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Re: If only someone had told me about letterboxing....
Board: Yakking It Up
Reply to: #973843 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Apr 5, 2019 7:24pm
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We did it for our event last november and it had so many cool reactions Bobbie in our group thought about it... And we even carved a poop emoji to go on it
Re: If only someone had told me about letterboxing....
Board: Yakking It Up
Reply to: #973843 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Apr 5, 2019 7:27pm
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Re: If only someone had told me about letterboxing....
Board: Yakking It Up
Reply to: #973852 by Moms_Play
Apr 5, 2019 7:47pm
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Ha ha love it! Thanks for sharing that. Brilliant.

But I was referring to the duck. ;~)
Re: Re:
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973847 by Oberon_Kenobi
Apr 5, 2019 10:09pm
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For those who won't look at the discussion before posting, just to be clear

the first quote....

Yes! We don't want to further confuse the apparently easily confuzzled folks from the other scavenger hunt sport.

.....was from dingus dufus........not me

All I did was throw in some merriment by
snorting and guffawing

And I quite enjoyed snorting and guffawing, thank you very much.
Re: Re:
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973854 by MissMoon
Apr 5, 2019 11:00pm
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I certainly didn't mean to imply that you wrote both things. That is why I separated them into two different quote blocks. However, I should have been clear about who wrote what.

And I quite enjoyed snorting and guffawing, thank you very much.

I'm sure that you do.
Problem Creating New Trip Route
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Apr 6, 2019 6:41am
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My son graduates from Navy Office Candidate School over Memorial Day weekend and we decided to drive out for the event and box along the way. As a premium member I thought I'd create a new trip route and search for letterboxes along the route. I started by listing the origin and destination and then a name for the route and then I got to the map where I could modify the route but I cannot seem to get past that point. When I click NEXT PAGE it takes me to the Unauthorized Page instead of the Restrictions Page. Here is the URL of the page I get to:

https://www.atlasquest.com/trips/add/restrictions.php?viewId=c91673d03e452eebff793acdbe4ecc3f

and here is some of the text on that page:

Unauthorized
You are unauthorized to view that page. The FBI have been notified and will be calling shortly. (Just kidding about the FBI, but you are unauthorized to view that page.)

If I click SAVE instead of NEXT it appears to work and saves my route so I guess I'm okay and I wasn't planning to add any restrictions but I am not sure if I've missed any other important steps in the trip creation process.
Unable to create .GPX file of all boxes along a route
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Apr 6, 2019 7:09am
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Okay, I created a new trip from Arlington, Tx to Newport, RI and searched for boxes along the route and AQ found around 1300 boxes. Great! However, when I try to view these on the map in AQ I can only see the first 100 boxes on the trip. If I select page 2 of the search results I can then see boxes #101 - 200. Okay, fine. I understand that limitation.

Now, I am trying to export the boxes to the GPS in my car and, again, it only creates a file of the first 100 boxes, however, I cannot figure out how to get it to create another file with the next hundred boxes, etc. Even if the search results page is displaying boxes 101 thru 200 if I click on GPX box to create a .GPX file it only creates a file of boxes 1 - 100.

The CSV button creates a file of all 1267 boxes in the search results but the GPX button does not. If there is a limitation of 100 boxes per file then I would like it to create a separate file for each set of 100 boxes up to the number of boxes in my search results.
Re: Russian Doll
Board: Television: After the Show Ends
Reply to: #973850 by Captain Slick Kitty
Apr 6, 2019 3:55pm
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Have you seen You? I just read the book AND watched the Netflix series, very interesting especially after watching The Ted Bundy Tapes (serial killers-stalkers)

-Amanda from Seattle
Re: Russian Doll
Board: Television: After the Show Ends
Reply to: #973858 by Amanda from Seattle
Apr 6, 2019 5:28pm
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My boyfriend and I just finished watching You We both found it incredibly enjoyable. It was hard to stop watching it, and we would recommend it to EVERYONE! We haven't watched Russian Doll yet, so we'll add it to our list of TV shows to watch after we finish Blue Planet II.
Re: Happy Cake Day to...
Board: State: Michigan
Reply to: #973849 by Angel Winks
Apr 6, 2019 5:59pm
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Thank you!
Visiting Charleston
Board: State: South Carolina
Apr 6, 2019 6:12pm
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Hello South Carolina -

I am about to head your way and was looking for suggestions on things to do in Charleston. I will be there April 7 through April 18.

Also, if anyone is willing and able to meet up - please let me know. I will be working weekdays from 8 to 5 - but free in the evenings and the weekend.

Thanks so much!
GypsyLadybug / Tina
Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Apr 7, 2019 3:56am
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Recently I was contacted by a boxer who found many of a carefully planned and well hidden series left visible. They kindly rehid them completely out of sight. I then went to check on another series yesterday that also had several left completely showing. Does anyone else have that problem? I went to a lot of time and effort to hide extremely well and specifically said in my clues to make sure to rehide well. Why do boxers do this? To make it easier for the next? Is it just carelessness in their part? I would rather just pull the series than have them lost due to carelessness. I haven’t planted in several years and was excited about planting again. Ninety new boxes in a month. That’s a lot of time, money, gas and effort spent just to end up losing them. I want people to enjoy them - but if people can’t take a few seconds to make sure they are totally hidden I’ll jist collect up all 90 new boxes and go home. It’s jist so frustrating and disappointing. Rant over.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973863 by Sirius Star Gazer
Apr 7, 2019 4:03am
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That's why I now begin my clues with this.

LETTERBOXING REMINDER (especially if you are new to the hobby)
It is so important to completely cover the letterbox after returning it to its hiding spot. Especially if boxing with children (and I'm so glad you are!), please check to be sure the box is returned and covered properly. Thank you for keeping this letterbox well-hidden for the next finder.

I have found that many new letterboxers just don't understand and it may not be done intentionally. So the short reminder has helped, in my opinion. I am having fewer of my boxes go missing. I also note the correct color in the clues to help maintain the integrity of the stamp. Many letterboxers just use one stamp pad and the noted color helps teach them a bit more about the hobby, I believe.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973863 by Sirius Star Gazer
Apr 7, 2019 4:15am
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Unfortunately, there are always letterboxers out there that don't rehide well. Knowing this, I mostly plant in the woods, a bit off the trail. That way, if the box is exposed, it's less likely to be seen by a muggle passing by.
Box of the Week
Board: Region: Northeast
Apr 7, 2019 4:34am
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Congrats to RIClimber for the box of the week!
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973863 by Sirius Star Gazer
Apr 7, 2019 4:43am
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This has been a very sore spot for me as well.

Like a previous poster, I now always emphasize rehiding properly.

Sadly I have found, more than once (since I'm a child at heart and my boxes tend to reflect and attract that), that the best thing I can do is to impress on brownie/GS/CS leaders the absolute importance of making sure they supervise their charges on the proper return/rehiding of boxes as well.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973863 by Sirius Star Gazer
Apr 7, 2019 4:55am
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Makes me think that people who don't hide them back well must be newer to the hobby or LBers who haven't carved and hidden any (or many) plants of their own yet ... or they'd understand the need better. I've found some just sitting out in the open and been like "Wow, this thing's lucky to be here at all." I don't ALWAYS assume it's a person that left it out, however, because sometimes at the base of a tree could get messed with by a critter .. or out in the middle of the leaves could have been the result of a massive wind storm (had a lot of those lately). Either way ... frustrating ... we can only try to take care of them as we go.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973863 by Sirius Star Gazer
Apr 7, 2019 5:55am
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When I started receiving find notices that said "box was left out in the open", I also started noticing that the last finders were Scouts. I hate that this is true but I know that so many scout troops are taken on letterboxing adventures by people who know nothing about the game. Three FLAmigos and I have talked about this endlessly. The kids get all excited about finding a treasure, then they show a friend what they found and they show a friend...and no one has explained to them the proper ettiquette for our hobby. So, reluctantly, I added restrictions to all of my boxes for the first time in the 16 years I have been boxing. We will see if that will help prevent future issues.

That being said, there are also other reasons boxes can be found uncovered. This winter, I hurriedly planted a couple of boxes on days that were really cold. No one had found them and the guilt set in on me that I probably hadn't planted them as carefully as I should have. So when I went back to check on them, they were uncovered, whether by weather or critters, I don't know but the issue was my fault and no one else's.

My question to you is...are you sure that you placed them in a hiding spot that is easy to replace and recover and that rain, wind, melting snow or critters won't uncover? It may not necessarily be a careless human that left them in the open.
Re: Box of the Week
Board: Region: Northeast
Reply to: #973866 by mudflinginfools
Apr 7, 2019 5:58am
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Congrats! And I just noticed the Paws got BOTW last week, so congrats to them as well!! That's one of my favorite boxes!
Re: Easter Tree
Board: State: Pennsylvania
Reply to: #973367 by lotus
Apr 7, 2019 6:35am
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Just letting you know that the eggs are on the tree and ready to find!! They will be available until 5/6 :) have fun!!
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973869 by Janila
Apr 7, 2019 6:46am
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Sometimes, I will find a fair number of boxes poorly rehidden, and the logbooks typically will have the same last finder. How does one politely address the possibility they did not rehide properly?
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973872 by Mama Stork
Apr 7, 2019 7:12am
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How does one politely address the possibility they did not rehide properly?

Good question, hope someone has an answer. My restrictions should limit the groups that I have had the most trouble with going forward but doesn't help those that have already found my boxes. I know of a very well known prolific boxer who is one of the worst replacers of boxes that I have ever followed but really doubt that anything has ever been addressed directly with them. I don't know that there is a good way to handle it.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973863 by Sirius Star Gazer
Apr 7, 2019 7:23am
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I've always found that folks that make the effort to solve a box with a mystery clue also always make the effort to be stealthy while searching & they rehide it well after.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973869 by Janila
Apr 7, 2019 7:37am
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I have placed small bottle and pouch containers sometimes in a place that could have been wind or critter uncovered, but for the most part yes I can say my plants have been carefully considered to make sure they are not uncovered by wind or animals because I know that can happen. But when I have placed a box under a good sized rock and come back to see it only half covered and hanging out, or I’ve placed one in a crevice behind a rock and the rock is totally moved and the box can be seen I’m sure it’s not animals. I also placed some in the base of trees under rocks (I tend to use a lot of rocks LOL) and the box is sitting out on TOP of the rock. Another good one was a box I placed under a light pole “skirt” I found it like 3/4 of the way under the skirt and the end hanging out. I use wire hangers for pouches in bushes because I know they can fall out in windy conditions. But then to know I placed it arms length in the center of a bush and come back to find it hanging just barely covered on the end of a branch, those are ones just not placed back properly.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973872 by Mama Stork
Apr 7, 2019 7:44am
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Good question. We were boxing in a cemetery and the boxer before us who logged them earlier in the day had left all of them sticking out. We rehid them but then I messaged the owner of the boxes that they should check their boxes because we had found so many not hidden well. Right or wrong? I don’t know but I agree a negligent boxer should somehow be told they need to be more careful.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973876 by Sirius Star Gazer
Apr 7, 2019 7:59am
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I messaged the owner of the boxes that they should check their boxes because we had found so many not hidden well. Right or wrong?

A right in my book.

When you are the owner of the boxes, I think a nicely worded FYI to recent finders, who logged the finds both electronically and in the paper logbook, about being thrilled people are finding the boxes (the whole purpose of the planting) and finding the boxes uncovered makes sense. The wording doesn't need to be accusatory, but matter of fact as to what was discovered. Then asking for their input as to ways to help be sure the boxes are covered/rehidden puts them in a position to be helpers while subtely reminding everyone of the goal to have these hidden. Doing this as well as notes of education in the box about hiding better then found may support those who don't know better. If one finds they are sending the same FYIs to certain boxers, then other measures can be looked at (more direct asking, a quiet wrench to the skull, etc) ;)
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973863 by Sirius Star Gazer
Apr 7, 2019 8:13am
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We were at a crowded event where people were boxing in groups, the usual. Some ladies came up to us and chewed us out completely about leaving the boxes open and the stamps on the ground, and told us how rude we were, etc. Only it wasn't us. There were two of us and two big groups between those ladies and us. But I guess they saw us making good time and figured we only did it because we were lazy, not because we weren't bogged down. We fumed about it all weekend, but really, at least they had the guts, however misguided, to try and do something about the problem. As someone who's been on the receiving end of unfair criticism, I'd still say shoot a letter to the last finder, but at least be polite about it. Or maybe if you're close, even offer to go out and find a box or two with them to see their rehiding skills in person and give a couple of nice, friendly pointers.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973878 by PiggyJaunt
Apr 7, 2019 8:34am
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I'd still say shoot a letter to the last finder, but at least be polite about it.

Extra polite since lots of people don't log their finds and you might insult a boxer who hid everything correctly, logged the finds and then a "non logger" came by afterwards and didn't properly rehide the boxes.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973869 by Janila
Apr 7, 2019 8:52am
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Just yesterday we went out and relocated a few boxes that we had planted during January for the Bean event. They had been planted with snow banks around - and were now in very exposed locations... they are safe again and in better locations now that the snow cover is minimal :)

A more concerning issue arose during that. During that event - someone went after my purple diamond box... even though it was probably a very bad time to get it and cracked the box. They reported that the box had a hole in it. Didn't have anything to replace it. I would have rather they had brought the box to me - as we were seeing each other at my own event.

Alas - the box stayed out as the snow melted... later another boxer found it and reported that the box was damaged - but they tucked the contents into a bag and tucked it into the location.

When I pulled the box yesterday - the whole side of the box was gone. Not a small hole - the whole long side of the box. The plastic bag was on the outside - and the contents were completely destroyed.

Honestly - if you damage a box of mine - just own up to it and PULL my box if you can't replace it and put it back safely. You can ship me the contents... I know accidents happen... I too have broken a box. I - for the record - am no longer allowed to use a trowel in the winter. We had a box and could replace it.

I'd rather my damaged box get pulled than have it destroyed because it was left out in the open.
Re: Leaving boxes uncovered
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #973878 by PiggyJaunt
Apr 7, 2019 9:03am
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I can guess the event ;) Thus one more reason for me to step out of hosting events. But that aside - being gutsy does not exclude being polite. Jumping to conclusions can create unnecessary animosity amongst like minded souls.

Even at large events - when boxes are not properly hidden - even knowing many others might be hot on your heels - there still could be a muggle that steps in and grabs that which is exposed due to lack of properly replacing the box.

When we group box insert Teacup's moan here we go with - the one that pulled it, replaces it. Hopefully better than they found it. But in the jovialness that comes with group boxing - sometimes the finer details do sadly get missed.

Yesterday - we went out and found two solo plants. Both were exposed - not due to the last finder - but more likely due to changing weather conditions. And when I had my son return them - I reminded him both times, to add extra coverage. His response to me was "Really Mom? Like I'm new to this?? I know that and they are really covered." Habits taught early sometimes do carry forward.