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Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502704 by Okie Dog
Apr 2, 2010 8:25am
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I was surprised for a moment that Rob talked to Coach like that and blew him off when he tried to hug him, because Rob is all about "it's just a game."

But what I realized is -- that's exactly why he hugged Jerri. It's just a game, and she did what she thinks is best for her (remains to be seen if that's true, and of course Rob disagrees, but ...). If you say you're going to lie and manipulate and do what's best for you, Rob respects that. Coach, however, is supposedly all about honor and doing what he says he's going to do. His whole persona out there is about playing the game without going back on his word. And he gave Rob his word and shook on it, and then knowingly cast a vote that meant Rob would go home.
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502666 by Eidolon
Apr 2, 2010 8:33am
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Did they not watch last season?

No. The last two seasons were filmed back to back.

Russell is the one player that no one knows anything about, that's why he's able to pull the same shenanigans as he did last season. Had there been some time between the two seasons, we would be watching a much different game this season.

I'm sorry to see Rob go too. He may be a villain, but he's an amusing villain with a decent personality.
SJ Honey Bunny
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502736 by Woman to Blame
Apr 2, 2010 9:18am
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I'm sorry to see Rob go too. He may be a villain, but he's an amusing villain with a decent personality.

I feel the same way. It should have been Russell. It's hard to believe that no one sees what he's doing!

:) Mama Marge
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502750 by Mama Marge
Apr 2, 2010 9:21am
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Russell is so darn charming and convincing to the individuals he corners. I think they would be much more resistant if they were not on that island, sleep depraved and weak, as well as hungry.
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502683 by TrailTroll
Apr 2, 2010 10:16am
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The part that I'll never understand with Jeri is that on the same day she heard him say that he wanted to be in the top 4 with the three women, and then that he wanted the top three to be him with Jeri and Coach. How is that possible? And yet, she believed him!!!
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502751 by cheekee monkey
Apr 2, 2010 10:25am
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Russell is on the villain side, right? So he doesn't know there is another immunity idol out there? Or were the heroes the only ones finding a note about an idol? And as such, would only be in their camp. It will be fun to see if Russell finds another idol. When and if there is one planted for him to find.
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502774 by PBandJ
Apr 2, 2010 10:40am
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The part that I'll never understand with Jeri is that on the same day she heard him say that he wanted to be in the top 4 with the three women, and then that he wanted the top three to be him with Jeri and Coach. How is that possible? And yet, she believed him!!!

I was telling my daughter this morning that I didn't remember Jeri being quite so dumb. This season she seems much more wishy-washy than in the past. And putting Coach on the spot the way she did with Russel on the beach... That was just stupid!
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502640 by Ursa Major
Apr 2, 2010 10:57am
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There are a lot of people who feel that way about Russell. I wonder if Survivor has lost fans because of Russell lasting or gained more because they want to see him voted out? My friend won't watch because of him and can't stand to see or hear him. Knowing he can't possibly win because of the constant backstabbing makes me feel better about other people's chances. For me he provides great drama which is why Jeff thinks he's the greatest Survivor player ever and why the shows brass loves him being on.
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502784 by hopeinnc
Apr 2, 2010 11:49am
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I was telling my daughter this morning that I didn't remember Jeri being quite so dumb. This season she seems much more wishy-washy than in the past.

We have to remember that it was many ago that the likes of Jeri and Colby were on survivor; 9 years to be exact. I looked it up because Colby just looked so, I don't know, tired, old, un-buff? Same with Jeri who was 29 when she last played and is 38 now. (HUGE difference--for those of you who haven't reached these ages yet!). James had a comment about his "Superman" (Colby) becoming a wimp (or words to that effect)--would be interesting to see James's condition in 9 years.

Jeri said last night that she "was on the wrong team". She certainly isn't playing like the "villain" she was 9 years ago but that's how we'll always think of her. If she'd known then that she would still be unmarried and w/o kids, I wonder what kind of difference that would have made. Personally, I think she looks exactly the same and in damn good shape compared to her 29-year old self.

~~Doublesaj~~
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #494621 by SITE Sleuths
Apr 2, 2010 12:55pm
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this show was recording while the last one was playing so these people didn't get a chance to see the things Russel did last time

it's really coming into play now. I think Jerri (and several others for that matter) would've played differently had she seen his previous gameplay. I didn't realize the villains hadn't watched Russell's season b/c Parvati acted so wise to 'wanting the devil on her side' so I figured they had seen his "game-playing" methods but now I realize she must've just realized up front how conniving he could be and knew it would be better for her to play with him.

It answers a lot of questions for me since they had not seen his season b/c i kept wondering why the tribe members weren't catching onto his old tricks. I think that takes away a lot of his "i'm the best-player-ever" bragging rights b/c most of their downfalls have been due to others knowing their strategies; yet Russell is still able to play his original game without a lot of folks clueing in.

I wonder how differently things would've happened if his season had aired before this one filmed. DANG.
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #502812 by Sweet n Sassy
Apr 2, 2010 1:43pm
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Andy writes for a lot of magazines and reviews. In this, he suggests that Parvarti was tipped off about Russell's style of play:

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_heroes_vs_villains/2010_Feb_16_parvati_russell_challenge

Manoman, I wanted to see the troll beat Boston Rob, just because it would be funny to BR's ego, but dang, it was unsatisfying.
Re: Survivor 4/1
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Reply to: #502802 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
Apr 2, 2010 1:47pm
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I understand that there's a big difference between 29 and 38 but 38 is young compared to the likes of some players who've gone out there and whooped booty without whining about how "old" they are.

-Sweet n' Sassy
(who is 29 but still thinks 38 is not old)
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #502824 by MoWizLiz
Apr 2, 2010 1:55pm
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I am a HUGE Boston Rob fan. I think he has the CRAZY intuition and street smarts. If Rob had watched Russell's season I don't think it would've taken as long as it did for Rob to target Russell. On the other hand, Russell was targeting Rob from the beginning before Rob even noticed Russell.

I was so turned off last night when Russell said "I picked the person who went home last week". It's true but also disrespectful to his alliance...not every word you think has to come out of your mouth. His ego is making me wanna gag. I loved Russell last season and was looking forward to him on villains but for some reason I have SEVERELY soured to him now.

I am sooooo sad Rob is gone. His insight was fun to listen to and I only wish Tyson and Jerri had've been wiser to Russell.
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #502812 by Sweet n Sassy
Apr 2, 2010 1:56pm
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I posted this before I finished reading thread. It's only like the millionth time this exact point has been made. Sorry folks. :)

Is there a chance or hope that this season will still end up fun for me now that ole' Rob is gone? UGH. i don't know who I want to root for now.
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #502812 by Sweet n Sassy
Apr 2, 2010 6:09pm
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Russell is a producer's dream. He always says something that makes a great sound bite, he's sneaky and stirs up trouble, and he thinks aloud to the camera all the time. He's smart and knows how to put on an act and how to read & manipulate people.

(And yes, he's arrogant and a jerk and a whole list of other things, which is why I couldn't stand him at the beginning of last season. But for me at least, he brought an element of excitement back to the game... it's like, oh... what will Russell do this time?? I don't know what he's like outside the game but he makes a fascinating character to watch.)

I think it's made for a very interesting dynamic that the other players haven't watched Russell's season but I don't think it's the only reason he's doing well. They don't know his tricks and that may seem to give him an edge, but in reality they all made a mistake from the very beginning by just dismissing him. Stooopid! Every time someone called him a dumb*ss I just shook my head.

If they'd been on their game they would've been paying attention. I mean, come on! He obviously made it back for another season as a villain for a reason. If I was a player pitted against a new guy that I had no knowledge of except that he qualified to be on the creme-de-la-creme 20th season with all the big players... hmm, I think that would have made me 10 times more suspicious of him than anyone else. I would have been studying him like a hawk and looking beneath the surface.

The only person who seemed to wise up pretty quickly was Pavarti, who immediately latched onto him. That, too, should have raised alarms because, in their own words, they described her as the most dangerous, untrustable, power-hungry player in the game. Clearly, if she found a kindred spirit in Russell there was reason to be concerned.

Even Russell said several times in front of everyone that he was finally glad to be playing with people "in his league". How many more hints do they need that he's trouble??

But they ignored all of this. In the first handful of episodes the only reason they were talking about getting rid of him was because they were annoyed with how stupid they thought he was.

So maybe it'd be a different game if they knew his evil ways... maybe not. It seems most of them are sitting on their haunches this season. They came in riding on their experience from previous games but haven't actually been paying attention to THIS game.

Rob was the biggest disappointment for me because he IS a wise player -- he's also able to read people and pull tricks out of a hat. He was beginning to get suspicious of Russell by the 4th episode, but his arrogance in dismissing Russell as an inferior player distracted him too much. By the time he started to wise up Russell was already putting his plan into action.
Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution
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Apr 2, 2010 8:50pm
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Anyone else watching this?

I've been a huge fan of Jamie starting with his "Naked Chef" days, so of course I had to check this out. I wish I'd seen how things went in the UK when he started trying to change their school lunches - I wonder if it was as much of an uphill battle as it's been (edited to be) here.

I was glad to see the show focus this week on the high school - Jamie seems to have a real rapport and interest in teenagers in particular. It looks like he has at least one candidate for his "Fifteen" restaurants in the kid with anger-management issues.
Re: Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution
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Reply to: #502914 by Ursa Major
Apr 3, 2010 6:01am
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Jamie Oliver is total eye candy for me, and then add in what he's trying to do is great. LOL
I always loved his Jamie At Home show best...total food porn. I have his Tomatoes episode saved on the dvr and I watch it over and over.

I always make my kids homemade lunches to bring to school. This year the school has done away with their sandwich bar (where the kids could make their own pbj, etc.) and they now have individually packaged premade pbj trucked in. WTF?!
Re: Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution
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Reply to: #502914 by Ursa Major
Apr 3, 2010 12:50pm
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I'm such a fan of Jamie too! I did see a few episodes of the show he did where he transformed England's school lunch program. It was pretty intense for him then too. You can probably rent that show on Netflix! :) I'm SO excited about his US endeavor though! And I LOVED seeing how passionate the teenagers are about helping him! I can't wait to see more! :)

-gollygee
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #502879 by OhanaTribe
Apr 4, 2010 6:04pm
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You make some interesting points Ohana. I will try to stomach Russell for a few more episodes in hopes that I end up liking him as much as I did last season. UGH....

I still think Coach is LAUGHABLE as a villain and how the heck did Jerry earn the nickname "Black Widow"? Her original season is one of the few I've missed but I've never seen anything "widowish" about her.

Cirie and Coach or James and Coach should've swapped tribes.

You wanna know what I missed on this season? I really was looking forward to a few laughable moments from Tyson. He seemed a lot quieter this time around and I sure did miss his hilarious antics.
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #503277 by Sweet n Sassy
Apr 4, 2010 9:36pm
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I still think Coach is LAUGHABLE as a villain

I have no idea -- I didn't watch his original, but from what I see in this season he's no villain at all, and definitely not in comparison to people like Rob and Russell.

and how the heck did Jerry earn the nickname "Black Widow"? Her original season is one of the few I've missed but I've never seen anything "widowish" about her.

I did watch that one recently and I don't think she deserves the nickname. She walked out of one reunion show because she was hurt over the way the press and people on the street had treated her.

Her attitude on the 2nd season wasn't great and it didn't rub well with viewers, but hey it was only the second season and things hadn't quite heated up like they did in later seasons when even bigger, more conniving personalities appeared. So it's a perspective thing.

For a while she ruled the roost and had a little clique of "in" people hanging onto her, kinda like the popular girl with a mean streak. It's understandable why a lot of people were turned off by her attitude and she was a bit sneaky about some things, but as for being a villain... she wasn't.

The main thing she did was accuse a military guy of sneaking beef jerky and she got everyone riled up by that, another player even went through his stuff looking for evidence and then when it was suggested that she apologize to him she refused. Whether he really sneak food into camp or not only he knows, but it became an issue about his "honor" and really ticked a lot of military people off. In the "where are they now" follow-up show that aired after that season (which they don't do anymore) the guy talked about Jeri pretty harshly and proudly displayed a poster of her, hanging on a wall in his base, that everyone took turns throwing darts at. He smirked at the camera and said they'd had to replace the poster several times.

Since then she actually just seems to keep getting "softer" and less confrontational each time. I think her reputation is skewed but it's still following her around -- first impressions and all that.

~O
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #503332 by OhanaTribe
Apr 4, 2010 11:49pm
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I watched the original season with Jerry and she was fun to hate. I actually liked watching her antics quite a bit. She has definitely mellowed with age. I really doubt she is a mean person.
Re: Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution
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Reply to: #502914 by Ursa Major
Apr 5, 2010 7:00am
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I'm loving this! It's appalling to see how much some of the people of Huntington are fighting him. I wonder how much of it is exaggerated to make good tv (and radio). I was also amazed at the grade-schoolers who didn't recognize a tomato or a potato. I know they were very young, but we're not talking about exotic foods here. The french fry is the staple of their diet, but they don't even know what a real potato looks like? No wonder childhood obesity is such an epidemic. More power to you, Jamie - keep on trying to conquer!
Re: Survivor **DEFINITE spoiler**
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Reply to: #503348 by storm rider
Apr 5, 2010 8:23pm
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Coach laughable???? Augh!!!! I can't even go the bathroom without seeing that guy! Seriously. I went out to dinner the other night and as I was heading to the restroom, there he was sitting in the bar, talking to some elder guy. If he had seen me, I sure he would have thought I was insane . . . claws drawn and everything!

And then I saw in the paper, because it's all about Ben Wade these day, again an advertisement to watch Survivor with HIM!!!!!! AUGH!!!!!

slick kitty
LOST *possible spoiler*
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Apr 7, 2010 5:53am
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Seriously, the answers I'm getting from watching these final episodes is astounding.

No really, I have more questions than EVER now. Seriously....can a woman get an answer?!
Re: LOST *possible spoiler*
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Reply to: #503942 by Sweet n Sassy
Apr 7, 2010 6:15am
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Seriously....can a woman get an answer?!

I would give you an answer...

but instead I'm going to stare quietly and meaningfully at you, without saying anything. I might even shake my head or sigh.

And, for some reason, you're going to be ok with that.
Re: LOST *possible spoiler*
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Reply to: #503953 by Force of Five
Apr 7, 2010 6:44am
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That sounds awfully like flirting, FOF. ;-D

Is any body else getting hot?
Fanning self, OD
Snort......
Re: LOST *possible spoiler*
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Reply to: #503942 by Sweet n Sassy
Apr 7, 2010 7:20am
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We might not be getting answers directly, but I am completely loving this season! Every week I say "that was my favorite episode!". I have waited far too long for Desmond to return - today I am in heaven! =)
90210
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Apr 7, 2010 7:29am
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Is anyone else following 90210 this season? I was a huge fan of the earlier series when I was in Jr. High and now that it is remade I sarted watching it....now I can't stop, I love it!
Re: 90210
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Reply to: #503978 by Turtlegirl 19
Apr 7, 2010 7:34am
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Yea, I totally watched the original 90210 and I'm addicted to the new version; but, it's definetly not something I would want my teenager to watch. It seems as though the kids run around with little to no parental supervision at all and act more like adults than kids. Still, I can't stop watching myself.
Re: 90210
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Reply to: #503978 by Turtlegirl 19
Apr 7, 2010 7:34am
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I watch it too.

BAC
*whispering*
;-)