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Re: It's True!
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Reply to: #974338 by Early Risers
Apr 20, 2019 12:55am
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No logbook because the box is a magnet-backed stamp on the underside of a mailbox is OK. No logbook just because you didn't feel like spending the 79 cents for a logbook is not.
Re: It's True!
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Reply to: #974346 by Kirbert
Apr 20, 2019 1:39am
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No logbook because the box is a magnet-backed stamp on the underside of a mailbox is OK. No logbook just because you didn't feel like spending the 79 cents for a logbook is not.

OKaaaay. :) And what do we do with the lazy cheap boxer who makes a "magnet" box just BECAUSE they won't have to 1. buy a logbook; 2. bother being sure they have a waterproof container to protect said logbook; 3. bother finding a location suitable to having a logbook.

Now, there may be parts of the country soooo jammed with boxes that there's just noooo other place any longer to hide a box except on the underside of a metal mailbox that can't even contain a tiny logbook. Even Dr. Phil, bad as he is most of the time (maybe even all of the time), could ably shoot down the various excuses that lazy cheap boxers tend to come up with.

At least the boxers who just blatantly put the stamps out there, not bothering with any excuses, are honest. They're cheap, they're lazy, it's what they wanna do, and thaaaaat's all folks. No excuses. I commend 'em on their honesty. :)

Growing up, I had a next-door neighbor who kicked their kids out of the house the day they turned 18. No excuses. No money. Just pack your bags, you're an adult now, you're outta here. These single stamps, out in the wild all by their poor lonesomes, no companion logbooks for support, remind me of those neighbors.
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Reply to: #974346 by Kirbert
Apr 20, 2019 8:00am
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No logbook because the box is a magnet-backed stamp on the underside of a mailbox is OK. No logbook [...]

Some people would like to skip boxes with no log book. Should an attribute be added that indicates "no logbook"? Right now it would have to be part of the description of the box in the clue. If it is an attribute then people could include or exclude such boxes.
Re: It's True!
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Reply to: #974348 by Early Risers
Apr 20, 2019 8:21am
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Now, there may be parts of the country soooo jammed with boxes that there's just noooo other place any longer to hide a box except on the underside of a metal mailbox that can't even contain a tiny logbook. Even Dr. Phil, bad as he is most of the time (maybe even all of the time), could ably shoot down the various excuses that lazy cheap boxers tend to come up with.

Here in MA, we have a couple of months where searching for traditional boxes can be extremely difficult, due to snow cover. To give folks something to find, I've planted some winter-friendly boxes that are film canisters hanging on trees. I chose not to put a logbook (i.e. strips of paper) in some of them, because frankly, if it's 20 degrees and you've just snowshoed a mile to get to the box, you probably don't want your hands exposed to the cold any longer than necessary.

But, heck, thanks for letting me know that I'm a lazy cheap boxer because I deliberately chose not to put a logbook in a handful of my boxes.
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Reply to: #974361 by Rocklun
Apr 20, 2019 9:09am
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But, heck, thanks for letting me know that I'm a lazy cheap boxer because I deliberately chose not to put a logbook in a handful of my boxes.

It's a lot more work and planning to hide snow-friendly boxes like yours located well down a hiking trail than it is to plant letterboxes with logbooks that are drivebys or quick strolls. It's not easy. Thanks for planting!
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Reply to: #974361 by Rocklun
Apr 20, 2019 9:43am
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Also here in MA (well, New England), we also have a comparatively active letterboxing community. I've often wondered if it's because we don't get persnickety about our rules and, frankly, are friendlier for it. No logbook? No problem, we're being bitten by mosquitoes / ticks are attacking us / the rain would have destroyed it / snow is COLD, anyway. Have a logbook? Great!

... except W&P... hooooooo boy do I have stories that I've been refraining from airing on this thread. And, btw, those were my boxes that they didn't sign in to. Because, guess what? Being mean causes people to tell you you're not welcome.
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Reply to: #973898 by Elle
Apr 20, 2019 12:02pm
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Well THIS thread has certainly garnered some interesting observations!!!

My 2cents, which I'm sure in 2019 standards is probably 25 or 50 cents by now...

Should W&P find one of my boxes? That's nice...
Should no one find any of my boxes? Oh well...
Should boxers decide not to find one of my boxes because I decided for some specific reason not to include a logbook? Their loss for not stamping a really nice carve...
Drivebys? This is a findy game, I think they're fun, and old school didn't have any rules...

Want to make boxing more fun, do it like in Dartmoor... NO CLUES... look under rocks, maybe there might be a box there... oh wait, Connecticut is that way...

Did I miss anything?
Re: It's True!
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Reply to: #974348 by Early Risers
Apr 20, 2019 12:32pm
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Growing up, I had a next-door neighbor who kicked their kids out of the house the day they turned 18. No excuses. No money. Just pack your bags, you're an adult now, you're outta here.

Hah! I had the same neighbor!
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Reply to: #974368 by Honeychyck
Apr 20, 2019 12:35pm
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No logbook? No problem, we're being bitten by mosquitoes / ticks are attacking us / the rain would have destroyed it / snow is COLD, anyway.

The box should have a logbook anyway. If the finder doesn't wanna bother with stamping in for whatever reason, fine.
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Reply to: #974372 by Phoenix Rizing
Apr 20, 2019 1:11pm
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Want to make boxing more fun, do it like in Dartmoor... NO CLUES... look under rocks, maybe there might be a box there... oh wait, Connecticut is that way...

lol, in reality you really can't do that in Connecticut because there are so many rocks. There may be a lot of boxes, but there are a zillion more places to hide them.
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Reply to: #974372 by Phoenix Rizing
Apr 20, 2019 1:18pm
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Want to make boxing more fun, do it like in Dartmoor... NO CLUES

That's how I run my Letterboxers Egg Hunt every year. You have the option of going Dartmoor style with no clues at all, or you can have cryptic clues written by Not A Lone Wolf Anymore for help.

Warrior Woman
likes to keep it fun
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Reply to: #974375 by Kirbert
Apr 20, 2019 1:26pm
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Well, some don't ~shrugs~
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Reply to: #974375 by Kirbert
Apr 20, 2019 2:11pm
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The box should have a logbook anyway. If the finder doesn't wanna bother with stamping in for whatever reason, fine.

Not that there's any reason to care whether I like an idea or not but................I like this idea!
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Reply to: #974361 by Rocklun
Apr 20, 2019 2:14pm
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But, heck, thanks for letting me know that I'm a lazy cheap boxer because I deliberately chose not to put a logbook in a handful of my boxes.

Nono, you're only lazy & cheap on the days you plant boxes with no logbooks. Otherwise you're a workaholic spendthrift.
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Reply to: #974375 by Kirbert
Apr 20, 2019 2:19pm
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The box should have a logbook anyway

Does that mean that if you plant a 15 box series you're going to put a logbook in all 15 boxes??
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Reply to: #974385 by MissMoon
Apr 20, 2019 2:50pm
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Does that mean that if you plant a 15 box series you're going to put a logbook in all 15 boxes??

Even I'm willing to draw the line on that one. :) On the other hand, when boxing first came to Illinois, that was how it was done. Tho the most I remember in a series was 10 boxes. Logbook in every one.

GrayFamily5 again who made that series. And the last one in the series went missing pretty fast, so the penultimate logbook became the last. I'll be the first to admit that 10 (or even 9) logbooks in a loop got boring. Quickly. But I persevered! :)
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Reply to: #974385 by MissMoon
Apr 20, 2019 3:16pm
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Does that mean that if you plant a 15 box series you're going to put a logbook in all 15 boxes??

It was suggested that boxes without logbooks be identified with an icon for the purists to avoid. Conversly, should series with a logbook in every box be identified so that the sane can avoid them?
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Reply to: #974387 by dingus dufus
Apr 20, 2019 3:23pm
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Best. Reply. Yet. 🤩😂
Re: It's True!
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Reply to: #974286 by Public Hand
Apr 20, 2019 3:41pm
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ALL of the stamps I found were store bought. very disappointing. My experience was that the clues were difficult to follow and boxes were often missing. I did charity walks, which seems to be the way you can get your 100 stamps to get "real" clues. I found many many other boxes, but had no idea what they were or where to log them or what they were called. It all felt chaotic to me. And don't get me started on those wild ponies! Be very careful opening a bag around them, they think FOOD and run straight at you!
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Reply to: #974385 by MissMoon
Apr 20, 2019 3:44pm
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Does that mean that if you plant a 15 box series you're going to put a logbook in all 15 boxes??

I planted a 12-box series and put a logbook in all 12 boxes. At first I had only 2-4 out at a time, in a rotation. Now I have them all out, year round. I left all of the logbooks in all 12 boxes.
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Reply to: #974375 by Kirbert
Apr 20, 2019 4:17pm
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The box should have a logbook anyway. If the finder doesn't wanna bother with stamping in for whatever reason, fine.

Now that I think about it, when I find a box without a logbook (and it's not part of a series), I tend to assume it used to have a logbook, but the logbook became soaked and was removed by someone. Happens all the time.
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Reply to: #974387 by dingus dufus
Apr 20, 2019 5:53pm
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Conversly, should series with a logbook in every box be identified so that the sane can avoid them?

Good one.

Nah, I'll just stamp in the first, middle, and last. And the middle depends on how many boxes in the series. :)

Works for me.
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Reply to: #974216 by Oberon_Kenobi
Apr 20, 2019 6:49pm
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Damn. Pretty sure I've been in every Dead Horses thread since the dawn of time. Frankly, I thought it would happen sooner.
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Reply to: #974378 by Warrior Woman
Apr 20, 2019 9:12pm
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I’ve done this with my indoor holiday events. Finding the boxes were so much more difficult and participants sometimes asked for clues. They have all been good sports and rewarded with top notch carves from around the country. In a nutshell, I create a room with a theme and cleverly hide the stamps. I say there are x number of stamps in there. Good luck!
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Reply to: #974374 by Kirbert
Apr 21, 2019 7:21am
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Hah! I had the same neighbor!

Hey, then your neighbor was my dad!

~DarkZen - financially responsible and living independently since 18.
😎
Clean up missing/un-found letterboxes
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Apr 24, 2019 6:32am
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I would love it if everyone who has ever placed a LB would review all of them, check on them, and if they are not currently available, RETIRE THEM!
It's getting to the point where LB-ing is losing its appeal due to all the non-existent boxes that are still listed. Lately, I'm finding more listings for boxes that haven't been found in several years- more than those that are still active.
I wonder if there's a way to send a message to all members asking them to do so.
PLEASE update all of your boxes, for the sake of keeping this a fun and exciting hobby. Thanks!
Re: Clean up missing/un-found letterboxes
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Reply to: #974490 by Grapenuts
Apr 24, 2019 6:43am
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So I can't plant around me, because there is no one active. I plant my boxes states away and can't check on them. I have often found some that haven't been found in several years and sometimes, I've even found boxes that were listed as missing but weren't. I think it's fine to retire something you know is gone, but I'm not willing to do so until I verify for myself and even then, I've had two boxes now in a cemetery be missing for over a year and somehow turn up on the other side of the cemetery. So even retiring isn't a sure fire bet.
Re: Clean up missing/un-found letterboxes
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Reply to: #974490 by Grapenuts
Apr 24, 2019 6:58am
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I could do this if I had only 10 local plants, but I've planted quite a few boxes, most of which are on hikes. I do check on my boxes when I'm in the area, but checking on all of my boxes just to see if they're still there would be a full-time job.

For the most part, I rely on finders to let me know a box's status and to help maintain boxes with new baggies, a new logbook, if the old one is full, etc. Isn't that part of the expectation, since the planter is providing the finder with free entertainment? I certainly do that for the boxes I find.
Re: Clean up missing/un-found letterboxes
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Reply to: #974490 by Grapenuts
Apr 24, 2019 9:05am
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I concur with most of what others have said, except I'm not the only boxer in my area. There are three others within a 75 mile radius.

However, once they have found my boxes, it may be a while before anyone else stops to find them. We are not near an interstate highway.

I do check on some of them every year, and log that maintenance, but I can't do all of them every year. Besides that, just because it was there yesterday when I checked doesn't mean something didn't happen to it this morning. There's always a risk of failure.
Re: Clean up missing/un-found letterboxes
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Reply to: #974490 by Grapenuts
Apr 24, 2019 2:57pm
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Did this really need to be cross posted?