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Re: Plant Date for Reserved Boxes
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #975314 by Green Tortuga
May 19, 2019 9:20pm
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Any "creation date" (I know what you are referring to, just sounds like a newish term) that falls outside the PAL "window" precludes a box from PAL consideration? I'm not a PAL fan, just would like a clarification since I'm not seeing an issue reserving an idea to work on over a period of time in hopes of creating a quality product and then executing the actual box during the PAL parameters. I can't imagine the conception to fruition for a legitimate PAL box has to be within that short time frame.

-confused in Chelmsford

PS How about a PyFB (plant you finest box) day once a year.

PPS If this line of questioning is silly, please refer to our trail name.
Re: Plant Date for Reserved Boxes
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #975323 by dingus dufus
May 19, 2019 10:26pm
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Any "creation date" that falls outside the PAL "window" precludes a box from PAL consideration?

Yes.

I'm not seeing an issue reserving an idea to work on over a period of time in hopes of creating a quality product and then executing the actual box during the PAL parameters.

I don't see an issue with that either--but it won't count as a PAL Day box because there were issues in the past with people who planted several dozen boxes over a period of months then activated all the boxes at once on PAL Day... which kind of defeats the whole purpose of PAL Day. So I stopped counting those, and the easiest way for me to identify boxes that were really planted long before PAL Day was the creation date.

If it knocks a few of the legitimate plants out from being counted.... Well, I made the rules clear. And if it's just a "placeholder" with a name, it's not hard for someone to delete the reserved listing and just create a fresh one.

But basically, it's a legacy from people abusing the system in years past. In fact, several of the rules were created due to past abuses.

-- Ryan
Minor quibble regarding PAL widget.
Board: Suggestion Box
May 24, 2019 6:36pm
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Map is great. It's great that when the state number of boxes found is clicked, that the boxes LISTED for PAL day from that state are listed on a search page. But PAL boxes LISTED on May 23rd and May 25th, but PLANTED on May 24th don't appear on that search page. Is it a quick and easy fix to switch that LISTED to PLANTED?
Re: Minor quibble regarding PAL widget.
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #975462 by Wronghat
May 24, 2019 6:53pm
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Is it a quick and easy fix to switch that LISTED to PLANTED?

Not really. There's not a search option for the plant date, so there's basically a hack in the widget to limit the counts further. It not only limits boxes listed between May 23rd and May 25th, but also limits the creation date between the 17th and 25th, limits box counts to 20 per person, etc.

For the search page to show up with only PAL Day boxes, I'd have to add support for all those options--which isn't very trivial.

So... the widget just creates the best link that it can for a search, but admittedly, it's not the exact list that's being counted because of the limitations of the search options.

And it was a lot more fun making a map of the plants for PAL Day than adding new search options for the Advance Search page. =)

-- Ryan
Re: Minor quibble regarding PAL widget.
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #975463 by Green Tortuga
May 24, 2019 6:56pm
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Too minor of a quibble to open a can of worms. It's amazing that it gets the count right with all those alternatives.
Re: Minor quibble regarding PAL widget.
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Reply to: #975464 by Wronghat
May 24, 2019 7:35pm
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It's amazing that it gets the count right with all those alternatives.

It's a total hack. If the code actually got used more than one day a year, I'd definitely put more time and effort into it. *nodding*

-- Ryan
Re: Minor quibble regarding PAL widget.
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #975465 by Green Tortuga
May 24, 2019 7:37pm
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If the code actually got used more than one day a year, I'd definitely put more time and effort into it. *nodding*

I know. That's why I was surprised to see the map.
Re: Minor quibble regarding PAL widget.
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #975466 by Wronghat
May 24, 2019 7:46pm
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That's why I was surprised to see the map.

Yeah, I spent all morning working on that and I probably had better things I could work on, but sometimes I just like to do stuff for fun and this was one of them.

And! I already had density maps available on profiles for premium members, so mostly I just refactored the code so it could be used in multiple places with any sort of data. There might come a day when I want to use those maps for other data, or use the code for a world map (or Canadian map), or use a density map on another website and now... I can add it pretty easily.

It's all in a fairly neat, portable package. I can switch out the maps easily. I can switch out the data easily. And I can switch out the website it's used on easily.

If it had already been factored into this neat little package, I could have added the PAL Day map in maybe 5 minutes? Super quick and easy! The refactoring took all morning, but I'm thinking I'll have other uses for it someday and now that work is already done. =)

And I had fun working on it. Work is supposed to be fun! *nodding*

-- Ryan
Re: Minor quibble regarding PAL widget.
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #975464 by Wronghat
May 24, 2019 9:35pm
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I think I confused the widget.. Texas shows 2 boxes but click on it and it only brings up one. The box is connected to two AQ accounts so maybe its counting planters not plants? Or it's only showing me mine and there really is another PAL box in texas?
Re: Minor quibble regarding PAL widget.
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #975469 by PurpleNic
May 24, 2019 10:29pm
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Texas shows 2 boxes but click on it and it only brings up one.

The search it brings up is only a close approximate of the actual boxes counted for PAL Day. There is, in fact, another box listed yesterday that's being counted for PAL Day.

-- Ryan
Today is D-Day
Board: Suggestion Box
Jun 6, 2019 3:00am
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Any chance of a D-Day theme for future June 6ths?

To those who gave their all, are still giving and will in the future,
THANK YOU.
Re: Today is D-Day
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Reply to: #975964 by Grrly Girl
Jun 6, 2019 3:52am
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Great idea GG! What a tribute that would be to the greatest generation and all their families!

We all enjoy our freedoms due to the unselfish dedication of our young men and women, in the past, present and future! GBA
Feedback x 4
Board: Suggestion Box
Jul 3, 2019 7:13am
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Foremost, thanks so much for creating and maintaining a great website. Please take any of my feedback as earnest, positive thoughts to encourage an increase in AQ's grandeur!

1) Squeaky wheel. I'm not fond of the new manual dancing Update button when adjusting logbook searches. Perhaps it's necessary for server efficiency. Still, if returning to auto Update for all users isn't an option, perhaps provide an option to turn auto Update on for premium users.

2) Marketing idea. I'm not much of a board posting/reading person. Probably many other AQ users aren't as well. Consider sending a short email quarterly newsletter to inform users along with a non-binding poll out to premium users to request suggestions/prioritize feature update requests. If this targeted newsletter became a perk of premium/lifetime membership I think you might see a sizable increase in paid membership to boost AQ's revenue. Non-premium members might get the newsletter too, but only voting privilege if they join as a premium member. An option to opt out of newsletter is probably sensible as well.

3) Bell and whistle! A button/link that exported AQ calendar events to my google calendar remains my biggest wish :D My latest brainstorm: as a second level feature a similar button/link could be integrated into each Box Details page to schedule box planning into ones google calendar. Next to having an AI plan my boxing path (lol) this would be superbly awesome, especially if the location, and clue text were exported into the calendar item for offline use, saving paper as well. Yeah I know it's a bit of a pie in the sky request...so take it fwiw.

4) Mobile app mantra. Box Radar was sweet, alas now defunct. Clue Tracker is pretty good, so I bit the bullet and bought it as a rare mobile purchase. So take it as a data point, that if you made an AQ app as awesome as the website and tweaked for handheld, I'd bet you'd get a lot of people paying $ for it.

Did I mention, AQ is awesome...glad to be a premium member!

Thanks!

River Sol
Re: Feedback x 4
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #976939 by River Sol
Jul 3, 2019 10:17am
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I like the Update button. With the auto update, it didn't always happen, which may have been a temporary state after the initial logbook changes, but it happened very often to me.
Re: Feedback x 4
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Reply to: #976941 by SherlockMiles
Jul 4, 2019 11:13am
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I also like it because I like to be in control of it updating rather than the page automatically updating even if I touched the wrong choice. Plus, the moving update button catches my attention
Atlasquest and Lbna
Board: Suggestion Box
Jul 8, 2019 3:26am
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Some listings on Atlasquest
have clues that automatically
Switch over to Lbna. Some have been archived on Lbna.
Some boxes I have found on Atlasquest but don’t show updated info for same box on Lbna.
Re: Atlasquest and Lbna
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Reply to: #977057 by buttercup60
Jul 8, 2019 4:49am
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Those are true statements. What is your suggestion? The two sites are independent. It is the responsibility of the planter to maintain their clues, not the site managers
Re: Atlasquest and Lbna
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Reply to: #977057 by buttercup60
Jul 8, 2019 5:24am
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As was posted, these actions are totally up to planters and finders.

Some boxes I have found on Atlasquest but don’t show updated info for same box on Lbna.

Lots of people may log a find on AQ and not think about doing it on LBNA or may not even be aware that the box is listed on LBNA. Many of the LBNA boxes are not links from AQ.

Are you asking a question?
Re: Atlasquest and Lbna
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Reply to: #977057 by buttercup60
Jul 8, 2019 9:18am
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Some listings on Atlasquest have clues that automatically Switch over to Lbna.

I wouldn't say it's automatic.... People who listed a box on LbNA then relist it on AQ have to deliberately link their AQ listing to the LbNA listing. It's not at all automatic!

I'd agree with the rest of your statements, but as others have already asked, what's your suggestion? If your suggestion is that the two sites should show the same data... unfortunately, that won't happen.

These are two completely independently run websites. I can't update information on LbNA and LbNA can't update information on Atlas Quest.

-- Ryan
Re: Atlasquest and Lbna
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Reply to: #977084 by Green Tortuga
Jul 8, 2019 11:32am
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Thank you. Guess I chose the wrong option to post a comment. Still new to where and how to post. I don’t have any suggestions but your answer covered everything.
buttercup60
Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
Board: Suggestion Box
Jul 25, 2019 6:24pm
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I think I'll start by whining. I'm co-planter of a 4-box series that I went to check on yesterday. One of the boxes had apparently been vandalized by a geocacher. I'd planted my box almost 5 years ago, but I didn't realize that in May of this year a geocacher placed a cache about 2-3 feet from my box (I doubt that they realized this either). I found my box in its proper location, under a rock, with the lid on the box, but when I opened it I discovered two tabs were broken off the lid, there was water in the box, and while the baggies remained, the stamp and logbook were gone. At first I was baffled, but then I saw the cache. Later I read the comments about the cache on the geocaching site and saw several from people who found my box before they found the cache. So for some absurd reason I guess a geocacher found my box, took its contents, and then put it all tidily back.

I try to check the GC site before I plant boxes, but I'm not in the habit of checking it after I plant to see if someone places a cache near one of my boxes. So while I was whining about all this to my husband, he had a pretty good idea. What if AQ had a feature (probably a premium feature) that allowed box owners to have a private field for GPS coordinates. Then they could input coordinates for their own boxes if they wanted. And then what if AQ had a script that could be run to pick up all the coordinates from the GC site so that it could alert the letterboxer if a new cache were to be planted within x feet of one of their boxes. I thought that this was brilliant, and he's not even a boxer.

I know that if I'd gotten such an alert in May I'd have been really motivated to jump in my car and rescue my box from the secluded hill I'd staked out 5 years ago before the geocachers started rummaging around up there.

And I don't mean to badmouth all geocachers--just the few who knowingly or unknowingly destroy letterboxes.
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
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Reply to: #977721 by Dawnkey
Jul 25, 2019 6:37pm
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Probably challenging to enact. However, you can accomplish even better on your own. Get yourself a geocaching.com identity and plant a geocache about 200-300 feet from your box -- far enough they shouldn't accidentally find your box, but less than 528 feet. Geocachers are prohibited from planting a geocache within 1/10 mile of an existing geocache. Your cache doesn't have to be much, it can just be a film canister with a roll of paper in it.
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
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Reply to: #977723 by Kirbert
Jul 25, 2019 6:43pm
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I do have a geocaching identity, but I haven't placed any caches. Do you have to go thru some approval process for that?
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
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Reply to: #977725 by Dawnkey
Jul 25, 2019 8:16pm
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It sucks, it does. My first box ever was geocached. They planted it in the same exact tree maybe 5 years after my box. They took the stamp and threw out my logbook and left the box. I know this because I checked their site and the comments confirmed this. Contacted several of the GCers but none could locate my stamp. Dreadfully annoying.
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
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Reply to: #977723 by Kirbert
Jul 25, 2019 9:25pm
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Probably challenging to enact.

Probably not legal either. I betcha that GC data is proprietary.

I think your solution is the best.
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
Board: Suggestion Box
Reply to: #977723 by Kirbert
Jul 25, 2019 9:45pm
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Probably challenging to enact.

I know that geocaching.com allows some third party access to their database. For example, c:geo is a phone app that competes with the geocaching app but still has full access to reading the geocaching.com caching database. There are restrictions on how the data can be used, but it can be used.

I'm saying that it seems possible.

However, you can accomplish even better on your own. Get yourself a geocaching.com identity and plant a geocache about 200-300 feet from your box -- far enough they shouldn't accidentally find your box, but less than 528 feet.

This is a very good idea.

Another one that I've suggested before is that you make friends with a geocacher. We don't bite. The geocacher can keep a look out for you. I watch out for letterboxes in my area, that I know of. I know of a geocache that was moved because the letterbox was there first, but I didn't help with this one. I convinced another geocacher to move his geocache because of the letterbox I knew that was nearby.

But if you don't know any friendly geocachers, then Kirbert's suggestion should be followed.

Your cache doesn't have to be much, it can just be a film canister with a roll of paper in it.

You want to make sure to monitor the find/DNF (did not find) logs on your cache. Keep your cache maintained and your letterboxes will be much safer. You don't even have to buy a GPS receiver because smart phones have GPS receivers in them now. You just need to get an app to be able to find the coordinates of the cache you placed.

It is free to submit a cache. It is then reviewed by a local reviewer. (Utah has two reviewers currently, but other regions may have one reviewer cover multiple states.) The reviewer may question why you are submitting a cache without having found any. When submitting your cache you have an opportunity to submit a "reviewer note" in which you can explain that you are protecting your letterbox and that you will maintain the cache to protect your letterbox.

However, again, it will be easier to make friends with a geocacher who will plant and maintain a cache to protect your geocache. There was a park that had a new letterbox planted. I planted a geocache in a way to protect the letterbox. The letterbox went missing (because where it was hidden was cleared) before the geocache went missing.

A long answer. Kirbert's suggestions is a way to protect your letterbox(es). Making friends with a geocacher is another way to protect your letterbox(es).
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
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Reply to: #977729 by Oberon_Kenobi
Jul 26, 2019 12:08am
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...make friends with a geocacher. We don't bite. The geocacher can keep a look out for you.

I'm not sure what the geocacher could do that you couldn't do for yourself. Set up an account on geocaching.com (free) and put a watch on the geocaches near your box. You'll get a notice every time someone logs a find.
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
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Reply to: #977725 by Dawnkey
Jul 26, 2019 3:30am
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I use my geo account to see where there are caches.
My two favorite plants are a mere 10 feet from a cache. The cache is in an obvious place.
My plants are in not so obvious places.
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
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Reply to: #977721 by Dawnkey
Jul 26, 2019 4:06am
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Honestly though, can't they read? Every letterbox I plant, I plainly put on the lid - This is a letterbox. Not trash. - then inside I try to put an Atlasquest.com informational piece - if it fits.
Re: Premium feature to help defend against geocaches
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Reply to: #977735 by SeerMeesh
Jul 26, 2019 6:19am
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they do not read. (or maybe they can't)

I've had several boxes geotrashed, and it's made me incredibly bitter about that particular sport.