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Re: OZ is making me crazy!!
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Reply to: #810168 by artTrekker
Oct 13, 2013 4:06pm
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If it has a lot of solid areas, they will be slightly blotchy. I attribute this to the OZ not blowing as absorbant or flexible as the pink.
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Reply to: #810170 by FloridaFour
Oct 13, 2013 4:08pm
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If it has a lot of solid areas, they will be slightly blotchy.

That might be the difference. I find that most my images don't have much solid areas.
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Reply to: #810170 by FloridaFour
Oct 13, 2013 4:32pm
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If it has a lot of solid areas, they will be slightly blotchy.

It does seem the solid areas are the biggest problem. Some of them have very fine detail, and the blotchy just obliterates everything. What's the point of getting fine detail if it doesn't show?
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Reply to: #810175 by artTrekker
Oct 13, 2013 4:40pm
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I know what you mean. I think it shows fine detail well with negative carves, and will hold the negative lines. I think with any super fine positive lines, some will be obliterated by the ink. Bet to use an ink that isn't too thick. I like Versafine ink, or Ranger Archival dye ink. Thicker pigment inks probably will fill in the thin white areas too much.
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Reply to: #810177 by FloridaFour
Oct 13, 2013 4:45pm
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Ah. that might be the problem. i don't use pigment inks. i use Stazon or dye inks with OZ and i don't get blotchiness. Could this be the solution??

~tigs (who carves basically on OZ and nothing else)
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Reply to: #810170 by FloridaFour
Oct 13, 2013 4:47pm
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If it has a lot of solid areas, they will be slightly blotchy.

That's not necessarily the fault of the carving material.
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Reply to: #810168 by artTrekker
Oct 13, 2013 4:51pm
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My stamps are detailed and don't have large solid areas, but for what it's worth, if I'm having trouble I clean the stamp, ink it up with Stazon, and don't stamp it, just let the ink dry on the stamp. I find it makes the surface a little more tacky and receptive to the ink.
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Reply to: #810182 by Aiphid
Oct 13, 2013 4:52pm
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That's not necessarily the fault of the carving material.

Yes, that is my biggest problem is making a good impression! No really, I often find it difficult to stamp my impressions well.
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Reply to: #810184 by nosox
Oct 13, 2013 4:54pm
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Love the new siggy stamp pic. You always have the most awesome image up there!!
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Reply to: #810175 by artTrekker
Oct 13, 2013 5:05pm
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the solid areas are the biggest problem. Some of them have very fine detail,

I'm not really sure what you mean by it being solid areas that have fine detail. Is it a negative image?
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Reply to: #810190 by The Wolf Family
Oct 13, 2013 5:11pm
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There are big solid areas with just a few very fine lines gouged out of them, to create a little form.
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Reply to: #810191 by artTrekker
Oct 13, 2013 5:17pm
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There are big solid areas with just a few very fine lines gouged out of them

So it sounds like you have a negative image and the ink is filling in the lines. Can you make the lines deeper?
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Reply to: #810191 by artTrekker
Oct 13, 2013 5:19pm
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There are big solid areas with just a few very fine lines gouged out of them, to create a little form.

Is a pic possible?
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Reply to: #810180 by tiggermama
Oct 13, 2013 5:32pm
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Sometimes all that's left is weeping.

Last night, I could NOT get an image in the stamp logbook for the box I was making w/out blotchiness and gaps from the OZ. I was using versa-fine black ink, so this should have been a no-brainer. Finally resorted to better paper, swearing, and acetone wipedown and cut/pasted it onto the first page. Sheesh. Open Space turned me on to 600 grit sandpaper. Oooooooh. I'll try that next and report back. Unless she weighs in here first.
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Reply to: #810172 by Raven
Oct 13, 2013 5:57pm
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And therefore when the image will have lots of solid areas, I'll choose a different carving material.
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Reply to: #810196 by Wry Me
Oct 13, 2013 6:51pm
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Finally resorted to better paper, swearing, and. . .

i often find that resorting to swearing improves a number of things. . .

and i think i do the acetone wipedown, too, come to think of it, as part of the image transfer. So that might be part of the reason i'm not having problems. (Just reread Aiphid's column) i don't actually sand anything. i found that left weird little lines on stamps. . .

~tigs (off to finish carving postal stamps)
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Reply to: #810168 by artTrekker
Oct 13, 2013 7:02pm
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Sand it vigorously. Honestly.
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Reply to: #810227 by Eli and Joe
Oct 13, 2013 7:08pm
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Sand it vigorously. Honestly.

Yup. Just don't scrub it vigorously with acetone.
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Reply to: #810221 by tiggermama
Oct 13, 2013 7:30pm
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i often find that resorting to swearing improves a number of things. . .

You swear??!!
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Reply to: #810194 by Raven
Oct 13, 2013 7:36pm
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I could do a pic, but don't want to post a spoiler for an upcoming event.

Versafine wins. It's my juiciest ink pad and made the best image. I don't have staz-on, so can't test that.

Eli, maybe there'll be a little time on Saturday for a mini-tutorial.
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Reply to: #810239 by The Wolf Family
Oct 13, 2013 8:23pm
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BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

oh no, not me! never. you of all people should know that indelicacies have never left my lily white mouth.

~tigs (did i say that with a straight face? was there a twitch?)
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Reply to: #810168 by artTrekker
Oct 13, 2013 10:12pm
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I found it hard to control my tools in this hard material, so curved lines are wiggly

Sharpen your tools.

I had to push my gouges and knifes through OZ, slipping some times. Then I sharpened them and my tools glide through very easily. You'll get smoother lines that way. Here are Kirbert's tutorials.
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Reply to: #810274 by Oberon_Kenobi
Oct 14, 2013 4:26am
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I had to push my gouges and knifes through OZ, slipping some times.

I don't own OZ yet, so I can not attest to anything, but I thought *someone* had posted about using oil (maybe coconut oil) to assist the gouge in a smooth clean cut. Then the stamp was thoroughly washed off prior to stamping. Coconut oil would wash off more easily then other oils. Since no one has mentioned this, thought I would add this idea into the conversation, but someone who has utilized it successfully might want to chime in!
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Reply to: #810244 by artTrekker
Oct 14, 2013 10:18am
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I know how amazingly detailed your marvelous stamps are.... cannot wait to see it this weekend!

Wendy
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Reply to: #810274 by Oberon_Kenobi
Oct 14, 2013 1:17pm
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Sharpen your tools.

Yeah, my tools are less than ideal. I really need to send a package to Kirbert.
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Reply to: #810301 by bluebirdlover
Oct 14, 2013 1:19pm
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I don't own OZ yet

Susan, would you like me to send you a piece? I am pretty sure this is not going to be my material of choice.
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Reply to: #810365 by Wendy
Oct 14, 2013 1:21pm
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Thanks, Wendy, a high compliment coming from you. Look forward to seeing you!
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Reply to: #810244 by artTrekker
Oct 14, 2013 2:42pm
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I would love to be a part of the mini tutorial if time allows on Saturday
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Reply to: #810395 by artTrekker
Oct 14, 2013 5:01pm
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Moi?

Based on some of the tools I've been getting for sharpening, some of you guys are waiting too long! I can't see how some of these have been used!
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Reply to: #810396 by artTrekker
Oct 14, 2013 6:50pm
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If you are up for that, sure! I will give it a whirl! And where will you look for carving material from there?