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Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979362 by Wry Me
Sep 11, 2019 7:45am
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Or fart in the elevator.

"One must never own up to a fart in public. That is the unwritten law, the single most stringent protocol of American etiquette. Farts come from no one and nowhere; they are anonymous emanations that belong to the group as a whole, and even when every person in the room can point to the culprit, the only sane course of action is denial."
~The Brooklyn Follies, by Paul Auster
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979368 by MissMoon
Sep 11, 2019 9:52am
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I prefer to turn and look in the direction of the accused.
It couldn't possibly be me.
I cannot turn and look at myself.
Impossible.
Accordingly, it was someone else.
Re: Code of conduct
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Reply to: #979286 by Mizscarlet
Sep 11, 2019 11:03am
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We should all remember this is a fun hobby with preferred expectations. Everyone interprets "the rules" differently. It is wonderful the hobby continues to gain new letterboxers. We must remember they are new, often excited, and happy to share their new journey.
If a letterbox is being displayed without permission it is best to privately suggest they contact the owner, review the code of conduct, and maybe consider a vague post in place of photos. Some don't understand that others don't want the image spoiled or shared. Educating new boxers politely and privately is better than embarrassing them publicly.
As for creating and selling letterboxes...this is fabulous as well. Many donate and sell their carves to others. The particular boxer "unnamed" is very ethical and dedicated to this hobby. She is a positive influence.
I can't speak for practices of Girl Scouts as i have never been involved. But with anything else...it goes back to the Leader and their guidance.
We need to be a welcoming, accepting community if we wish to encourage and grow this hobby.
Re: Code of conduct
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Reply to: #979370 by GypsyLadybug
Sep 11, 2019 6:03pm
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Yes, above all we need to be kind and welcoming. We might disagree about the details but we should try and remember we were all newbies once.
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979352 by Kirbert
Sep 12, 2019 5:02pm
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It’s a nice kit. The description says it helps fulfill the last requirement for the badge. There are more requirements - four more - before they earn the badge.

I came into letterboxing with my then-Brownie. She’s a second year junior now, with ~400 finds. She’s much more interested in finding the boxes than stamping and carving. Lol. But as a leader, I try to ensure that all the scouts I go out with know the leave no trace principals, and are respectful of boxes and hiding spots too.
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979345 by Grrly Girl
Sep 13, 2019 6:35am
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As a Lifetime Girl Scout, previous Brownie leader, avid letterboxer and facilitator who teachs a letterboxing class to adults and girls - I can tell you that the badge requirements are such that the girls are to create their own stamp not purchase one. Perhaps 1. the folks on Etsy should not market these items and 2. troop leaders should know better than to buy them.
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979361 by Wry Me
Sep 13, 2019 6:38am
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When I teach this to adults, I suggest 1 troop stamp instead of 12 individual stamps. My troop had 1 troop stamp!

It's an education issue.
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979345 by Grrly Girl
Sep 13, 2019 7:03am
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Apparently I need to set up an etsy shop and start selling these!
Help with a trip to London, England
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Sep 13, 2019 7:06am
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My wife, Dusty Walker, is going to London with her mother in October. Her mom will probably be in a wheelchair or a walker for most of their excursions. I don't have an itinerary for her except for London and a trip to Bath; will get more info. I'm looking to provide her with easy to get boxes. AQ's and LbNA's are fairly easy to look up but I would also like her to find a few "real" English boxes while she is there. If you can provide me with any information about London's boxes, I would appreciate it. Hopefully, will provide better logistics soon. You can reply directly to me, but I bet others would find the info helpfull. Happy Hunting & Cheerio
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979411 by NLW
Sep 13, 2019 8:46am
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When I teach Girl Scouts, I always have them make their own stamps (woodblock and foam) and encourage exchanges. And I do suggest to leaders they have a single troop stamp for boxing in the wild. At camp I let them all stamp in and limit the number of boxes with logbooks (one per series), but at the camps I keep up a pretty good maintenance schedule! I also put ink in all the boxes at camp (letting them know this is not typical in the wild) - I think it prevents more problems that way, but again only because I do regular maintenance (and buy ink pads by the gross/case).

LL
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979410 by NLW
Sep 13, 2019 8:47am
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I’ve been shopping on Etsy for years and it’s not like it used to be. It’s gotten much bigger with I think different owners than the original people. Many shop owners are unhappy and many have left. You see items that clearly have copyright issues and unless a shop gets reported Etsy allows it to continue selling. They allow sales of lots of stuff that should not be listed and a ton of stuff that is clearly not handmade or original.
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979366 by photopam
Sep 13, 2019 11:20am
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Haven't been in Girl Scouts in maybe 10 years or more. I had been enrolled in GS for 34 years. I stopped volunteering as a trainer just after the new journeys program started... but I did help teach a mini event for the service unit we are in about letterboxing. Code of conduct was 1st. It went well and we short term planted boxes for them to find. One of the PIA mom's got mad at the Service Unit Manager (my kid) and told the council that we were teaching kids to sneak and hide things from the community. Oh and lie too. She ended up being a campfire leader...LOL
Re: Code of conduct & Brownie Scouts
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Reply to: #979412 by Fantastic Mrs. Fox
Sep 13, 2019 2:23pm
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Seems to me that letterboxers other than Brownie Scouts might be interested. It looks like a good package for any letterboxer who's put off by carving, painting, etc., and just wants to try planting.
Re: Help with a trip to London, England
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Reply to: #979413 by BEBO BEAR
Sep 13, 2019 9:36pm
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I went through the same thing before my last business trip to the UK, but I just couldn’t find much. I am in no way an expert, but it seemed like the letterboxing in England is very region specific, without much action outside those specific areas.

I did find this site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121026230114/http://www.ian.kirkpatrick2.btinternet.co.uk/page1.htm

It’s a bit older, from the internet archive, dating back to 2012. But there might be other resources out there that I just never found.
Re: Help with a trip to London, England
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Reply to: #979424 by Nature Hikers
Sep 13, 2019 9:59pm
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I did find this site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121026230114/http://www.ian.kirkpatrick2.btinternet.co.uk/page1.htm

It’s a bit older, from the internet archive, dating back to 2012. But there might be other resources out there that I just never found.

Yeah, Dartmoor Bounders are no longer maintaining the Off Dartmoor list. He told me who he passed it on to but I think that person is also out of the game since he suggested I could pick it up if interested. I didn't feel I was the best person for that being on the wrong continent and all so never volunteered...
Re: Help with a trip to London, England
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Reply to: #979413 by BEBO BEAR
Sep 14, 2019 3:01pm
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letterboxing in England outside of Dartmoor and the New Forest is very challenging even for folks with no mobility issues. Boxes planted by tourists go missing in London almost immediately.
Even in Dartmoor, you have the pub boxes, but they "don't count" as far as getting your Dartmoor 100 badge.

-Amanda from Seattle
Re: Help with a trip to London, England
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Reply to: #979413 by BEBO BEAR
Sep 17, 2019 6:15am
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Over the past 6 years hubby has been to the UK 6 times and each time I gave him clues to 1 or 2 boxes close to where he would be visiting. Never found one.
Disclaimer, none of the boxes were on hikes, all of them close by or near to popular tourist sites, like Sterling Castle.
Actually make that 5 times, this year he refused to look, said it was a waste of his time, there were cameras everywhere and he was afraid of getting arrested!
Not to say there aren't available boxes, that was just his experience in the urban/tourist destinations he visited.
Re: Help with a trip to London, England
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Reply to: #979525 by Three FLAmigo's
Sep 17, 2019 9:45am
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Thanks, I’ve heard that boxes in the urban areas got “lost” quickly😭. There are a few that have been around and just recently found. She can’t get to the moors with her Mom and she’s not sure of the agenda.(Mom doing tours with your company). Hopefully she’ll get one. Even one from a pub. They might enjoy that.