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Re: NC permitting
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3541 by Dee and Abby
Apr 14, 2005 7:20pm
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Dee,

Thanks for your efforts on behalf of all us NC boxers. I think the bottom line is that they don't get that a box in, say, Crowder's Mtn. park might sit there for four weeks at a time with no action. When we found Jen's box as FF, it had been there for about three weeks already. Depending on the amount of traffic in a given park, a box could sit there for that 3-month period with absolutely no action, as you well know.

Now the state is planning to put a new park in Hickory Nut Gorge near Chimney Rock and we're supposed to be all excited about it. Well, guess what? If I drive out there, I'll pay the $14 to go to Chimney Rock and get Munchkin Stamper's seven boxes! So there! ;-)

Thanks again. Looking forward to meeting you at Paris Mtn.

Knit Wit
Re: NC permitting
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3566 by knit wit
Apr 15, 2005 9:01am
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No Problem Knit Wit! I feel this is an important issue and I don't want to see it spill over into other states as well.
The response I received from Walt this morning...
Good afternoon,

You make some good points that were considered when developing our policy. Unfortunately, not all of those participating in this recreation have the same ethic as you or follow the same rules. In my response I just gave you some of the problems we encountered leading toward implementing some reasonable control. For example, we have removed several caches located on the edge of dangerous cliffs or waterfalls. Located in such a manner that encouraged participates to risk falling to reach the cache. Many young people participate in this activity and are willing to take such risk to obtain their goal. Visitor safety is a paramount concern for us.

I want you to understsand our policy and management of this recreational activity is on a trial basis . We will review this activity over time and, depending on the incidents encountered, decide whether to put in place a more lenient policy.

Again, thanks for your interest and for bringing your concerns forward.

Walt


All lboxers might want to email him with their concerns as well. Seeing as how they plan to discuss this again at a later date, I beleive if they see that boxers (which they know numbers are growing) will not visit their parks in droves, they may see the errors of their ways.

Who knows, can't hurt!!

Dee
Re: NC permitting
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3586 by Dee and Abby
Apr 15, 2005 12:37pm
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Quote In my response I just gave you some of the problems we encountered leading toward implementing some reasonable control.


And they think that price is "reasonable"??? I can understand their wanting some say over where caches and boxes are placed, and I can even understand charging a small one-time fee, since a ranger's time would be taken up working with the planter to get the box/cache in place, but that kind of cost is just crazy! And to have it come due evern 3 months is even crazier!

DebBee
Re: NC permitting
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3598 by DebBee
Apr 15, 2005 2:08pm
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Quote I can even understand charging a small one-time fee, since a ranger's time would be taken up working with the planter to get the box/cache in place, but that kind of cost is just crazy! And to have it come due evern 3 months is even crazier!


Unless the charge is set high to discourage placers...then the cost probably makes perfect sense, to them.

Maine Mom of 123Family
First Finders for the first time!
Board: Region: Southeast
Apr 18, 2005 5:05am
What a wonderful way to start the weekend! I got first finder's for the first time ever! The box had been there for a couple of weeks and I just didn't have the time to go seek it out. I was SURE that SOMEone had found it and just hadn't gotten around to posting the find. Sooo-I decided I didn't care-I wanted that box!

I drove out there-and found the spot-and saw something odd about the box. I carried the box a ways away and then I opened it up and learned I was first finder! Well, it is a good thing there was noone else ANYWHERE around-because everything I was holding went flying as I did the first finder's dance! I am afraid I was a very undignified first finder! With my stuff scattered all over the place (quite literally) I called the owner of the box to let them know!

I was shaking head to foot and had to calm down a few minutes if I was going to be able to stamp in and have it actually LOOK like something other than a blue blob on the page. Sooo-I chatted with the box owner who MUST think I am totally insane by now and then when I got off the phone I was almost calm enough to st...err...oh dang! My stamp and stamp pad and log book and pen had gone FLYING when I did my dance! There would be ABSOLUTELY NO stamping in until I sought them out in the places they had landed!

Sooo-another 10 minutes of searching around the site for my stuff-and to clean all the debris off the bottom of my stamp (did you know that stamps have this uncanny ability to attract leaves and stuff to them?) and then I GLADLY stamped in-now covered head to toe MYSELF in blue ink! (Anyone who has ever gone boxing with me KNOWS I get covered in ink every time-but this was a bit extreme even for ME!).

Anyways, I am all stamped in and the box is safely back when it belongs and I didn;t even get pulled over from my oddly shaking car going down the road as I continued my first finder dance all the way home and on through the weekend-even singing the first finder song! Yep-there IS a first finder song that seems to go quite well with the dance. Though it must look funny, because my dear sweet kitty wanted NOTHING to do with me when I got home-his eyes got this wild look and he RAN AWAY FROM ME!!!!!

Brook
Welcome to AQ, She Who Plants!
Board: Region: Southeast
Apr 27, 2005 2:21pm
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Hey! I see that She Who Plants is adding boxes to AQ! Woohoo! Welcome aboard, SWP!

Amyrica
Re: Welcome to AQ, She Who Plants!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3816 by Amyrica
Apr 27, 2005 3:58pm
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My brother-in-law lives in Nashville. I see we need to pay him a visit.

Weyrwoman
Re: Welcome to AQ, She Who Plants!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3819 by Weyrwoman
May 2, 2005 7:50am
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Let me know when Weyrwoman! A friend of mine JUST moved up there and has a place for me to stay! I plnan on making a trip this summer. Just not sure exactly when!!

Dee & Abby
Re: Welcome to AQ, She Who Plants!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3906 by Dee and Abby
May 2, 2005 11:17am
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I don't know when it will be possible for me. I'm due July 9th, so if I can't get up there before then, it will be a while. I'll look into it though.

Weyrwoman
Re: Welcome to AQ, She Who Plants!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3911 by Weyrwoman
May 2, 2005 12:07pm
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Congrats! Oh yeah, that is why you won't be joining us at LbSE gathering at Stone Mountain!
Well maybe someday! Hopefully then I can meet the little boxer!!

Dee
Pink Flamingos held for ransom!
Board: Region: Southeast
May 4, 2005 12:32pm
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I just heard on the radio that some plastic pink flamingos where kidnapped from people's lawns and are being held for ransom by a bunch of hooligans for Snickers bars. And they're threatening that "pink heads will roll" if their demands aren't met!

I didn't catch where this happened, so DeeBee, please tell us that your flamingos are safe!

-- Ryan
Re: Pink Flamingos held for ransom!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3950 by Green Tortuga
May 4, 2005 2:15pm
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Quote DeeBee, please tell us that your flamingos are safe!


I hadn't heard about those particular flamingos, but I did have one stolen at Christmas. It was a cool, light-up one, and its head bobbed up and down. I had it set up so it looked like it was hanging a Christmas ornament on a light-up tree. It was so cute. Then some cretin took my bird! It's simply scandalous. These fiends will stop at nothing! Maybe we should organize a posse.

DebBee
Back from our trip!
Board: Region: Southeast
May 5, 2005 11:06am
Well, we're back from our trip, and we had a wonderful time! We went to Jekyll Island, Savannah and Tybee Island. Of course, we had a few minor detours along the way for our letterboxing adventures! We attempted 9 letterboxes, and found 7. Amongst our finds (I can't tell all the ones we found) were:
- Peach Water Tower
- Ondbay Ampsway (2 boxes)
- Beware the Fish, Hawks and Fish Hawks!
- Beware the End! ,
all of which are in pretty good repair.

We attempted and were unable to find:
- Flutterby 475 (we couldn't get it because the place was packed, and I mean PACKED with people)
- Abandoned WW II Airstrip
- Georgia Peanut
Those last two I am pretty sure the boxes must be missing. We were particularly bummed to miss out on the "Abandoned" box, but I must say that that clue, and the "Peanut" clue both led us to fantastic places that we will definitely revisit. We wouldn't have found these spots if we hadn't been trying for the letterboxes, so even if we couldn't log the finds we were glad to have been there.

I suspect that we were first finders of "Beware the End!", but since it was a hybrid geocache/letterbox I am unsure. I'll ask the placer. It's a 6 mile hike roundtrip, so it's possible we were the first to do it! It was a nice walk, but if you are considering it, I'd recommend taking bikes instead. It would be easy to do. Oh, and go before it gets too hot in the day, wear lots of sunscreen and bring bug repellent! If you like to birdwatch (or boat or plane watch), bring binoculars too. We enjoyed it.

As a matter of fact, letterboxing on this trip has left us all with a very attractive sprinkling of bug bites all over ourselves! It seems no matter where we went, the mosquitoes and ticks found us. I am so glad it was windy when we went to Ondbay Ampsway, because otherwise the mosquitoes would have kept us from enjoying a very nice park! Bug spray was a vital ingredient on this trip, so if you try any of these boxes, definitely bring some! :)

Finally, I'd like to add that I'd never been to Jekyll Island before, and it was FANTASTIC. We LOVED it. We relaxed, rented bikes and rode around, walked the historic section, and generally enjoyed ourselves. If you get a chance to go, I highly recommend it. If you'd like a lovely place to stay, try the Jekyll Island Club Hotel. Normally we wouldn't be able to afford it, but I checked their website and they were offering rooms at 1/2 price on certain days. Apparently, they run specials regularly on their website, so it's worth a look. We also recommend the campground on Jekyll- less luxurious, but very pleasant and MUCH cheaper! :)

Hope everyone is doing well and has been able to enjoy some of this cooler, sunny weather!
Later,
KitCat
Re: Pink Flamingos held for ransom!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3951 by DebBee
May 5, 2005 12:23pm
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some cretin took my bird! It's simply scandalous. These fiends will stop at nothing! Maybe we should organize a posse.

I can just imagine a posse of letterboxers hunting down a pat of flamingo filchers... when the filchers are apprehend by the 'boxers, their hands are sleeved in heavy-duty ziplock baggies, their feet are encased in super-size Rubbermaid containers, they're tied to trees with waterproof (or duck) tape, and are stamped superfluously with stamps carved specially for the occasion...

On a lighter note (chuckle):

http://www.flamingostampede.com/facts.html

SteveS
Re: Pink Flamingos held for ransom!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3962 by BrewHiker
May 5, 2005 12:34pm
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What a fascinating website! I laughed when I saw that the plastic flamingos outnumbered the lives ones, though I can't really say I'm surprised. I'm more surprised that someone would actually try to figure such a thing out.

But what about this?

Quote 1 out of 300 people have a irrational fear of flamingos.


That seems like a surprisingly large number of people with an irrational fear of flamingos. I hope that didn't turn anyone off from the gathering in Florida earlier this year!

-- Ryan
Re: Pink Flamingos held for ransom!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3964 by Green Tortuga
May 5, 2005 1:23pm
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Quote I hope that didn't turn anyone off from the gathering in Florida earlier this year!


Especially since all of our flamingos were very well trained and docile!

DebBee
Re: Pink Flamingos held for ransom!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3950 by Green Tortuga
May 5, 2005 4:52pm
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Last fall, our neighbor "flamingoed" our lawn. One morning, I go out and find like 20 plastic flamingoes out on the lawn and busted out laughing! I did not tell Mrs. Lightnin Bug, but got a call at work about 1 hour later from the Mrs. asking if I saw the flamingoes. Our neighbor did it to celebrate the beginning of school and being liberated from her little gremlins for most of the day.

LB
Re: Pink Flamingos held for ransom!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3967 by LightninBug
May 5, 2005 5:20pm
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I read a suggestion for a fund raiser groups can do. They put pink plastic flamingos on people's lawn with a note around their necks saying for a donation to the group, they'll remove them! Or, for a larger donation, they'll remove them and put them on the yard of your choice.

DebBee
Kings Mountain Ltrbox
Board: Region: Southeast
May 15, 2005 8:35pm
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The box had to be moved, and the clues have been ammended.

jennifer
Re: Kings Mountain Ltrbox
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4188 by Jensgreycar
May 15, 2005 8:41pm
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This is tooo funny! Just today, a friend and I headed up King's Mountain to hide four new letterboxes... The only thing is, OUR King's Mountain is in Oregon. When I saw your post, I wondered how anyone could've moved our boxes and changed the clues before the clues had ever been posted... I do hope your mountain has as many gorgeous wildflowers as ours. Funhog
Re: Kings Mountain Ltrbox
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4205 by The Wolf Family
May 17, 2005 6:43am
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No funhog, our state park is mostly wood, and right next to a national battlefield park. But it is very beautiful. There is a lake and a stream, but very few open area, and not enough hiking trails. I would like for our scouting troops to strike some new trails out there, so I will have some places for some new boxes. Ha-Ha!

Wolf family, not it didn't move far, but it was supposed to be in the crook of the three trees and it kept falling our so it was moved. And a little revision of the peom was needed.

jennifer
Re: Kings Mountain Ltrbox
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4210 by Jensgreycar
May 17, 2005 7:35am
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Quote No funhog, our state park is mostly wood, and right next to a national battlefield park. But it is very beautiful.


Well, ours is a bona fide kick-ass hike, gaining nearly 2800 feet in elevation in 2.5 miles. Then... you have to come down the thing. However, the forest on the way up is lush and the meadow at the top is absolutely stunning. Now there are boxes to add to the experience. C'mon and visit our King's Mountain! Funhog
Re: Kings Mountain Ltrbox
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4210 by Jensgreycar
May 17, 2005 6:40pm
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Jen,
I highly recommend (if you want a good hike) Crowder's Mountain.. just a cow patty's toss from Kings Mtn... ;-D er, NC that is.
Re: Kings Mountain Ltrbox
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4238 by Alyson Wonderland
May 18, 2005 9:01am
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Quote I highly recommend (if you want a good hike) Crowder's Mountain..


If I may be so bold, unfortunately Jen is quite familiar with Crowder's Mountain and the rangers' diligence in removing letterboxes. It was a wonderful hike for a great stamp. Too bad it didn't hang around longer.

Knit Wit
Re: Kings Mountain Ltrbox
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4261 by knit wit
May 18, 2005 1:14pm
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thanks Knit Wit !!!!!

yeah I know about crowder's, sore subject though huh!!!

jennifer
Dee and Abby--THANK YOU!
Board: Region: Southeast
May 18, 2005 7:06pm
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Hi folks!

My children met Dee and Abby a few weeks ago at Lady Buzz's Preeclampsia Walk. They fell in love with Abby and thought Dee was quite funny also.

This afternoon I finally sprung it on them that our trip to Greenville this weekend wasn't only for the purpose of visiting Granny. They rolled their eyes when I told them about the gathering. Shooting T even declared that she wanted to be dropped off at Granny's house to hang out there while the rest of us attended the gathering.

So, I played my trump card. I said, "Sure, but you'll miss Dee and Abby." Wouldn't you know it, she turned on a dime and said she definitely wanted to join us so she could "hold her baby" (Abby). Hahahahahaha!

THANK YOU DEE!

Now, I just have to nurse Giraffe back to health or he may be the one being dropped off at Granny's beforehand!

Amyrica
Giraffe
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4287 by Amyrica
May 18, 2005 9:57pm
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Hi Amyrica

I hope everything is going OK for your Giraffe
=0/

S~N~K
Re: Giraffe
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4292 by Sits N Knits
May 19, 2005 6:11am
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Thanks for the good thoughts, SNK.

He'll be fine. It's a cold or something non-life-threatening. It's just that in HIS mind, it's the plague.....

Amyrica
Re: Dee and Abby--THANK YOU!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4287 by Amyrica
May 19, 2005 7:14am
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OH NO! Amyrica I can't bring Abby due to the hotel!!! I am very glad they are cvoming but I do not want to disappoint Shooting T!!

I don't know why but I JUST saw this post!!

I will see what I can do but Christopher and I are staying for a night and going to enjoy downtown Grewnville Sunday. We are worried we will not be able to go out to eat or do anything!

Dee
Re: Giraffe
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #4296 by Amyrica
May 19, 2005 7:19am
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He'll be fine. It's a cold or something non-life-threatening. It's just that in HIS mind, it's the plague.....

Amyrica - Does he possibly WANT to go to Granny's instead of the gathering????? Maybe that is why his head is telling him he's sick, LOL!!!

Tell Shooting T to come and see me anyway!!

Dee