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Re: Postage question
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #844018 by Sudoku Crazy
May 11, 2014 3:48pm
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I shred it and put it in the compost bin.

I take a black magic marker to all address info and reuse the envelope. It looks messy, but works. REUSE, i say ;)
Re: Prepare Yourself
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845630 by Eevil
May 11, 2014 7:44pm
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Come on...where is Dr. Horrible!? At the very least, you could have included Bad Horse? I'm not sure how evil this league is.
Re: Lyme Disease
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845379 by Bubbaloo Magoo
May 11, 2014 9:02pm
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A rather inappropriate post considered the subject.

Doublesaj and Old Blue
Re: Lyme Disease
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845361 by Yosemite MJD
May 11, 2014 9:36pm
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Good post Yosemite. The bad new for us west-coaster is that now its not just deer tick, but also very common ticks are being found carrying the lyme bacteria. These being the Western Black Legged tick and the Pacific Coast tick.

Old Blue
Re: Prepare Yourself
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845630 by Eevil
May 11, 2014 9:46pm
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Those are all of my heros... who are you??

Red John
DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
May 11, 2014 10:41pm
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I have one box listed as a mystery, a "state mystery" because you know the state but not the town. The clues refer to a particular page of a DeLorme map book, which used to be de rigeur for navigating the smaller roads you have to travel to find letterboxes; I kinda presumed almost everyone had one. Unfortunately, fewer and fewer people use DeLorme map books any more, and I'd hate to have to require a finder to find one (they're increasingly difficult to find) and shell out $20 or so just to find my box.

Do you think I should revise the clues? Hit [Agree] if the clues should be changed, [Disagree] if I should leave them as is.
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845978 by Kirbert
May 11, 2014 10:50pm
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How old is this box? If it has been around for years, I say leave it be. Part of the fun of trying to find older boxes is working out the way things were when the box was planted. Information changes, landmarks come and go, plants grow larger. Clever and determined finders do research before setting out.

K
Re: DeLorme Map Book
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Reply to: #845979 by Kelsung
May 12, 2014 12:41am
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Planted in 2010. For all I know, I'm the last person on Earth to give up on DeLorme in favor of a tablet or smartphone; I do tend to lag the curve in such matters. I think the box has only been found twice, perhaps indicating how few people have DeLorme map books.
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845979 by Kelsung
May 12, 2014 12:45am
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And that link would be no help at all in figuring out this clue. You'd have to go to this page:

http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=10096&minisite=10020

...and spend $19.95.
Re: Lyme Disease
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Reply to: #845966 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
May 12, 2014 2:23am
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A rather inappropriate post considered the subject.

Umm . . . it was a joke? Dark humor, ya know.
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845978 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 2:40am
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I don't know. I think it'd be kind of fun to hunt down a DeLorme to find one of your boxes. There's used book stores and amazon has used copies for $8 with shipping. That's like paying a park entrance fee. Your stamps are worth the effort and I personally enjoy atlases over a gps. I still use one to see where I am on roadtrips rather than just watch the boring gps, but I have no idea what brand it is. I'd leave it as is.
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845978 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 3:00am
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I'm a paper map person and own several DeLorme books.
I like seeing the total area, not just the several miles around where I am according to a GPS.
That said, could you revise the clues to fit something found on-line?
Re: DeLorme Map Book
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Reply to: #845978 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 4:13am
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You'll get more finders if you don't require the use of the DeLorme map book, so if that's important to you, I'd recommend revising the clues.
Re: DeLorme Map Book
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Reply to: #845998 by Rocklun
May 12, 2014 4:35am
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You'll get more finders if you don't require the use of the DeLorme map book

I agree with Rocklun.
My thoughts: DeLorme? never heard of it. OH, he means a gazetteer. I know what that is!
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845978 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 4:55am
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When you said Delorme, I thought you were talking about GPS maps. Because that's all I know of them. I haven't bought a map book since 1993, when I drove across the country. Now I use GPS, and small local maps I usually download for free.

I don't get around enough to look for used map books, and I wouldn't pay $20. But then again, I still have a ton more of your boxes to find. :)
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845983 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 5:05am
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i think it has more to do with boxers not being in the area, rather than the clue or the map.

~tigs
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845984 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 5:48am
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or find a kindly librarian or small books store owner willing to look up the info and send it to you. I did that with a clue on a different box. I needed information on a certain page of a book that may or may not be available in the library when you went to find a box. since it was a hundreds of miles from home I did extensive correspondence research before going. I would say it changing the clue depends on how often you want it to be found. You are right that the scarcity of the book will make finds less and less likely as time passes. I still have a map book, but it is not a DeLorme. It is a trucker's atlas and it gives me warning of roads and bridges that might not be appropriate for my rolling home when I move it down the way.
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845978 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 6:17am
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I didn't realize that letterboxing required everything to be easier for folks. Sometimes research and leg work is good for people. Put down the smartphones people - they are making you dumb.

my 2 cents on a Monday morning...
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845984 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 6:20am
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I realize that particular link wouldn't help. I was just pointing out that in the internet age, information CAN be found by those who know how to look.

K
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #846029 by Kelsung
May 12, 2014 6:48am
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I was just pointing out that in the internet age, information CAN be found by those who know how to look.

Well, not always. In this case, it sounds as though you'd need to buy or borrow the map book to solve the mystery.

Southpaw and I worked on solving some old mysteries that told you to use an old, town-published trail guide to help solve the mysteries. The online links to this guide were broken, and hardcopy guides were no longer for sale. I even tried to buy a copy on eBay, but the seller decided to keep it.

We ended up going to the town's library, where they had ONE copy of the guide! We made a photocopy of it and then posted it online (as the original planters had done) so that future finders--particularly those who aren't from the area--could solve the mysteries, even if the lone hardcopy goes missing.

My point is that we couldn't have solved all of these old mysteries by searching online, because the necessary information was no longer there.
Re: Lyme Disease
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845986 by WiseOldOwl
May 12, 2014 10:50am
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Umm . . . it was a joke? Dark humor, ya know.

Yah I knew it was a "joke". Guess I know too many people debilitated or dead from Lyme disease to find it funny.

Old Blue
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #846028 by mudflinginfools
May 12, 2014 12:07pm
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I love the gazetteers! I have 5, and two for the home state because I forgot I had one already. Though I have a smart phone, I prefer paper maps. I think it gives me a better perspective. But I have been using them for years. How else can you find those way-out dots on the map where early ancestors roamed? Who wouldn't want to see a place called Slapout? Or learn of the history and demise of Hindustan?
Re: Lyme Disease
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Reply to: #846102 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
May 12, 2014 1:00pm
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ya know. . .

i appreciate the sentiment. i really do.

i fight this disease every day of my life right now, hoping today is the day i'll be able to get out into the woods and hike, knowing that means that tomorrow i'll sleep most of the day. i woke up with swollen fingers, running a fever.

And i need to laugh. i snorted tea at Bubs' reply. Now, maybe it's because i know him and he knows me, so i know it's not meant as disrepect. It's simply meant to lighten the mood.

Now, if only the little buggers were big as elephants. . .

~tigs (WEAR DEET)
Re: Lyme Disease
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Reply to: #845493 by Wry Me
May 12, 2014 1:05pm
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i just saw this

How is absorbing it into yourself prevented, especially once you start sweating?

i don't think it's actually poisonous to humans once it's been dried and applied - any more than we get a reaction from handling chrysanthemums. That's where it comes from. i think it's only really poisonous in the form needed to get on your clothes, because it's so concentrated.

This is a complete and total guess, from talking this over with the biochemist who lives in my house (my daughter, who didn't really know either): when you sweat, you're not getting all the concentration of the solution on you, because a lot of it stays in the clothes (hence the lasting through 4-5 washings). Hence, it's not toxic at that level.

All i know is that it keeps the buggers from crawling up your pantlegs.

~tigs (who uses it - although it's a little like closing the barn door after the animals have left)
Re: Lyme Disease
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Reply to: #846119 by tiggermama
May 12, 2014 1:07pm
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PS: we could be completely wrong. anyone else have an idea why it's not poisonous?

~inquiring tiggers want to know.
Re: DeLorme Map Book
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #845978 by Kirbert
May 12, 2014 1:25pm
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Right now I'm leaning toward changing it -- just as the responses are leaning toward changing it. Next problem: How to change it! It'd be easy to simply specify the location, but then it wouldn't be a mystery any more. Gotta think about this a while.
Re: Lyme Disease
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Reply to: #846119 by tiggermama
May 12, 2014 1:33pm
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A couple of Dept of Health sites state that the chemical is poorly absorbed through the skin. I don't really know the pharmacokinetics on the chemical, but my guess is that poor absorption is probably due to either the large size of the molecule or the actual chemical/biochemical properties of compound (ie - highly charged particle or extremely lipophilic). The just being that it's hard for the compound to cross the skin barrier.

In any event, from the brief reading I did, it sounds like you need excessive exposure to feel negative side effects (though some people have been found to be more sensitive to it than others). If it does enter your body, your liver breaks it down rather quickly through a very common metabolic pathway. And a general consensus at the moment seems to be that low doses of the stuff is fine for human use.

So just don't bath in it every day and definitely don't take a swig or two from the bottle.

Kham
Re: Lyme Disease
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #846124 by Khameleon
May 12, 2014 1:48pm
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Thanks very much. I really dislike the feel of DEET on my skin (or sunscreen-I've been wanting UV long-sleeve shirts for a long time.), so I appreciate the replies from everyone since this sounds promising.
Re: DeLorme Map Book
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Reply to: #846038 by Rocklun
May 12, 2014 3:18pm
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You just described a real letterbox adventure. That would be awesome! I pictured Robert Langdon scouring the margins for handwritten notes on 400 year-old manuscripts in the vaults at The Vatican.

How is that a bad thing? Leave your mystery alone: it's a mystery. Make them earn it. Why are we always making boxes easier for people? I want the joy of the hunt!

K
Re: Lyme Disease
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Reply to: #846124 by Khameleon
May 12, 2014 3:22pm
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Yes thank you to everyone who replied. I really want to reduce the risk of Ticks and the illnesses they carry so I'm going to go shopping and treat all my hiking clothes and gear. Sure hope it works and I can stay on the trails.