finish it up, you can publish it as a traditional letterbox or a mystery (no location given, or only a city or state location given).
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Reply to: #940477 by FloridaFour
Jan 12, 2017 1:28pm
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you can publish it as a traditional letterbox or a mystery (no location given, or only a city or state location given)

AQ won't list it as a mystery any more if the city is given in the location. From the Add a Letterbox page:

What happened to mysteries, word-of-mouth and bonus boxes?
These settings will now automatically be applied based on your box settings. Boxes with 'wide-open' locations (larger than a city) will automatically be considered a mystery, boxes that have no clues listed will automatically be considered WOM and boxes that have a dependency restriction will automatically be considered bonus boxes.
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Reply to: #940476 by Inknigma
Jan 12, 2017 2:12pm
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Reply to: #940476 by Inknigma
Jan 12, 2017 2:24pm
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I enjoy scouting locations ahead of time which usually provides richer detail and better theme fits that hopefully add to the experience of the finder. This also allows you to add more pieces of the clue that can only be unraveled on site after they have figured out the starting point. This can extend the mystery all the way to the hiding spot.

On the other hand, creating the majority of the clue, beyond the just the starting point, from Google research is challenging, fun, and something to do in the winter months up around here. Having multiple layers of Google info tucked into the clue can increase the mystery level and some boxers enjoy solving out the clues online before heading out to find a box. Then when you go to plant the box on you initial visit to the site, you've added the suspense for yourself of trying to fit the last step together with the rest of the mystery.
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Reply to: #940487 by dingus dufus
Jan 12, 2017 4:38pm
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Having multiple layers of Google info tucked into the clue

Kind of like google inception, eh?

LB
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Reply to: #940491 by LightninBug
Jan 12, 2017 4:49pm
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Kind of like google inception, eh?

Now you're talking. ;)
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Reply to: #940487 by dingus dufus
Jan 12, 2017 5:10pm
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On the other hand, creating the majority of the clue, beyond the just the starting point, from Google research is challenging, fun, and something to do in the winter months up around here.

I once solved a mystery box like that. I used google to determine the starting point and then I used google street view to drive to the actual box. It was frustrating being able to see the exact spot the box was hidden and not being able to get my hands on it, as well as knowing that I my never get to that area to even have a chance of putting my hands on it.
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Reply to: #940476 by Inknigma
Jul 9, 2017 6:20pm
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The deed is done!
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Reply to: #940476 by Inknigma
Aug 2, 2017 10:38pm
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Surely both give rise to the other as a causal loop. When you stop thinking of time in a linear fashion, there is little difference between cause and effect. When a great clue/box combination arises they simply exist in spacetime and their origins cannot be determined.
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Reply to: #949483 by Eye of Mara
Aug 3, 2017 7:56am
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When you stop thinking of time in a linear fashion, there is little difference between cause and effect.

This theory is confirmed by another who seen time in a non-linear fashion.