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Re: Gouge Modification Photos
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Reply to: #801721 by Kirbert
Sep 1, 2013 11:17am
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I just recently bought a right handed K gouge. Took a couple of minutes to get used to, but I think I've found a new friend! It is awesome!! I acquired a reverse recently and still haven't gotten the hang of that thing. Not sure what the heck Mrs. Wolf is doing with it to have such disgusting results!!
Re: Gouge Modification Photos
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Reply to: #801769 by Raven
Sep 1, 2013 12:06pm
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You can always send that reverse to me. :)
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Reply to: #801772 by The Wolf Family
Sep 1, 2013 1:05pm
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Or me :)
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Reply to: #801772 by The Wolf Family
Sep 1, 2013 1:05pm
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You can always send that reverse to me. :)

I'm sure I will be, especially since it's for the greater good anyway!
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Reply to: #801779 by Raven
Sep 1, 2013 1:06pm
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Darn, replied too late :p
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Reply to: #801781 by FORAYCH
Sep 1, 2013 2:01pm
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I'm gonna demand a lesson for using mine someday. After a good thumb wrestling tournament.....
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Reply to: #801791 by bluebirdlover
Sep 1, 2013 2:09pm
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You're on :)
Re: Stampin Up Carving kit
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Reply to: #801722 by Housepitality Hostess
Sep 1, 2013 3:40pm
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And if there are any deals for money you spend.....I LOVE my SU markers!!! A little pricey but so worth it (IMHO).....of course, I love SU ink period....and no, I don't sell it either! :-)
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Reply to: #801772 by The Wolf Family
Sep 1, 2013 4:13pm
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You can always send that reverse to me.

Or me. I'm really liking my new reverse. Time to try the K now.
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Reply to: #801791 by bluebirdlover
Sep 1, 2013 6:34pm
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you don't get a lesson in how to use your reversed. you just hand it over, nice and easy. . .

after all, i know where you live.

~tigs (slowly. . . nicely. . .)
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Reply to: #801791 by bluebirdlover
Sep 1, 2013 6:41pm
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I'm gonna demand a lesson for using mine someday. After a good thumb wrestling tournament.....

Think you are gonna win, do ya?
Muahahahahahaha!!
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Reply to: #801781 by FORAYCH
Sep 1, 2013 6:42pm
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Darn, replied too late :p

Ya snooze, ya loose!!
Re: Gouge Modification Photos
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Reply to: #801769 by Raven
Sep 1, 2013 7:19pm
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I acquired a reverse recently and still haven't gotten the hang of that thing.

Me too!

I bought the mini and a reverse #1. The mini was easy to use and will become my go-to gouge for fine detail.

I'm having trouble with the reverse #1. I guess I got too used to knowing how much pressure to apply and when/where to stop with normal gouges that the reversed version is boggling my mind. I feel like I keep stabbing the rubber slab instead of carving with it.
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Reply to: #801858 by Khameleon
Sep 1, 2013 7:23pm
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I feel like I keep stabbing the rubber slab instead of carving with it.

psst, you using the sharp end?
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Reply to: #801861 by turkey feathers
Sep 1, 2013 7:28pm
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psst, you using the sharp end?

d'oh! I knew I must be doing something wrong. Thanks for clearing that up :P
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Reply to: #801848 by The Wolf Family
Sep 1, 2013 7:46pm
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Ya snooze, ya loose!!

Umm...interesting typo there!?!?!

Not only am I late, I am excessively available too... ;)

You fight dirty :p
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Reply to: #801858 by Khameleon
Sep 1, 2013 8:52pm
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The mini was easy to use

I'm having trouble with the reverse #1.

Man, I can't use either one! Some sort of moron effect seems to take over when either one is in my hand. I'm almost scared to try the K, even though it sounds like just what I need.
Re: RIP Staedtler 1V
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Reply to: #794611 by FORAYCH
Sep 1, 2013 9:33pm
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As best as possible click a button that fits your total range (including taxes and shipping if need be) for purchase specifically of a carving tool:

A single carving tool? I clicked $0-15. But we're talking about what a beginner would want, right? We're concerned about what the new carvers will be buying, right? That could be higher but should contain a variety of gouges. After all, we want new carvers.
Re: RIP Staedtler 1V
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Reply to: #801896 by Oberon_Kenobi
Sep 1, 2013 10:34pm
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After all, we want new carvers.

Most definitely. It looks like the range is anywhere from $0-25 for most voters. A $25 tool probably would not be purchased by a newbie (unless they have experienced boxing friends guiding them). Likely newbies will do what many of us probably did - get a Speedball set with four nibs, attack some Speedy Carve and see what people think. After some experience under their belt, the more likely a "good" tool would be sought.
Re: RIP Staedtler 1V
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Reply to: #801899 by FORAYCH
Sep 1, 2013 11:05pm
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Likely newbies will do

You are so right. That is exactly what I did. I'm a newbie and have just started carving. I just posted my first handcarved sig. stamp. So what do you think of it???
Re: RIP Staedtler 1V
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Reply to: #801903 by Granny Hummingbird
Sep 1, 2013 11:52pm
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I think you did a wonderful job! I am rather partial to hummingbirds - you did them proud :)
Re: Gouge Modification Photos
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Reply to: #801721 by Kirbert
Sep 1, 2013 11:55pm
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This gallery now contains one new pic of a K gouge as well as pics of reversed and miniaturized gouges and a 3U:

http://www.atlasquest.com/gallery/viewalbum.html?gAlbumId=3810

I really wish it were possible to rearrange the photos into a deliberate presentation order rather than just chronologically or alphabetically.
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Reply to: #801858 by Khameleon
Sep 2, 2013 12:11am
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Perhaps some of the experienced reversed gouge carvers can chime in here, but I think there's probably a fundamental difference in style that determines whether a reversed will work for you or not. When using a regular V gouge, there are two methods that you can use to control how deep the gouge cuts, and hence how big a cut it makes. The first and most obvious method is to just hold it carefully; when it's a bit too deep, lift it a bit, and when it's a bit too shallow, press it into the rubber more firmly. The other, less obvious method is to allow the gouge to ride on the surface of the rubber on the smooth bottom of the nib just behind the cutting edge, and adjust the depth of cut by changing the angle of the handle: The higher the handle, the deeper the cut. Either method works well with a regular V gouge because it's designed to be easy to control.

The reversed is a different animal, though. Simply guided through the rubber, it wants to dive! And it'll quickly go entirely too deep if the carver isn't careful. If you control the depth by holding the gouge at the level you want, you'll have to manhandle it to keep it from going too deep. Honestly, I do that -- but I'm 6'4" and 300 lb, no shortage of strength here. And, frankly, it's still not easy to do. The other method, though, letting the gouge ride on its smooth bottom and merely adjusting the handle angle to control depth, works much better and with much less brute force. You can run into some issues when the smooth bottom falls into the groove you just cut, but in general it seems to work well.

Alternatively, you can choose to use a reversed only when you're making very tiny cuts, which keeps the diving issue negligible.
Re: RIP Staedtler 1V
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Reply to: #801896 by Oberon_Kenobi
Sep 2, 2013 12:19am
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We're concerned about what the new carvers will be buying, right?

Are we? That survey was in response to FORAYCH's question, but at one time I was trying to find out what experienced carvers would be willing to pay for a top-notch tool. The problem was that the Staedtler 1V -- a top-notch tool -- was going away, and it appears that anything nearly as good will probably be based on a woodcutting tool and hence will be considerably more expensive. Webfoot is balking because she believes that the cost of such a tool needs to be in line with what the Staedtler was -- but she can't find anything that fits the bill. I'm suggesting that experienced carvers would be willing to pay more for a truly excellent tool, and hence she should be looking at woodcutting tools.

But if we're talking beginners, that's another issue. I agree, cost is a major factor -- but the Speedball lino cutter set fills the bill nicely.
Re: Gouge Modification Photos
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Reply to: #801909 by Kirbert
Sep 2, 2013 6:58am
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That's probably a pretty darn good assessment! I was pretty sure it was in the carving style but I couldn't explain it. I know I angle my gouge every which way. And for long wide cuts I pick up a normal #1. The reverse is for detail work.

I've had people tell me that they think their reverse is just not sharp but I kind of doubt that. I think it is just in the carving style. But I plan on trying someone else's reverse next week and they will use mine so we shall see...
Thin lines?
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Sep 2, 2013 7:52am
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I have a question. Aside from practice, practice, practice, are there any techniques one can employ to achieve fine, thin lines?

I use the Speedball set, but also have a Staedtler 1V and a miniaturized one. I've got some pink stuff and some OZ. I just finished up my first OZ stamp, and while I don't normally dislike the heavy lines, I say I currently have a primitive style, heh, this was a bit more detailed and I feel like I lost a lot of that detail.

I can put a picture of the stamp up and link it, if that would help, along with a nice spoiler warning, since this one is meant for a park down here.
Re: Thin lines?
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Reply to: #801946 by DM Scuba Brat
Sep 2, 2013 8:20am
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Yes, lots of practice but what transfer method do you use? I find that a good transfer encourages me to achieve those fine lines. I use Speedball and for me, it's all in controlling the depth. Also, do you use a magnifier? I like your sig stamp:-)
Re: Thin lines?
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Reply to: #801946 by DM Scuba Brat
Sep 2, 2013 8:22am
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If you don't want that Staedtler 1V, I got first dibs on it.

No, really the Staedtler is your best friend. I only use gouges and just can't get comfortable with a knife. Maybe I need a tutor.

Yeah, practice, practice, practice.

AB
Re: Thin lines?
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Reply to: #801946 by DM Scuba Brat
Sep 2, 2013 8:27am
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If you don't have some sort of magnifier, get one. It really makes a difference.
Re: Thin lines?
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Reply to: #801952 by Lovebirds-NC
Sep 2, 2013 9:01am
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Yes, lots of practice but what transfer method do you use? I find that a good transfer encourages me to achieve those fine lines. I use Speedball and for me, it's all in controlling the depth. Also, do you use a magnifier? I like your sig stamp:-)

I trace my images with a soft leaded pencil or charcoal pencil, then rub them onto the carving surface. Thank you. My sig stamp is store bought (oh, the horrors!) but I got it well before I even considered carving. I like it a lot. :)

If you don't want that Staedtler 1V, I got first dibs on it.

MINE. :)

I'm not even quite sure what people mean by knife carving. So I guess that makes me a gouge carver. I'm not against learning, though.

If you don't have some sort of magnifier, get one. It really makes a difference

A sewing light and magnifier might be a good idea. I never really thought of that, even though I use a headlamp for light when I carve.