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Re: Passage of Time
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924364 by Capt Kirk
Apr 13, 2016 4:06pm
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You might try contacting granny butterfly before you do anything. I think she is caretaking many of Safari Man's boxes.

In the meanwhile, why not check up on all your plants, make repairs and update the status on them, so the curious out-of-staters have a reason to return?
Re: Passage of Time
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924369 by speedsquare
Apr 13, 2016 5:51pm
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You might try contacting granny butterfly before you do anything. I think she is caretaking many of Safari Man's boxes.

Yep! Granny Butterfly is Safari Man's sister, and she has inherited his boxes. Tributes and maintenance are always welcome things, but best to check with the owner when doing major overhauls/replacements.
Re: Passage of Time
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924376 by wassamatta u
Apr 13, 2016 5:54pm
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I'm pretty sure Okie Dog is Safari Man's sister. Maybe Granny Butterfly is too?
Re: Passage of Time
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924378 by Boxer Lover47
Apr 13, 2016 6:07pm
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I saw Granny Butterfly listed as the originator of this particular box, and time is so short... if I am to place anything at the location for the out-of-towners who are coming to visit relatives nearby. There is NOTHING left in the location of the letterbox but a pile of brokendown stones. They could be restacked and something "hidden" beneath the topmost stone, to satisfy the printed instructions of the clue. But I don't recall the image of the original stamp and have no desire to take over Safari Man's possessions or boxes. I was only asked about that one location as being easily accessed, and it was one of my first discoveries...and so, in his memory, I want to place something there for the pleasure of another boxer.

I think the listing says the box was "retired" (as was Safari Man "retired")... so I'm not sure how or why the out-of-towners came up with this one. Except I think it's the most accessible to anyone passing by.

**7 Years ago, my son and I stopped at the location and while we were there, someone else was messing with the location of the letterbox. My kids noted it and started to poke about, but I stopped them. 12 months later, we started getting into letterboxing, and I realized that we had seen a "Boxer" uncovering and recovering the pouch with the stamp and all... and that I had denied my kids getting into letterboxing by a year, telling them to leave it alone.
Re: Passage of Time
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924367 by LROSEM
Apr 13, 2016 6:10pm
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Unfortunately, there's no letterbox left there. There's a pile of flat stones that once were stacked to hide the box, but I only know that from memory. The adjacent parking lot has been used as a staging location for the construction of an injection well, and a cell phone tower...so there's no stamp, log book or anything else to repair. That's why I was thinking of just buying a quick stamp and logbook to "hide" there for the imminent arrival of the out-of-town guests.
Re: Passage of Time
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Reply to: #924378 by Boxer Lover47
Apr 13, 2016 6:12pm
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I'm pretty sure Okie Dog is Safari Man's sister.

Oh, gosh, yes, you are right! I got confused there, and my profound apologies to those involved!!
Re: Alternative Mapping
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Reply to: #924362 by Baqash
Apr 13, 2016 6:20pm
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I don't follow.

I can export all the data point from the Google map onto a specific type of file which preserves whatever data you give it and GPS location.

The county map is pretty non exportable besides the maps as far as I'm aware
Re: Passage of Time
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Reply to: #924363 by wassamatta u
Apr 13, 2016 6:29pm
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It's funny, cause I remember SOME of the names of people who have responded to this thread, but most I cannot place...or don't remember the personality behind the "handle" or "trail name". So help me out... Is wassamatta u the sysop? Or was that Green Tortuga? Or are they the same person?

My memory has faded, and I apologize, but that's a problem with getting older. I turned 60 and just don't remember relationships I had any more.
Re: Alternative Mapping
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Reply to: #924385 by Squatchis
Apr 13, 2016 6:41pm
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I was asking if you can export the location data from AQ or if you retyped everything
Re: Alternative Mapping
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924387 by Baqash
Apr 13, 2016 6:47pm
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Retyped everything. I have my own digital log book which I maintain.

Typical logging is as follows.
Log on Aq/lbna
Place pin on map (at as exact a location I can manage)
Determine country based off Google maps if in doubt
Log digital log.
Update county map as needed.
Re: Passage of Time
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Reply to: #924383 by Capt Kirk
Apr 14, 2016 3:34am
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If there is nothing left of the box and it has been marked as "retired", anything you plant would then be a totally new box. While you could certainly place it in the same location, it would really be "your" box at that point. Perhaps you could do a quick plant at this location since it sounds like it has good accessibility for travelers, and then, if you so desire, take a little time to do a nice tribute box for Safari Man. He was well-loved and respected in the letterboxing community and I am sure you could get a donated stamp and logbook if that is not something you would be able to do. (I would be happy to help with either a stamp or logbook).

SpringChick
Can anyone use transparencies for image transfers or LTCs?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Apr 14, 2016 6:19am
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My company is moving tomorrow, and the Great Office Purge has resulted in the discovery of quite a few boxes of transparencies. If anyone is interested and is willing to send me a SASE, I'm happy to share! Please contact me privately. Thanks.
Re: Alternative Mapping
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Reply to: #924387 by Baqash
Apr 14, 2016 8:38am
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I was asking if you can export the location data from AQ

I got the My Maps on Google to accept data exported from AQ. First I did an advanced search of my boxes--apparently only 100 can be done per layer. Then I mapped the results to KMI. After it did its thing I checked my download file and an earth file had appeared with the data. I could edit that file by clicking on the pin I wanted and deleting ones such as mysteries and bonus boxes. I went to My Maps and chose import data and then dragged the earth icon onto the add a layer. It worked.
Re: Alternative Mapping
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924411 by Wronghat
Apr 14, 2016 9:33am
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I got the My Maps on Google to accept data exported from AQ.

Thanks. 100 at a time. guess i'll save it for when i have better service and more time.
Re: Passage of Time
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Reply to: #924396 by SpringChick
Apr 14, 2016 12:36pm
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That's EXACTLY my idea, Spring Chick. I would be honored for any assistance you or others care to provide. I've made a quick plant for this weekend, but would welcome a carved tribute stamp and/or logbook to make this more of a tribute to Glenn/Safari Man. Thank you for your support!
Tutorial on Making Letterbox Pouch (Safari Man's Pics)
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Apr 14, 2016 12:54pm
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Hello everyone,

I've recently learned of the passing some 3 years ago of our beloved "Safari Man". Glenn made a nice sequence of photos to demonstrate how he made letterbox pouches to protect log books, stamps, etc.

Wassamatta U was kind enough to dig this up for me, and I'm going to be using it for inspiration this weekend.

You might enjoy seeing Glenn's process. There are some photos of him as well as his dog assistant.
Share and enjoy!

Here is the Safari Man photo tutorial:
http://www.atlasquest.com/gallery/viewalbum.html?gAlbumId=802;gSortBy=newest
Renewing or Resurrecting "Retired" or "Inactive" Letterboxes
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Apr 14, 2016 12:58pm
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Folk,

It's so easy for an abandoned or forgotten letterbox to be lost or disappear from our memory.

Several of the ones around my area have been lost prior to my entry into the hobby some seven years ago, and since I drifted away five years or more ago, many of mine have gone missing.

Some of us have been discussing the possibility of resurrecting a few key locations.
I'd like to start a discussion about the politics or process of using a location that has gone "missing" or "retired" either by death, abandonment, or forgetfulness.

Would anyone mind if a kindly fallen-away letterboxer renewed a few of the more accessible locations?

Please share your thoughts on this idea.
Re: Renewing or Resurrecting "Retired" or "Inactive" Letterboxes
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924428 by Capt Kirk
Apr 14, 2016 1:24pm
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If the box is long-gone, I don't see any problem with putting a new box at that property. Most of the boxes I plant nowadays are located in a spot that I want to share with other people, so if the old, missing boxes were planted in a great spot, I'd say to go for it!

If nothing of the old box remains, I'd create a new listing. And unless you were the owner of the old box, I wouldn't copy the other person's clues.
Re: Renewing or Resurrecting "Retired" or "Inactive" Letterboxes
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Reply to: #924428 by Capt Kirk
Apr 14, 2016 2:16pm
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I'd like to start a discussion about the politics or process of using a location that has gone "missing" or "retired" either by death, abandonment, or forgetfulness.

I liked the way you made mention of the previous planter and letterbox. I do that as well when I know I'm planting near now defunct letterboxes.
Re: Renewing or Resurrecting "Retired" or "Inactive" Letterboxes
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Reply to: #924428 by Capt Kirk
Apr 14, 2016 2:27pm
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While I agree that there is nothing wrong with putting a box where one previously existed, and that's certainly tempting to do if it is a particularly nice location, I would give some thought to how many 'boxers may have found the previous box -- was it a popular box? was it there for a long time? Would they want to go back to the same place or would it be better to offer up an alternate, equally awesome location?

But, there are always those spots that are "just begging for a box"...

SpringChick
Re: Can anyone use transparencies for image transfers or LTCs?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924400 by Rocklun
Apr 14, 2016 3:49pm
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I have boxes and boxes of them, so I won't be running out anytime soon.

I even have some blue-tinted ones!

To estimate the cost, I put 12 in a 9x12 manila envelope and weighed it. Four Forever stamps will do the trick.
Re: Tutorial on Making Letterbox Pouch (Safari Man's Pics)
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Reply to: #924427 by Capt Kirk
Apr 14, 2016 7:33pm
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Unless you live in a dry climate, I would not recommend using pouches. They are typically wet and full of dirt and bugs. I've seen them used nicely tucked in guardrails, where it's pretty dry and dirt can't get in, and as temporary boxes for an event. Otherwise I consider them to be on par with old Chinese food containers.
Re: Making Letterbox Pouch (Safari Man's Plan)
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Reply to: #924454 by Trailhead Tessie
Apr 14, 2016 8:26pm
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After reviewing his tutorial and gentle humor, I was inspired to try my hand at a few of Safari Man's pouches. One innovation he shared in person, was the incorporation of a coat hanger or insulated electrical wire as a hanging strap.

I have two boxes of my own that would lean toward this application, and so during my dinner hour, I found a feed sack (Lamb and Sheep feed, if you must know) along the side of the road, and retrieved it. I measured out the rough dimensions Glenn had suggested, and cut two patterns out.

I had found my roll of Camo tape and set to work covering and stappling the two together. One wire coat hanger cut in two just so, produced two hanger straps that I was able to incorporate.

So, after finishing in record time, and labling inside the pouch flap with a Sharpie Marker the name of the box and the website for www.Letterboxing.org and www.atlasquest.com
I have two ready to go.

Tonight on my drive home, I plan to plant them in two locations since I brought along a couple of stamps, and activate those boxes tomorrow for any traveling letterboxers who might be on the way.
Re: Tutorial on Making Letterbox Pouch (Safari Man's Pics)
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924454 by Trailhead Tessie
Apr 14, 2016 8:46pm
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I have found letterboxes in pouches that have held up well. Or would that make them letterpouches? Anyway, the ones that are still in good shape are freezer Ziplocs covered with duct tape. The flap folds over where the bag zips, so the contents are protected. Amazingly, the contents were pretty dry.
Re: Can anyone use transparencies for image transfers or LTCs?
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Reply to: #924442 by Rocklun
Apr 14, 2016 8:49pm
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Can one draw on these? Use in place of vellum for layered stamps? Are they clear?
Re: Renewing or Resurrecting "Retired" or "Inactive" Letterboxes
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Reply to: #924433 by SpringChick
Apr 15, 2016 2:05am
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I once found a box -- one of a series -- that was planted in the exact same cubby hole where a previous box had gone missing years before. It wasn't somebody trying to make a tribute, it was just great minds thinking alike.

It does point to a difference, though. The clues were different, and as a result you didn't realize you were being led to the exact same spot until you got there. It made a new hide out of it, even though the hiding spot wasn't new.

So, here's an idea, just tossin' this out there. Don't mention that you're planting in the same spot as a previous box, and don't give the box a similar name. Use all new clues, starting with a clean sheet of paper. In the logbook in the box, mention that this box is in honor of the box that used to be here, and include the image from the earlier box's stamp (printed, perhaps). That would make the find nearly as entertaining for people who found the earlier box as for people who haven't been here before.
Re: Making Letterbox Pouch (Safari Man's Plan)
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924457 by Capt Kirk
Apr 15, 2016 2:11am
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I think the mistake many make in making planter's pouches is starting with a baggie. It seems the thing to do, something with an airtight seal, but in fact it doesn't work well at all.

Safari Man's pouches IIRC went a different route, no baggie involved, just a pouch made of woven feed bag material wrapped with duct tape. While it's not airtight, it did seem to work quite well.

And for hooks, I recommend electrical wire but not coathangers. Coathangers will rust pronto. Electrical wire, being copper, will hang in there forever. Get the stuff with black or green insulation (2 of the 3 wires inside typical household wire) it'll be pretty decent camo.
Re: Can anyone use transparencies for image transfers or LTCs?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924459 by Sunia
Apr 15, 2016 4:57am
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Re: Can anyone use transparencies for image transfers or LTCs?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924472 by Rocklun
Apr 15, 2016 8:09am
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Could they be used to create animation cels?
Re: Can anyone use transparencies for image transfers or LTCs?
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #924488 by dingus dufus
Apr 15, 2016 8:21am
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Could they be used to create animation cels?

I don't know, but I'm thinking of taping a bunch of 'em together to use as a shower curtain. Or maybe I can cut a hole in my roof and make a skylight. The possibilities are endless...especially when I have hundreds of sheets!! ;^)