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Re: Cherokee Rose is famous!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2864 by DebBee
Mar 10, 2005 4:15pm
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Ah Ryan,
Another reason to put Mark and Sue's place furhter up on "My Page" !!
Re: Cherokee Rose is famous!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2867 by bzmom
Mar 10, 2005 6:05pm
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Quote Another reason to put Mark and Sue's place furhter up on "My Page" !!


Don't worry--it will be in the next big update. Probably around mid-April, at this point. I'd do it sooner, but I don't like the idea of uploading new code just before leaving for Panama for a couple of weeks because if something goes wrong, it won't be easy for me to fix it out there!

But shortly after getting back, I should have lots of fun new stuff to upload. =)

-- Ryan
Re: Cherokee Rose is famous!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2873 by Green Tortuga
Mar 10, 2005 6:11pm
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But shortly after getting back, I should have lots of fun new stuff to upload. =)


Yippee!! Can't wait!
Re: Cherokee Rose is famous!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2864 by DebBee
Mar 10, 2005 7:45pm
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OK OK,,, I FINALLY saw the page everyone has been talking about! How cool! But why me?!

But, Thanks Mark & Sue for promoting my box.

CR
Re: Cherokee Rose is famous!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2877 by Cherokee Rose
Mar 10, 2005 8:15pm
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Quote How cool! But why me?!


Well, duh! Because you're FAMOUS!!!! ;o)

-- Ryan
Re: Boxes in North GA mountains?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2819 by KitCat
Mar 10, 2005 9:18pm
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I know there is at least one geocache somewhere on a trail where I'd like to plant, since we met some cachers hiking there when we went to scout a location. But I realize it's presence doesn't necessarily mean boxing is "allowed".


Geocaching polices itself much tighter than letterboxing does. If there is a known rule against geocaching in a certain park, or type of park, then neither the website moderators nor the local associations would allow that cache to be listed, nor remain in place.

That goes double in Georgia, where the local geocachers association polices themselves as strictly as anyone. If there is a geocache along a trail that you're looking at, then it's allowed by that land manager's rules and you can plant there too.
Re: Cherokee Rose is famous!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2858 by Amyrica
Mar 11, 2005 5:03am
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Way to Go CR!!

How does it feel to be famous??

sweetiesmom
Re: Cherokee Rose is famous!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2884 by sweetiesmom
Mar 11, 2005 5:50am
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I must admit it was very cool to open Mark & Sue's page to see my box listed! I would like to thank Mark & Sue for their kind words and promoing my box. I do know it is an honor and for that I am most grateful!

Also, Congratulations go out to Dee and Abby for being the first finders of this box series already! Wow girl you are fast!

Cherokee Rose
Re: Cherokee Rose is famous!
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2885 by Cherokee Rose
Mar 11, 2005 5:52am
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"Congratulations go out to Dee and Abby for being the first finders of this box series already! Wow girl you are fast!"

Thanks CR but we weren't about to let one of these crazy folks get FF! LOL

Dee
Thanks CR but we weren't about to let one of these crazy....
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2886 by Dee and Abby
Mar 11, 2005 5:59am
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Oh Oh Wait a minute! Crazy Folks..... hummmmm well it seems to me I heard a story about this little girl driving like a MAD WOMAN to SMYRNA then to MARIETTA and then BACK
to her WORK, being 6 minutes LATE mind you from her LUNCH HOUR, I might add!!! So Miss Dee, are you SURE you want to call these folds crazy!!! LOL LOL HE he.he ;~0 :~)

Now Dee you know I am kidding you. I can do this because I have been in your shoes. LOL.... Remember my story about the Berry box's! LOL>..... ;~)

CR
Re: Thanks CR but we weren't about to let one of these crazy
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2887 by Cherokee Rose
Mar 11, 2005 6:38am
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I know I'm as crazy if not more than the rest of these folks! NO Denial here! LOL
But I still didn't want one of these other crazy folks getting FF, I love CR's FF prizes!!!
L & N Depot PLB
Board: Region: Southeast
Mar 11, 2005 10:10am
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I am searching for the L & N Depot PLB. I sent it to Daniel Quinney in West Jordan, Ut. on Feb 28th and it arrived there on March 2nd, but I have not heard any confirmation or anything since. I have posted to the "Big" board and to our SE group with no answer. So if anyone knows how to get intouch with Daniel or maybe has the box please please let me know.

Thanks

Cherokee Rose
Re: L & N Depot PLB
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2891 by Cherokee Rose
Mar 11, 2005 10:48am
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You might post your concerns and message to the postal letterbox list on both Atlas Quest and Yahoo groups.

I am very sad to hear the box status is up in the air.

Hope you find it soon.

Silly ol Bear
Red Ribbon Day
Board: Region: Southeast
Mar 12, 2005 5:31pm
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We got our red ribbon today and got bumped up a notch on the Hall of Fame page. yippee!

-Red's Bunch
Re: Boxes in North GA mountains?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2819 by KitCat
Mar 12, 2005 6:24pm
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Thank you, everyone, for the helpful comments!! It's sounding like there's a good chance I can place boxes in some of our favorite spots without undue fear of breaking the rules. Good! Now I just need to scout more spots and write some clues. Carving will be the fun part! (As if it's not all cool!) Don't hold your breath, because I barely have time to hunt boxes these days, but I am looking forward to providing some more reasons to visit the mountains. :)

I know the distance from here and the hikes involved will mean I can't check them as often as I would otherwise, but I think I will still be able to get up there fairly often. I love boxes that involve a lovely, but break-a-sweat sort of hike. We tend to box in single and double finds, rather than trying to pack a ton into one trip. Guess that's why we're still only at F13! :)

I plan on providing a heads-up about bears and hunters in my clues, but thank you for the reminder! I have to remember that lots of boxers may not have a lot of experience with the area.

Ooh, I'm getting all excited about placing, now. Wonder if I should start with a local box, just to get my feet wet?
KitCat
Re: Red Ribbon Day
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2924 by Reds Bunch
Mar 12, 2005 7:18pm
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That is so cool! Congratulations on RED, RED!

CR
AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Mar 15, 2005 5:18am
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It is often said that "Imitation is the best form of flattery". Is this true in the letterboxing world?

What I mean is, would you be happy if another boxer created a clue that was similar to yours? what if it was a mystery clue? would it be okay if they asked permission?

For example, would Red be upset if someone created another "Restless Dreams" type box? or Eli & Aubrey be upset if there was another "Prisoner" clue out there? or would they be excited because someone else liked there clue style so much that they created a similar one for others to experience (maybe in a different part of the country).

Or should we all be challenging ourselves to create new and different styles of boxes?

Just curious what everyone thinks.

BBB
Sig Stamp
Board: Region: Southeast
Mar 15, 2005 5:51am
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I carved my sig stamp last night!!! No more store bought for me!!!!
Re: AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2962 by Boxing Bee Bunch
Mar 15, 2005 9:32am
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I'm stickin my nose in from California. I asked Ryan before we copied his SLO Walking Tour letterbox clue code. Since that time we have used it several times and some folks have copied our use of the code as well. We have used similar types of code as well, and we even have one mystery type LB that only specifies that you have to check other letterboxers' property to get the key. In that one we list the trail names of the letterboxers. I think that it is best to ask, but since we asked Ryan, no one has asked us and that is ok by us.
Don
Re: AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2962 by Boxing Bee Bunch
Mar 15, 2005 11:05am
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Quote What I mean is, would you be happy if another boxer created a clue that was similar to yours? what if it was a mystery clue? would it be okay if they asked permission?

***snip***

Or should we all be challenging ourselves to create new and different styles of boxes?


My short answer, yes. To both ideas.

My longer answer is that there is rarely anything new being done when it comes to clue writing. Every idea I ever came up with has probably been done before, and I'm certain will be done again somewhere else. All you can really do at that point is try to do it as well or better, and make it an homage of sorts. I don't see the need to ask "permission" to do things in a similar style to what's already been done.

Should we try to create new and different styles? Absolutely. And the best place to start is by looking at what good things have already been done and doing something similar. With our own twist. And maybe after adding something or taking away something we've found ourselves a whole new thing.

Every good idea or artistic endeavor was built on all the good ideas or artistic endeavors that preceded it. It works that way in art, music, writing, cooking, rubberstamp art, software design, politics, electronics, healthcare, education... and so on.

There are limits. I don't think imitating "style" is plagerism, but someone without much creativity of there own may end up taking their duplications too far. There is probably an invisible line that shouldn't be crossed. I think we'd be doing the polite thing by getting "permission" when we start getting close to that invisible line. For example, it would be okay to use a cyper, but I think it would be tacky to use the exact same cypher key used in someone else's clues. Even tackier if both sets of clues are for boxes in the same region. Or state. Or county. Or park.

As for those who are trying very hard to be creative with their clue-writing, my guess is that they are out to beat what's been done before, rather than duplicate it. Same goes for carving, log-book making, and hiding letterboxes. "Competition" of this sort benefits everyone.

-Red
Re: AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2962 by Boxing Bee Bunch
Mar 15, 2005 1:16pm
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Quote It is often said that "Imitation is the best form of flattery". Is this true in the letterboxing world?


I have these same thoughts about hiding boxes. Part of the fun is going someplace new to find a box. But what about when there are multiple boxes hidden in one park? Does it detract from the originalityof the first hiding place, or does it just attract more visitors b/c there are more finds to be had? Maybe some of both...

What do you all think?

sweetiesmom
Re: AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2971 by sweetiesmom
Mar 15, 2005 2:09pm
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Quote But what about when there are multiple boxes hidden in one park?


I had those thoughts back when I first started placing. One of the notes in my logbook announced that the person was going to plant more boxes in that same park. I was immediately nervous, thinking that might be "overkill," but I reserved judgement, because at the same time I was thrilled there was anyone else in the area interested in planting at all!

As it turned out, she led me to two different areas of the park that I wasn't familiar with, and she did a really nice job of tying the box theme into the spots the boxes were hidden. So from then on, I pretty much try to trust the other boxer to find good spots.

And that park's the one we had the gathering in, so now there are even MORE boxes in there!

DebBee
Re: AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2971 by sweetiesmom
Mar 15, 2005 2:50pm
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Quote Does it detract from the originalityof the first hiding place, or does it just attract more visitors b/c there are more finds to be had?..sweeties mom...


I think it really depends on the area. Some parks are huge and can handle multiple plantings. Some are so small it would be flooding/forcing the area with them, then it might take away from the 'originality'.

I do think the more boxes in an area the more visitors will head that way.



Quote I was immediately nervous, thinking that might be "overkill," but I reserved judgement, because at the same time I was thrilled there was anyone else in the area interested in planting at all!...DebBee ...


Do you think you might have felt less nervous if she asked if you minded first rather than announce it in your logbook? In your situation it worked out great. I wonder though about folks that have planted and intended to add boxes to a location and someone moving in and "taking over". Then the other person might not be able to finish their series.

I think there will be a lot of different views on this. Some might feel slighted because no asked if they minded. Some might not realize there is a box there already. Some folks might just plain old stake out their territory and who knows what would happen. Everyone is different and will react differenlty. I imagine that I would write and ask the person if they minded before setting out and planting. I would not want to take away from someone else's project.

Other folks have planted in the same parks that we have. One person did not realize since they did not yet solve one of Red's crazy clues. One did not see it listed before they headed out on their journey. The other, I am just not really sure how that one happened. My guess is that the box wasn't published until later. I did not have hurt feelings because other folks planted there. It did not in anyway take away from the boxes that we planted. I am pretty sure Red would agree.


Just some thoughts, no real opinion one way or the other, on another interesting topic.

Silly ol Bear
Re: Sig Stamp
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2963 by Brook
Mar 15, 2005 3:26pm
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Good job Brook looks good but neds to be bigger on your profile page. I believe it is a Tiger? If so be sure to get my PT at the next SE gathering.

Boxdn
Re: AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2962 by Boxing Bee Bunch
Mar 15, 2005 3:49pm
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It's going to happen to everyone once or twice. I've have great ideas for stamps to find out after starting the series someone was doing the same thing, but they are in a different part of the country so no biggie. Then I had carved a small series and then found out someone posted clues to the same area with the same stamp.(those stamps are still sitting on the shelf) One of my mystery boxes has a box planted spitting distance from it but the planter didn't know and still doesn't. I've planted in parks that had Mysteries but would never compromise the mystery. I do believe there is a limit to how many boxes a certain area should have but that number would different for each place. When I planted Box#14-VT I didn't know there were so many boxes already there and one so close.
So any imitations I may have done came from trying to be original.:o) The only letterboxing item I claim to be copy writed would be my P stamp, anything thing else feel free to copy.

Boxdn
Re: AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2976 by Silly Ol Bear
Mar 15, 2005 5:16pm
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Quote Do you think you might have felt less nervous if she asked if you minded first rather than announce it in your logbook?


Hmmm. If she'd asked, I'd probably have expressed my concerns, and that might have talked her out of planting there, since we didn't know each other at all then. That, as it turned out, would have been very bad, because her boxes are a great addition to the park.

DebBee
Re: AQ - LBSE - Topic for Discussion - Imitation?
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2978 by BOXDN
Mar 15, 2005 8:17pm
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Speaking of Vt # 14... Just wanted you to know I recieved the replacement log book and will plant it soon!

CR
Re: Sig Stamp
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #2977 by BOXDN
Mar 16, 2005 3:36am
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Actually, the tiger on my page isn't the stamp. I tried to put my stamp on there, but I guess it is too big.


Brook
Re: Sig Stamp
Board: Region: Southeast
Reply to: #3009 by Brook
Mar 23, 2005 12:20pm
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Hmm...funny-today my sig stamp is showing up in my bio! Go figure!

Brook
One-Day-Only Letterbox in Georgia!
Board: Region: Southeast
Mar 23, 2005 1:53pm
(My apologies for the cross-posting. I think this is an important enough message to warrant it!)

Hello friends!

I know I've been MIA for a while, and I hope you'll soon see why.

Tomorrow is Blue Giraffe's 5th birthday. Five years ago tomorrow,
something went horribly wrong with my pregnancy, and I ended up in
an ambulance and later delivering a one-and-a-half pound baby via
emergency c-section. He and I are both very lucky to have survived
and to be as healthy as we are.

That "something" that went wrong was preeclampsia, and I had it
again (although not as severely) when I was pregnant with Little
Turtle. Many of you know that I am now the Georgia Group
Coordinator for the Preeclampsia Foundation. On MAY 7, we're having
our First Annual Walk-A-Thon to raise awareness and research funds
for the disease. The Atlanta walk will be one of over 15 walks
around the U.S.

So, onto the FUN part! I am planting a one-day-only box in an area
near the Walk-A-Thon site in Norcross. The ONLY way to get these
clues is to register & walk! I am carving a special stamp and
making an extra-special logbook for this box, and the stamp will
only be available to those who participate in the walk. (PLEASE do
not treat this as a WOM box.)

Lastly, many thanks to Mark, who has provided a site for interested
boxers. http://www.geocities.com/dividedeye/clamp.html

I look forward to seeing a lot of you on the trail!

Hugs,
Lady Buzz