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Re: board messages
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971664 by Gypsy Fiddler
Feb 17, 2019 6:14pm
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when I see your posts, your sig stamp pic is upside down! Not sure if it's a glitch

Yeah, that probably happened because you installed your monitor upside-down. If you turn it right-side-up, it should fix the problem. ;o)

-- Ryan
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971666 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 6:24pm
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I was very happy with things the way they were. Being fast is not always being best. Just my humble opinion.
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971668 by Acorns4u
Feb 17, 2019 6:30pm
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Being fast is not always being best.

You say that now, but if AQ took 10 seconds to load every page, you'd probably find it very annoying. It wasn't that bad--but I'm not going to wait until it's so bad that people complain before doing something about it either.

I'm not trying to make queries that take 1/10th of a second run in 1/100th of a second that nobody would even notice. I'm fixing the queries that take several seconds to run. And in the worst case, these tended to range from about 10 to 13 seconds. That's not acceptable. Any query that takes more than about 1 second to run gets a hard look by me, but 10+ seconds? It had to go.

-- Ryan
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971669 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 6:47pm
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My problem is that there is still no way to see the entire list of finds in the logbook or search. I tried the advanced search but it only shows 2500, and I'm assuming those are random. I think that the biggest complaint was that we couldn't sort (not search) and see our whole list of finds anymore, but I might be wrong. We can sort by newest, oldest, owner ... but if you can't see the whole list, and you're getting random results, then what is the point of sorting? I'm really not trying to be difficult and do appreciate you trying to please all of us.

Example: In my logbook, LTCs, I set it to search all by newest first. The first LTCs it shows are from 2017, so I miss 2018 and 2019 completely.
Re: Newbies and Oldies
Board: LTC: Tips, Questions, and Stuff
Reply to: #969950 by aMAZEing adventure frog
Feb 17, 2019 6:52pm
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Thank you! Techniques, yes please!
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971670 by Topcollector
Feb 17, 2019 7:05pm
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My problem is that there is still no way to see the entire list of finds in the logbook or search.

It seems like there's a couple of things going on here. One is being able to search for a particular box one has found. Another is being able to see the complete list of one's finds.

Regarding the second thing, it used to be that your plants and finds were displayed in order, 100 per page, and you could get a complete list by going through the pages. Now they're displayed by year. If you have fewer than 500 finds in a year, you'll get the complete list for that year, but if you exceeded 500 finds you won't.

For my own logbook finds I've only got one year, where I exceeded 500, 2018 with 503. I was just looking at that, and it made me feel a little uncomfortable. All but 3 of my finds for the year were showing, but which 3 weren't? The first 3? The last 3? Some random 3? I wouldn't know how to search for them because I wouldn't know what I was missing (unless I checked my paper logbooks).

Would it be possible to add a month field next to the year field to help with the logbook display? Most people don't exceed 500 finds in a month, although I know some people do.
Re: Host gifts
Board: LTC: Trades and Trackers
Reply to: #971661 by LROSEM
Feb 17, 2019 7:10pm
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I look at it as a two-way thing. The host tends to host a theme that she/he likes. And the participants join because they either like the theme or they like the hosts and would like to support that host by filling the tracker. If it wasn't for the participants there would be no host. And likewise if there was no host there would be no participants. It's kind of like what came first, the chicken or egg?

So...a participant gift is always a nice touch... ;-)
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971670 by Topcollector
Feb 17, 2019 7:29pm
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GT wrote:
That's not acceptable. Any query that takes more than about 1 second to run gets a hard look by me, but 10+ seconds? It had to go.

Topcollector wrote:
My problem is that there is still no way to see the entire list of finds in the logbook or search. I tried the advanced search but it only shows 2500, and I'm assuming those are random.

What is done on another geolocation game (that shall remain nameless) is that the list of all your finds (with logs) can be run once every three days. A request to generate this list can be queued. Once completed this query is ready to download. The results of the query are available for download for a week. If a query is queued again the results replace the previous results of the query.

Perhaps this is a compromise that can be done. Other numbers can be used here, probably lengthening the time between queries.
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971672 by Dawnkey
Feb 17, 2019 8:01pm
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Now they're displayed by year. If you have fewer than 500 finds in a year, you'll get the complete list for that year, but if you exceeded 500 finds you won't.

Actually, my original version did show all of the finds from that year. It wasn't ideal (some people have a few thousand finds in a single year) which is still a rather slow query (and possibly a very long-loading page), but at least there was an actual limit in the form of the end of the year.

Now that there's an additional way to narrow down searches, there's less need to depend solely on the year to filter results, so I added same 500 box limit that the "all years" option had to everything. The queries run faster.

Would it be possible to add a month field next to the year field to help with the logbook display?

I'm going to wait on this idea. At that point, I'd rather just let people put a "start date" and "end date" and include up to 500 boxes between the two because some people could invariably prefer to see an entire year, others might want to see a specific month or week or whatever. Maybe that's the better option.

-- Ryan
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971674 by Oberon_Kenobi
Feb 17, 2019 8:09pm
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What is done on another geolocation game (that shall remain nameless) is that the list of all your finds (with logs) can be run once every three days.

That's actually very interesting. So apparently they've run into the same problem AQ has been having. That's a surprising "fix" to the problem, though. I wouldn't have thought of that idea in a million years.

A request to generate this list can be queued. Once completed this query is ready to download.

If you just want to download an entire list of your finds, I already did that. Check the bottom of your profile page. =) No queue necessary! No wait needed!

Generating a long list like that that doesn't require sorting and processing.... it runs pretty fast. All these features people want on their logbooks.... it slows things down a lot. So the download is very basic, bare-bones stuff--but it's a complete list of plants, finds and attempts. I'll probably add some other options in the future (carves, donations, owned, etc.) but those hadn't been as much of a priority for me.

-- Ryan
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971666 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 8:17pm
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I also renamed the "500 limit" to "all" years since that appeared to cause some confusion. There's still a limit, though. That hasn't changed.

Is there a way that you could have a setting to change the default view to the most current year rather than all? Or even better if you could add a setting that people could set the default view however they prefer?
Re: Host gifts
Board: LTC: Trades and Trackers
Reply to: #971661 by LROSEM
Feb 17, 2019 8:22pm
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a host(ess) gift is always a nice touch

Just to clarify for anyone new-ish to LTC trackers, hostess gifts do NOT include wine, homemade cakes or pastries, vases of flowers, or the like :-) Participants sometimes include 1 or 2 LTC’s, quisps, etc. from their own stash of extras, or maybe a few extra postage stamps for the host to use on future trackers. It’s a nice gesture used to thank the host, but is always optional.
In reverse, some hosts will include an extra LTC of their own, in the participants’ envelopes when they return the tracker cards. Again, it’s optional, a nice gesture to thank the participants in your tracker.
When I first started making cards, I didn’t have a “stash” to use for gifts, so I would send a few extra postage stamps and a “thank you for hosting” note. When I have hosted, I’ve made two cards in the theme, one for my tracker card, and a second as a bonus for my participants.
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971676 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 8:28pm
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If you just want to download an entire list of your finds, I already did that. Check the bottom of your profile page. =) No queue necessary! No wait needed!

Ah, didn’t know that existed! I don’t scroll past my “interview”.

AND, That’s the most comforting thing I’ve read concerning the on-line logbook. As long as I can access the complete list somewhere, I’m happy. For info on my individual finds, I will continue to use the search options available in the Letterboxes dropdown.
Re: My Logbook Finds - alphabetically
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #971607 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 9:09pm
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Look for links to download finds, plants and attempts at the bottom of your profile page.

Cool feature!

Typo noted: When you click the 'finds' option, it saves the file as "plants". It really is the finds list, though.
Re: My Logbook Finds - alphabetically
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #971680 by BaliWho
Feb 17, 2019 10:30pm
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When you click the 'finds' option, it saves the file as "plants". It really is the finds list, though.

Thanks! It's been fixed! =)

-- Ryan
Re: Host gifts
Board: LTC: Trades and Trackers
Reply to: #971661 by LROSEM
Feb 17, 2019 11:21pm
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An example please, of what would be an appropriate gift?
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971675 by Green Tortuga
Feb 18, 2019 3:56am
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I'd rather just let people put a "start date" and "end date" and include up to 500 boxes between the two because some people could invariably prefer to see an entire year, others might want to see a specific month or week or whatever. Maybe that's the better option.

I like the date range idea.
Unlisted finds
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Feb 18, 2019 4:50am
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I have a lot of finds from LBNA that I logged as unlisted since they are not on AQ. I could scroll through my logbook alphabetically before to find them since I didn't know the year. I tried an advanced search but the Owner is not listed as a member of AQ. Without going through each year, how do I easily locate them now?
Thank you.
Re: Unlisted finds
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971684 by Teacup
Feb 18, 2019 5:17am
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Having "unlisted" as a filter type on the profile page would be great!
Re: Unlisted finds
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971684 by Teacup
Feb 18, 2019 5:20am
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Teacup,

Couldn't you just do the same thing and select "all" for the year?

[Edit] Oh I see now that it is limited to 500. Is that the issue?

Larry
Re: Sky 2019
Board: State: Connecticut
Reply to: #971643 by gsgeek
Feb 18, 2019 5:34am
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Re: updates on AQ
Board: State: Connecticut
Reply to: #971630 by Quarry
Feb 18, 2019 5:48am
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You can go to asvanced search and enter your trail name in the finder field. What you get is an aphabetecial list of all your finds. You can then use edit search to order or sort those boxes anyway you want. Including by tags, watches, plant date, last found. It's a much better way of searching for boxes you found or planted or attempted than endlessley scrolling in a log book

This does not include unlisted finds.
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971676 by Green Tortuga
Feb 18, 2019 5:51am
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It doesn't download into any recognizable organization on my computer, just what appears to be an AQ #, a name and hashtags. It's all finds, no matter LTC, traditional ... No dates. I can't figure out how that would be useable.
Re: updates on AQ
Board: State: Connecticut
Reply to: #971688 by Trailhead Tessie
Feb 18, 2019 5:58am
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What you get is an aphabetecial list of all your finds

Not complete list--only random 2500.
Re: Lock & Locks or...?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #971406 by RDHG
Feb 18, 2019 6:04am
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I buy them on Amazon. Still a little pricey, but can find bulk sets that bring the price down a little compared to buying singles.
Re: Lock & Locks or...?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #971691 by BaliWho
Feb 18, 2019 6:07am
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Thank you, BaliWho. I have been looking at Amazon but have not found a really good deal yet. I will keep looking! :D
Re: Unlisted finds
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971684 by Teacup
Feb 18, 2019 6:18am
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I just looked at my last 100 finds, and 58 of them are 'unlisted'.
Re: Unlisted finds
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971684 by Teacup
Feb 18, 2019 6:22am
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Re-record each unlisted find and place LbNA as the first word in the new title. Then search that word (LbNA). There's your list! Then go through again and delete the old finds. Have fun! 🤡🤓🤔

Try this:
Go to an "all" and ""Owner" search which should show up to 500.
Re: Unlisted finds
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971684 by Teacup
Feb 18, 2019 6:29am
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I've got the same problem. We did some unlisted series this weekend that aren't showing
Re: board messages
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971654 by Green Tortuga
Feb 18, 2019 6:39am
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I liked checking the Boards page to see if there were replies to any of my messages and to see if anyone had clicked funny, agree, interesting, etc. on my messages.

I miss doing that, it made me happy to see them all listed there and helped me procrastinate for a few more minutes. ;)

I think getting a inbox message saying, hey some one replied to your message, is a good idea.

Perhaps a widget is in order? One that lists My recent messages, and replies to me messages, just like what use to be on the Board page.

Back to my coffee now.