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Re: updates on AQ
Board: State: Connecticut
Reply to: #971630 by Quarry
Feb 17, 2019 2:10pm
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thats so complicated. was so much simpler before
Re: board messages
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971651 by mudflinginfools
Feb 17, 2019 2:22pm
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don't know why you switched everyone over to that as the default...

I figured there were probably a lot of people (especially those who don't use the message boards much) who'd like to get notifications of replies--otherwise, they might miss them completely.

Nobody would have noticed the feature if you have to opt-in. Everyone notices if that's the default--but I tried to make it super easy for people to opt out. I figured a minor, one-time inconvenience for a small number of people to opt out was better than an inconvenience for a large number of people that would prefer to use this feature (but would probably never notice the option existed otherwise).

I've gone ahead and removed the text of the message, though, so now there are only links to the board, thread and post. (And settings!)

-- Ryan
Re: board messages
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971654 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 2:45pm
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Well I just want to say that I, for one, appreciate your making the mobile experience better. I’m sure it’s a lot of work and a thankless job. You probably don’t hear from the hundreds (thousands?) of satisfied users.

So thank you.

I still disagree that it’s not a thread based board though... 😉
Re: What do you use to mount a stamp?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #971621 by Kirbert
Feb 17, 2019 3:01pm
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I agree with Kirbert, if your wood warps it’s the wrong kind of wood. I have a sheet of some thin pressboard that works great. Doublesided tape insures even pressings.
Re: Has anyone read about Konmari?
Board: Reading Room
Reply to: #971603 by speedsquare
Feb 17, 2019 3:12pm
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I pick and choose what works for me. The thought of limiting my books to only 30 or so DOES NOT bring joy!!

But, my closet and drawers are wonderful!

We've enjoyed watching her Netflix series
Re: board messages
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971654 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 3:21pm
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that's fair...

I'm still getting used to some of the other setting changes... mostly I use my PC... I primarily use my phone for... let's see... making phone calls and nothing else. I know I'm weird... but I'm old too... so change doesn't come easily :)

I'll adjust... and get used to it just in time for your next update ;)

Thanks Ryan for keeping me PC nimble... the most exercise I get most days!
Re: board messages
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971649 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 3:21pm
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I do like getting them in my mail so I don't have to keep checking back when no one responds.
Host gifts
Board: LTC: Trades and Trackers
Feb 17, 2019 4:38pm
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I just wanted to remind people that when you join an LTC tracker, although not necessary, a host(ess) gift is always a nice touch.
Re: Sky 2019
Board: State: Connecticut
Reply to: #971643 by gsgeek
Feb 17, 2019 4:42pm
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I noticed I couldn’t bring up the map on the phone, but it worked great on the computer :-)
Re: Has anyone read about Konmari?
Board: Reading Room
Reply to: #971658 by Mama Stork
Feb 17, 2019 5:01pm
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That woman is laughing all the way to the bank.

And you can go to one of her seminars for $2700 bucks. Yup, alllllll the way to the bank! lol!!
Re: board messages
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971654 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 5:24pm
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Fyi, Ryan...when I see your posts, your sig stamp pic is upside down! Not sure if it's a glitch, or if you did that on purpose to be silly....just thought I'd let you know!😁
Re: Has anyone read about Konmari?
Board: Reading Room
Reply to: #971658 by Mama Stork
Feb 17, 2019 5:33pm
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30 books will not work for me either. What I like most about her style is to go through clutter by category. I enjoy the memes out there since we don’t have Netflix.
Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Feb 17, 2019 6:13pm
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So I tweaked the logbook again, and those of you who want to search for specific boxes but can't remember the names.... I added a search option to filter results based on the start of the box name.

But... there are compromises which you may or may not like. My goal is to keep the queries running fast, after all. You nudge something in one place, and it pokes out in other places.

To keep the queries running fast, AQ no longer pre-sorts the results before limiting them, so if you have 1000 finds (for instance) and sort them alphabetically, they don't stop at the M's (or whatever is halfway through your list). It more-or-less randomly displays any 500 boxes of the total number of matches like the regular search does. You'll have to narrow down your results if you're looking for a specific box.

I also renamed the "500 limit" to "all" years since that appeared to cause some confusion. There's still a limit, though. That hasn't changed.

And I added limits to all possible search results. It might be your logbook, but it acts more like a search now. Because, based on the feedback I got, people seem to prefer using it as another search option rather than an actual logbook. So I went ahead and changed the code to be more.... search-friendly.

So in a nutshell, it works more like a regular search. Which, for those of you who wanted your logbook to be searchable--will probably like. For those of you who prefer your logbook being a logbook.... you probably won't. And I'm sorry for that.

-- Ryan
Re: board messages
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971664 by Gypsy Fiddler
Feb 17, 2019 6:14pm
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when I see your posts, your sig stamp pic is upside down! Not sure if it's a glitch

Yeah, that probably happened because you installed your monitor upside-down. If you turn it right-side-up, it should fix the problem. ;o)

-- Ryan
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971666 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 6:24pm
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I was very happy with things the way they were. Being fast is not always being best. Just my humble opinion.
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971668 by Acorns4u
Feb 17, 2019 6:30pm
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Being fast is not always being best.

You say that now, but if AQ took 10 seconds to load every page, you'd probably find it very annoying. It wasn't that bad--but I'm not going to wait until it's so bad that people complain before doing something about it either.

I'm not trying to make queries that take 1/10th of a second run in 1/100th of a second that nobody would even notice. I'm fixing the queries that take several seconds to run. And in the worst case, these tended to range from about 10 to 13 seconds. That's not acceptable. Any query that takes more than about 1 second to run gets a hard look by me, but 10+ seconds? It had to go.

-- Ryan
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971669 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 6:47pm
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My problem is that there is still no way to see the entire list of finds in the logbook or search. I tried the advanced search but it only shows 2500, and I'm assuming those are random. I think that the biggest complaint was that we couldn't sort (not search) and see our whole list of finds anymore, but I might be wrong. We can sort by newest, oldest, owner ... but if you can't see the whole list, and you're getting random results, then what is the point of sorting? I'm really not trying to be difficult and do appreciate you trying to please all of us.

Example: In my logbook, LTCs, I set it to search all by newest first. The first LTCs it shows are from 2017, so I miss 2018 and 2019 completely.
Re: Newbies and Oldies
Board: LTC: Tips, Questions, and Stuff
Reply to: #969950 by aMAZEing adventure frog
Feb 17, 2019 6:52pm
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Thank you! Techniques, yes please!
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971670 by Topcollector
Feb 17, 2019 7:05pm
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My problem is that there is still no way to see the entire list of finds in the logbook or search.

It seems like there's a couple of things going on here. One is being able to search for a particular box one has found. Another is being able to see the complete list of one's finds.

Regarding the second thing, it used to be that your plants and finds were displayed in order, 100 per page, and you could get a complete list by going through the pages. Now they're displayed by year. If you have fewer than 500 finds in a year, you'll get the complete list for that year, but if you exceeded 500 finds you won't.

For my own logbook finds I've only got one year, where I exceeded 500, 2018 with 503. I was just looking at that, and it made me feel a little uncomfortable. All but 3 of my finds for the year were showing, but which 3 weren't? The first 3? The last 3? Some random 3? I wouldn't know how to search for them because I wouldn't know what I was missing (unless I checked my paper logbooks).

Would it be possible to add a month field next to the year field to help with the logbook display? Most people don't exceed 500 finds in a month, although I know some people do.
Re: Host gifts
Board: LTC: Trades and Trackers
Reply to: #971661 by LROSEM
Feb 17, 2019 7:10pm
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I look at it as a two-way thing. The host tends to host a theme that she/he likes. And the participants join because they either like the theme or they like the hosts and would like to support that host by filling the tracker. If it wasn't for the participants there would be no host. And likewise if there was no host there would be no participants. It's kind of like what came first, the chicken or egg?

So...a participant gift is always a nice touch... ;-)
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971670 by Topcollector
Feb 17, 2019 7:29pm
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GT wrote:
That's not acceptable. Any query that takes more than about 1 second to run gets a hard look by me, but 10+ seconds? It had to go.

Topcollector wrote:
My problem is that there is still no way to see the entire list of finds in the logbook or search. I tried the advanced search but it only shows 2500, and I'm assuming those are random.

What is done on another geolocation game (that shall remain nameless) is that the list of all your finds (with logs) can be run once every three days. A request to generate this list can be queued. Once completed this query is ready to download. The results of the query are available for download for a week. If a query is queued again the results replace the previous results of the query.

Perhaps this is a compromise that can be done. Other numbers can be used here, probably lengthening the time between queries.
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971672 by Dawnkey
Feb 17, 2019 8:01pm
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Now they're displayed by year. If you have fewer than 500 finds in a year, you'll get the complete list for that year, but if you exceeded 500 finds you won't.

Actually, my original version did show all of the finds from that year. It wasn't ideal (some people have a few thousand finds in a single year) which is still a rather slow query (and possibly a very long-loading page), but at least there was an actual limit in the form of the end of the year.

Now that there's an additional way to narrow down searches, there's less need to depend solely on the year to filter results, so I added same 500 box limit that the "all years" option had to everything. The queries run faster.

Would it be possible to add a month field next to the year field to help with the logbook display?

I'm going to wait on this idea. At that point, I'd rather just let people put a "start date" and "end date" and include up to 500 boxes between the two because some people could invariably prefer to see an entire year, others might want to see a specific month or week or whatever. Maybe that's the better option.

-- Ryan
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971674 by Oberon_Kenobi
Feb 17, 2019 8:09pm
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What is done on another geolocation game (that shall remain nameless) is that the list of all your finds (with logs) can be run once every three days.

That's actually very interesting. So apparently they've run into the same problem AQ has been having. That's a surprising "fix" to the problem, though. I wouldn't have thought of that idea in a million years.

A request to generate this list can be queued. Once completed this query is ready to download.

If you just want to download an entire list of your finds, I already did that. Check the bottom of your profile page. =) No queue necessary! No wait needed!

Generating a long list like that that doesn't require sorting and processing.... it runs pretty fast. All these features people want on their logbooks.... it slows things down a lot. So the download is very basic, bare-bones stuff--but it's a complete list of plants, finds and attempts. I'll probably add some other options in the future (carves, donations, owned, etc.) but those hadn't been as much of a priority for me.

-- Ryan
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971666 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 8:17pm
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I also renamed the "500 limit" to "all" years since that appeared to cause some confusion. There's still a limit, though. That hasn't changed.

Is there a way that you could have a setting to change the default view to the most current year rather than all? Or even better if you could add a setting that people could set the default view however they prefer?
Re: Host gifts
Board: LTC: Trades and Trackers
Reply to: #971661 by LROSEM
Feb 17, 2019 8:22pm
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a host(ess) gift is always a nice touch

Just to clarify for anyone new-ish to LTC trackers, hostess gifts do NOT include wine, homemade cakes or pastries, vases of flowers, or the like :-) Participants sometimes include 1 or 2 LTC’s, quisps, etc. from their own stash of extras, or maybe a few extra postage stamps for the host to use on future trackers. It’s a nice gesture used to thank the host, but is always optional.
In reverse, some hosts will include an extra LTC of their own, in the participants’ envelopes when they return the tracker cards. Again, it’s optional, a nice gesture to thank the participants in your tracker.
When I first started making cards, I didn’t have a “stash” to use for gifts, so I would send a few extra postage stamps and a “thank you for hosting” note. When I have hosted, I’ve made two cards in the theme, one for my tracker card, and a second as a bonus for my participants.
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971676 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 8:28pm
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If you just want to download an entire list of your finds, I already did that. Check the bottom of your profile page. =) No queue necessary! No wait needed!

Ah, didn’t know that existed! I don’t scroll past my “interview”.

AND, That’s the most comforting thing I’ve read concerning the on-line logbook. As long as I can access the complete list somewhere, I’m happy. For info on my individual finds, I will continue to use the search options available in the Letterboxes dropdown.
Re: My Logbook Finds - alphabetically
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #971607 by Green Tortuga
Feb 17, 2019 9:09pm
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Look for links to download finds, plants and attempts at the bottom of your profile page.

Cool feature!

Typo noted: When you click the 'finds' option, it saves the file as "plants". It really is the finds list, though.
Re: My Logbook Finds - alphabetically
Board: Letterboxing Help Desk
Reply to: #971680 by BaliWho
Feb 17, 2019 10:30pm
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When you click the 'finds' option, it saves the file as "plants". It really is the finds list, though.

Thanks! It's been fixed! =)

-- Ryan
Re: Host gifts
Board: LTC: Trades and Trackers
Reply to: #971661 by LROSEM
Feb 17, 2019 11:21pm
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An example please, of what would be an appropriate gift?
Re: Logbook Tweak
Board: Atlas Quest Announcements
Reply to: #971675 by Green Tortuga
Feb 18, 2019 3:56am
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I'd rather just let people put a "start date" and "end date" and include up to 500 boxes between the two because some people could invariably prefer to see an entire year, others might want to see a specific month or week or whatever. Maybe that's the better option.

I like the date range idea.