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Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Jan 25, 2019 5:59pm
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In another thread we were discussing some ***LARGE*** linoleum carves. We foot wrote that she has some large sheets of Tan-Z available for price plus shipping.

The questions on the table for discussion are:

1) If commissioned to carve a stamp on your favorite carving material, how big would you be willing to go?

Personally, I probably couldn't stand to do more than a square foot per month for a maximum of 3 or 4 months.

2) If given a piece of your favorite carving material just for this purpose, how large of a letterboxing stamp would you carve and be able to hide?

Personally, I could carve one to fit in an ammo can. I don't have one with me at the moment or at hand in a few minutes, but I think that I could fit a 6" by 12" stamp in that. Depending on detail and time I would be willing to do that. That is if I were given the material for that purpose?

As a side question, what is the largest stamp you have planted or found? The largest I've planted is LTC size. The largest I've found is about 5" by 8", in Morgan County, Utah if you care to look for it.
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970669 by Oberon_Kenobi
Jan 25, 2019 6:42pm
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A large stamp, with a lot of detail to them, are quite a blast to find and create. I have created a 7" x7" stamp and have found a 10" x 10" stamp in the wild.

Creativity will allow for some really good sized carves... imagine the back of a large framed picture hanging on a wall...with a large, yet thin, logbook and stamp, one could go maybe 2' x4'!! Or even bigger. One would probably need to have people bring a brayer, lay the huge stamp on the floor, ink it then put large newsprint paper over it then bray for image. It would be awesome, certainly! Even better would be to recreate the picture that the stamp is hidden behind, or something very similar or related.
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970669 by Oberon_Kenobi
Jan 25, 2019 7:56pm
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The Dawnlanders Uprising box in Ninigret Park in R.I. contained a 12” x 12” linoleum stamp of Bob Marley (circa 2003?) that was way cool but it was very tough to get the image stamped clearly (multicolored to boot)

Warrior Woman
found it and had to go back with a giant sheet of paper to get the image
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970669 by Oberon_Kenobi
Jan 25, 2019 8:10pm
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I’m of two minds about this. I love big art. See Chuck Close for example:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/gs-geo-images/fc0030b1-6b72-4cfe-860e-9014fac99c04.jpeg

I thought the whale print was nice and pretty spectacular. But I thought Giralel was too big. As art anyway. It was an amazing feat of carving and printing but it seemed more of a stunt to me than art.

I’d happily carve a monster stamp of, say, ammo box size IF I thought people wouldn’t complain about it being too big for their logbook or if I lived in an area of the country that saw a lot more ‘boxing action.

Carving big for art’s sake is another matter. I’ve considered doing prints for sale. And if I do, I’ll probably carve bigger than LTC size. I do have to admit that carving something large has its appeal. Hmmmm...

I carved a sandwich size stamp once I think, early on, that I put in a LnL.
The largest stamp I’ve found in the wild a magnificent piece by Lost Sailor.
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970669 by Oberon_Kenobi
Jan 25, 2019 10:33pm
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These past few months I've been having I desire to carve a large stamp. Something that could fit on a 8.5 by 11 sheet of paper. That size only because it would be easy to store in a binder once it's printed. But I have yet to decide on image.

I have not found any stamps in the wild that are really any bigger than LTC size. I have not planted any stamps any bigger than LTC size. I kind of think trying to hide a stamp that's big could be an interesting task.

If I was commissioned/paid to do a large carving I don't know if I would really have a size limit. But I can't imagine working on one carving for more than a few months. I think I would get bored of it after a while.
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970669 by Oberon_Kenobi
Jan 26, 2019 12:10am
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I've gotten some larger stamps that had clearly been carved all at once but the portioned off into puzzle blocks or pieces for stamping/hiding more manageably. They were fun! Personally my log book is kind of small compared to others so if you mentioned the size in the clues, finders could bring a larger piece of stamping material. People will always complain about something! Carve what makes you happy!
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970676 by gemini girl
Jan 26, 2019 1:15am
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I think the largest stamp I ever found in the wild was a hitchhiker that was about 6" square and probably took the carver about two minutes to hack it out of an entire slab of Speedy-Cut with a steak knife.

I did find another stamp that was nearly that size, probably at least 5" square, but oddly enough it had five separate images on it -- one in each corner and one in the center. There was at least a half inch of clear space separating each image, so it would have been a simple matter to slice it up into five separate stamps. That was one of the first stamps I had ever found carved on orange PZ Kut.
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970670 by FORAYCH
Jan 26, 2019 11:01am
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[...] put large newsprint paper over it then bray for image.

Like this?

This is a better example.
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970669 by Oberon_Kenobi
Jan 28, 2019 7:16pm
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The largest I have in the field is about 4x6.
The largest I have found in the field (permanent plant) is 3x5-ish.
The largest stamp I have carved (event stamp) is about 7-8 x 5-ish.
The largest stamp I have carved (PT) is 5" diameter.
I carve on pink.

Lynn
Re: Friday Distraction: How Big Will You Go?
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Reply to: #970763 by Phoenix Rizing
Jan 28, 2019 7:31pm
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Let's take a little trip back in time...

Back in 2006, I had just recently started doing Postals. PZKut was in its heyday, and as a fairly new carver, I was very thankful for Webfoot and her dedication to providing us with a quality product. One fine day, Webfoot was discussing Stampeaz in a post. And the intrepid ArtGekko responded.

This gave me an idea...

A bunch of like-minded (read: equally goofy) carvers and I decided to make a Tribute Stamp, to thank Webfoot for her tireless (pun intended) work. It was to be a surprise, but in order to list it, I hid it in plain site in the trackers as PM43530 , which was code for "Post Message #43530", the messageboard post number of ArtGekko's post.

What was it? A full sheet of Orange PZKut, where we carved a full-slab "Stampeaz Bus" with large windows, and sent the slab around to each of the participants, who would carve their SigStamps into an empty window. To the best of my knowledge, this was the first Full-Slab Postal. Once completed, we (we = ArtGekko doing the actual work and me egging her on) made stamped copies of the completed image for each participant, and sent the slab (and logbook) to Webfoot. Surprise!

I have since done (participated in) other full-slab carvings, but this was the first. As far as I know.
How long does it take you?
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Feb 11, 2019 9:55am
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I asked someone earlier, and I decided to ask the rest of you. About how long on average does it take you to carve one stamp? I know that some are more detailed than others or that some are larger than others. I am just wondering in general. 🙂
Re: How long does it take you?
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 10:58am
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About an hour per square inch of rubber.
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 11:36am
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I would guess it's about a square inch an hour, but I can only carve for about 3 hours before I start making mistakes. I can lengthen that by another hour if I alternate complex tiny details areas with larger ones, or clean up along the edges of the stamp. It also varies a bit according to the hardness of the carving material. I tend to use harder material for the "best" stamps, and softer stuff for the smaller, simpler ones.
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 12:42pm
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I never carve anything all that elaborate, so something like a cartoon character, two inch by two inch size? Probably 20 mins at most.
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 12:55pm
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I consider myself fairly fast at carving. I think material and tools make for a huge difference in how long carving takes me. Oz and a miniaturized staedtler can take me upwards of 4 hours for a LTC sized stamp of average detail. Pink and a speedball #1 maybe 2 hours.
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 12:58pm
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I think that may be one of the things that changes with experience. When you're new at carving, the tendency is not to spend too long on a carve. Not because it's not worth it, but more because you're worried you're gonna mess it up. The idea of putting a couple of hours into a silly little piece of rubber only to accidentally hack a key piece out of it or turn a letter around backwards or some such just feels like it's not worth the risk.

As you gain experience and confidence, though, you are increasingly willing to tackle jobs that will take a lot of time to get right. The level of detail grows. Eventually you start looking for ideas for stamps that will take as *much* time as possible, because the time put into a carve shows.
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 1:58pm
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I agree with what others said. Mostly for me, carving is about focus and the question may be more about how long I can sustain that focus. The more detailed the carving, the more difficult and the longer I have to be focused. Generally, I can last about an hour. Sometimes I’ll put a stamp away overnight and work on it the next day in which case, it takes more time. So, for me, 1-2 hours for each LTC sized stamp.
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 4:13pm
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1-3 hours for each LTC sized stamp, depending on the complexity.
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 5:22pm
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Thank you for your input, Everyone. I carved my first stamp in a few years, and I felt like it took me a long time. Based on your feedback, maybe it did not take that long. However, it is much bigger than I planned. No worries. I simply need more practice. 🙂
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Reply to: #971327 by Maude
Feb 11, 2019 7:15pm
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I tend to use harder material for the "best" stamps, and softer stuff for the smaller, simpler ones.

I use the soft material for stamps that have large inked areas. I use hard material for when there are few inked areas.
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Reply to: #971336 by Kirbert
Feb 11, 2019 7:18pm
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The idea of putting a couple of hours into a silly little piece of rubber only to accidentally hack a key piece out of it or turn a letter around backwards or some such just feels like it's not worth the risk.

I've been able to glue in a piece that I should not have cut out. I've done it multiple times. I don't know if others have noticed these patches, but I have. FYI, I use E-6000 to glue them back in because it remains a little flexible.

I have one stamp where I carved a letter backwards. It was one that I did a toner transfer too, so I shouldn't have messed it up. Since it was one of the Ns in BANANA, I decided to leave it.
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Reply to: #971339 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Feb 11, 2019 7:40pm
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1-3 hours for each LTC sized stamp, depending on the complexity.

That's probably about right for me too. It definitely depends on complexity.

My longest carve (to that point) is of a lighthouse, Minot's Ledge Light. It must have taken at least 10 hours over 5 days. It is an excellent carve, except that the top of the lighthouse is crooked. I used it for two LTC trackers, but they didn't have the same participants (except for me).

However, after that I carved another that took me longer. It was of the "Snow Business" episode of Simon's Cat. The frame was when the cat was poised to start the throw of the first snowball at the bird. I captured as much detail in the frame as I could, which was most of it. This one was maybe 15 hours. The carve is slightly larger than the 2½"×3½" card because I wanted it stamping edge-to-edge.

Those long carves take time, but they are worth it.
Re: How long does it take you?
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 11, 2019 8:21pm
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About how long on average does it take you to carve one stamp?

Probably too long! :)

I most likely am in the slower category of carvers, but I have done detailed inchies in an hour and 5" x 5" stamps that took over 40+ hours. I probably am slower because I am careful, like Kirbert mentions, because I take on more and more difficult carves AND I don't do redos. Mistakes just become part of the work.

A great rule of thumb for speed of carving is...take as long as you want to feel like you are proud of your effort and work!

Challenging yourself for more and more detail can be great for some, and joy sucking for others. Carving fast may be easy for some and painful (literally - I tend to gouge my skin when going too fast) for others. Go at the pace you feel comfortable and find joy in the work!

Jeff
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Reply to: #971353 by FORAYCH
Feb 12, 2019 1:59am
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Also note: Some of us are gouge carvers and some of us are hobby knife carvers. Hobby knife carving generally takes longer than gouge carving. In fact, we once had a post where someone suggested that more people should learn how to gouge carve because they'd end up carving more stamps and hence we'd have more boxes to hunt!
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 12, 2019 11:39am
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For me, it really depends on the stamp.. if it's a fairly simple stamp, I usually can finish in an hour or so.. any longer and I usually stop for a while.. (I've broken a couple of fingers in the past) because I'll start making multiple mistakes if I don't..
Seeking Seven More Stamps, Please.
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Feb 12, 2019 11:44am
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I cannot find my original post, so I am reposting rather than updating. If anybody would like to carve a stamp or a few for a homeschool, letterboxing education event, please see the tracker. We only need seven more. Thank you!

https://www.atlasquest.com/toolbox/stampexchange/details.php?exchangeId=1299
Re: Seeking Seven More Stamps, Please.
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Reply to: #971379 by RDHG
Feb 12, 2019 12:35pm
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Hi, RDHG,

Since I'm a retired homeschool mom (4 graduates), I would especially love to help with this project. It was through a fellow homeschooler that I first learned about LBing! If still needed, I'll take Ben the Dog. Any kind of dog will do? And I'll try Ceclia the Toucan, too. Also, I recognize your name (and Super Hedge Hoggie, too) so I think you're in NC as I am. I do not see on your post where you want the stamp mailed. And is your event on 3/7? Or is that the deadline to get it to you?

Evelyn for the BEJays
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Reply to: #971378 by Only Dreaming
Feb 12, 2019 12:38pm
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Wait, what!? You’ve broken fingers carving stamps?

🙀
Re: Seeking FIVE More Stamps, Please.
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Reply to: #971381 by BEJAYS
Feb 12, 2019 1:11pm
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Thank you two times! I sent you AQ Mail and updated the list. Yay!
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Reply to: #971322 by RDHG
Feb 12, 2019 6:02pm
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That’s a tricky question to answer. If I’m doing a simple carve such as a pictograph or one of my lighthouse stamps, I can whip through one of those in 10-20 minutes. If I’m doing an intricate one or anything with lettering, then everything is slowed down and I might be working for hours. Size of stamp has nothing to do with it, smaller may take longer do to detail.