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Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978350 by Sagacorn
Aug 14, 2019 8:01am
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Up front: I have never tried printing OSM maps...

What I do.. is use screen captures / shots whatever you call it... CTRL Prt Sc on my computer... and then save that in MS Paint or what have you... after that you can edit the image to fit your need... sometimes a section for a day trip / box hunt... on paper... or if you don't have a smart phone like me.. I store the image in a digital camera for field reference... be it an OSM map or an air photo... Of course you can do the same with a smart phone or anything that you can stick a USB stick into for images...

I guess that someday I might break down and get a phone someday... and I mean phone... been without since 2005 and haven't missed it... use a friends when I need to but don't overdo it. Might get a simple cellular radiotelephone though... now over 70 and it gets really lonely out there in the bush when you think you are in trouble... just saying...

But overall, it is an interesting point... did something change... and at what point.
At OSM, at your point of contact , software and so forth... so I'll be looking at that.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978350 by Sagacorn
Aug 14, 2019 8:33am
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OSM?
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978352 by SherlockMiles
Aug 14, 2019 11:42am
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OSM... like in the board and group Name... OpenStreetMap.

This is an open mapping site where people can add to and enter new plots of information to the map database... some you can use and some you don't need but someone else might like it...

Putting it in is fairly easy, but sometimes getting it out is hard... hah!

In this case the OP wants to print the map they see... but they say that the print is not working... I mentioned one way to get it if they can see it on screen... but agree that direct to printer sounds better... I have not tried and my printer is down...

I also asked if they could say where exactly they were trying to print from...
the OSM site, some other map source or just from their computer... that would help see the problem... but.. til then.

They really do make nice maps... but remember that the system allows people to create their own using the data... I get maps from one site... for use in my GPS... which is getting old... the problem I run into is that their maps have way to much data from the site that I cannot see or use in my GPS but that is my problem... and one reason why I only input really basic stuff into the database and let someone else edit my entries... which I can often not see the results...
which is sad... but it's my GPS limits not the map's...
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978353 by 7rxc
Aug 14, 2019 1:42pm
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I was curious and googled and joined. I put several real addresses into the search and got no results found?

I use google maps but I was curious about this one.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978350 by Sagacorn
Aug 14, 2019 1:55pm
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OpenStreetMaps is all about editing the database, not about actually making any use of it. For using the maps, they offer a listing of various applications:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OpenStreetMap#Ready-made_online_maps

On my phone, I use MAPS.ME which allows me to save state maps on the SD card and therefore not have to download data every time I want to use it. This is helpful out in the woods where I can't get reception.

Here's something funny: Google Maps is very strict about unlicensed use of their map data, but OpenStreetMaps is very clear that anyone is free to use theirs. People who look stuff up on Google Maps in order to edit OSM are likely to get in trouble, and if OSM hears about it they will delete those updates. But Google Maps clearly uses OSM data in their maps! I've entered stuff before to have it not only appear on OSM maps but appear on Google Maps as well.

They're both useful. Google Maps even includes property lines in some areas, which is great when you're off-road.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978350 by Sagacorn
Aug 14, 2019 5:00pm
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Like 7, I’ve not tried to print them but also like 7 I just take a screen shot and print that. Much easier for me and I can adjust the contrast in PS and get a better map if I choose.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978353 by 7rxc
Aug 14, 2019 5:23pm
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To answer 7's question......I'm trying to print from my computer. I can print by grabbing a snip and them Print from file but it only prints a very small part of the page. I've tried landscape and portrait w/o any more success.
I don't use my phone for this stuff I'm of the 'using paper maps' age. I can plot my lb'ing route easier that way. Thanks to all for any help.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978358 by Sagacorn
Aug 14, 2019 8:52pm
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I was poking around over there this afternoon while having lunch...
for the direct site, it was just about as I said..., cut out and print elsewhere...
They did have some stuff in the Using Maps Wiki... I have to go back in for the names, but there seems to be a few programs that can handle files exported from OSM (see Export) and print them... One advantage of that might be size... in the Export function you can set geodetic style boundaries... and tell it to export. Then you take that file into the other software and print away... but a bit much to digest at the same time as gulping down food... and drink...

I'll still try to do one... using my method... I got one file saved as a PNG image... and will play with it... that is screenshot from OSM site. but really pale... which is a complaint many had... and no way to change it... for printing... thus the outside programs... After I do some rough playing with this one for results visually, I will grab a few more and try joining them up with some to the north of the first...
using an image editor...

The big problem is seeing names and such... paper doesn't zoom in and out like images do... that led to my using the camera or cell phone method... just get them to the size you need and in the device... I often have an area shot for getting to the area... then a closer image of the area... and then a zoomed shot for the close in trails... and when I know how to get there, I do a matching 'satellite' shot that may or not be... I prefer the term ground photo... but it doesn' matter.. except for the final approach but seeing landmarks is handy...

Good luck

Oh! I don't mind 7 for brevity... but the trail name is 7rxc... it's the last part of my HAM callsign... VE7RXC which I cut down for brevity... hah! From BC Canada.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978355 by MissMoon
Aug 14, 2019 9:07pm
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As Kirbert says it isn't about using the maps... but even non members can browse around the map that is displayed... you just can't contribute... and YOU are the search engine... eg If I want to see a map of something in say Georgia, USA... I would probably just pan the map over that way... but I know where that is and would start at the GA / FL border most times... If I didn't know what was what, I might spend a few minutes on GEarth or Gmaps and search the general area with there search tools... make a few notes and then look up the maps... but you will still have to do it... I don't recall a location search, but I've been off of OSM for a while...other than lunch today... many map sites also show their product with OSM as an option for map formats... but it is confusing for sure the first few times til you get the hang of it... it is all documented but you have to try a few placements first... for adding things. It is not that hard... I did it.. but for screen shots of really local maps for printing or viewing... that is easy.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978356 by Kirbert
Aug 14, 2019 9:18pm
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But Google Maps clearly uses OSM data in their maps! I've entered stuff before to have it not only appear on OSM maps but appear on Google Maps as well.

Yes, that was evident even 10 years back when I started contributing to OSM database... most of the time, not even a full day went by... just to be sure, I misnamed one street I added from tracks... of several. When it showed the next day, there was the typo... gotcha... Still like I said, lots of tricks to getting the data out, but not hard to get in with a bit of practice... some of the tools are a bit misleading... and also a bit frustrating to go to their expected level of accuracy in location and usage... (say 2 lane pave vs 2 lane gravel etc.) only to find that for my GPS, I can only see a generic road... problem is my GPS though, not the Map.
I did one for a friend for his GPS, routable TYP... looked good and worked... took me by surprise though... was expecting a line route... but also got speech directions... (that was from garmin.openstreetmap.nl )
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978360 by 7rxc
Aug 14, 2019 9:26pm
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I know where that is and would start at the GA / FL border most times.

So, Florida Georgia Line?
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978351 by 7rxc
Aug 14, 2019 9:32pm
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Might get a simple cellular radiotelephone though.

Personally, I have a radiotelegraph. There is nothing like the feel of a metal key between your fingers. And the di-di-di-dit di-dit of a message coming it. Ahhhhh! The nostalgia. ;-)
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978362 by Oberon_Kenobi
Aug 14, 2019 9:38pm
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Works for me...! I always went from GA to FL being from Toronto originally... but if that truck is going the other way... I can do that... we did have to go home didn't we...
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978363 by Oberon_Kenobi
Aug 14, 2019 9:43pm
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We just used a key for CW on shortwave... but yah! let's hear it for straight keys...
but if you were using RF keying, it paid big time to have insulated knobs on there... big surprise sometimes as to where RF energy travels on metal...
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978350 by Sagacorn
Aug 15, 2019 3:35am
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Hi Sagacorn!
I am not sure if this is helpful, but one thing I found is if you select the Share button (little square with arrow curved to the right) and then select Download, the OSM map you see on the computer screen will be downloaded to your computer and will be opened with the program you have on your computer that reads png files. (For me I have my computer set up to open png files with IrfanView.) From that program you might be able to print. Just a thought... :-)
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978363 by Oberon_Kenobi
Aug 15, 2019 6:37am
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Personally, I have a radiotelegraph. There is nothing like the feel of a metal key between your fingers.

You young whippersnappers and your newfangled devices. I won’t dare leave the house without my radio-smoke-signal sender. There is nothing like the feel of bark between your fingers and the smell of burning wood to lead you to the next letterbox. Ahhh...
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978372 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Aug 15, 2019 6:55am
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You young whippersnappers and your newfangled devices. I won’t dare leave the house without my radio-smoke-signal sender. There is nothing like the feel of bark between your fingers and the smell of burning wood to lead you to the next letterbox. Ahhh...

bahahahahaaaa

Good one.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978356 by Kirbert
Aug 15, 2019 7:05am
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Google Maps even includes property lines in some areas, which is great when you're off-road.

I love the fact that Google Maps seems to have almost any cemetery I want to find, even the tiny and obscure ones. (findagrave.com has been changed and "upgraded" - don't care for the search and mapping much anymore)

What I don't like with Google Maps is being able to only enter 10 locations on a route. There's a way to enter more....but I haven't been able to make it work even watching the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlmUJ8-KQ5o
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978374 by MissMoon
Aug 15, 2019 8:59am
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Thanks for that... re youtube tutorial... I tried it and also failed, but on re watching I think I see the problem... but I'm out of time this morning and late... I'll be back.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978356 by Kirbert
Aug 15, 2019 10:16am
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On my phone, I use MAPS.ME which allows me to save state maps on the SD card and therefore not have to download data every time I want to use it. This is helpful out in the woods where I can't get reception.

I've also started using MAPS.ME for hiking because it works great off line and there already a lot of major trails in their system (unlike Google Maps). You can create a Google MyMap with parking, trails, LB locations, etc., export that as a kml, then email the kml file to yourself. Open it up on your phone, and everything is right there. You don't need to have cell service for it to work. For some of the longer distance trails, it's come in quite handy.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978367 by roo
Aug 15, 2019 10:36am
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if you select the Share button (little square with arrow curved to the right) and then select Download, the OSM map you see on the computer screen will be downloaded to your computer and will be opened with the program you have on your computer that reads png files.

That's the little square with arrow curved to the right on the toolbar at the right edge of the screen.

The default is png, but you can change it to jpg if you prefer. The image it brings up is printable in Irfanview.
Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978378 by Kirbert
Aug 15, 2019 11:17am
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check out Flopps Maps for one of the best online tools for simple mapping (that I know of, but really I have not tried that many, I just like this one)
you can switch between google maps, google sat, OSM, and a couple others. You can drop and label multiple pins. cannot do routes.
https://www.flopp-caching.de/
Apparently, I Saw Ryan Yesterday
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Aug 15, 2019 11:44am
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'Twas heading to the National Zoo in D.C. yesterday when I saw what had to be Ryan directly in front of me.

https://www.atlasquest.com/images/gallery/14/76/147658lg.jpg
Re: Apparently, I Saw Ryan Yesterday
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #978380 by Blaze On
Aug 15, 2019 11:56am
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A sighting! Haha
Re: Apparently, I Saw Ryan Yesterday
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #978380 by Blaze On
Aug 15, 2019 12:42pm
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And green, even.
Re: Where to leave a hitchhiker
Board: Hitchhikers, Cooties, and Fleas
Reply to: #977953 by TeachJR
Aug 15, 2019 1:24pm
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I love this idea. I thought about making a HH Hostel and asking our local coffee shop or another local library if we could place it there. I wanted to do a box stamp with it and love the idea of calling it an innkeeper, Great word!
New Tracker--Hello Kitty
Board: LTC: Trades and Trackers
Aug 15, 2019 2:03pm
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Re: Apparently, I Saw Ryan Yesterday
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #978382 by Topcollector
Aug 15, 2019 4:11pm
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"Nodding" 🐢
Re: Where to leave a hitchhiker
Board: Hitchhikers, Cooties, and Fleas
Reply to: #978383 by The Mischievous Four
Aug 15, 2019 5:39pm
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Bama Beach Bum and I made our 1st HH hostel & stocked it with a traditional stamp & a few starter HHs. After only being out 6 months & in a good park location, in the woods bordering the river, low & behold the park people decide to do a MAJOR park redo. They brought in a Bobcat & cleaned all the underbrush about 150 foot in the woods.
Yep, you guessed it. Our 1st hostel was a casualty of park expansion. Sadly, no idea which HHs were in it.
But, we persevere & plan another hostel. Maybe it will fair better.
One Does Not Simply Walk Into Mordor
Board: Yakking It Up
Aug 15, 2019 8:18pm
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