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Re: Trying to emboss a stamp...
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #256970 by Sally O
Jul 24, 2008 6:13pm
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Tips for Embossing - compiled from online sources and some freshly written.

  • Embossing powder will stick to any moist, freshly stamped image, but special slow-drying embossing ink and the pigment ink pads stay wet longer and make embossing easier.
  • Oils from your skin can get on the paper from handling it. If the powder sticks where you don't want it to, use a soft brush to remove it. A quick wipe with a used fabric softener sheet before stamping will also help to prevent static cling.
  • You can also use an Embossing Buddy. Available in craft stores or make your own with double knit fabric and corn starch.
  • When cutting out an embossed image, do not cut into the embossed lines. This will cause the embossing powder to flake off.
  • Hold the heat gun 6 inches or so from the card and sweep it back and forth or go in circles. Key is to not leave it in one place too long. as you get a feel for your powder, you can do it faster.
  • I leave the card sitting for about 30 seconds or so to let the powder "stick" real well before tapping off the excess.

What do you mean by:
put a thin coat of glycerin and color the stamp
Re: Buying supplies (from Stampeaz :)
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #256944 by Maude
Jul 24, 2008 6:42pm
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Quote I, too, find Stampeaz to be a good deal all around. I've learned (you know how that goes -- Ooopss! OK -- next time…) to mess with the quantity and watch the shipping. When shipping goes up, I back down my order by one sheet and get as much as possible without raising the shipping.


You can always email Webfoot directly about the shipping. I had that happen as well - turns out it's the way the checkout thingy is set up, and she can "override" the defaults to do the real (sometimes lower) shipping amount. She uses the flat rate mailers and is a genuis at "stuffing" them to get max goods in a smaller envelope!

Now, I pay by check, so I don't go through the checkout anymore, but if you have a question - email her - she's very prompt and very nice!!!

Mama Fox - got my Stampeaz order today - woo hoo - back in business!!!!
Re: Trying to emboss a stamp...
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #256976 by Shadohart
Jul 24, 2008 7:38pm
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What do you mean by:
put a thin coat of glycerin and color the stamp

I read on a webpage about that, but now I can't refind the site. It said most of the slow-drying ink has glycerin, which helps it to stay wetter.
But now, I might have to try some of the other slow drying ink and see if that is better or not.

There's this liquid embossing ink. Is that something else?
I think it dries and looks like embossing.

Sally-O
Re: Trying to emboss a stamp...
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257019 by Sally O
Jul 24, 2008 8:14pm
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Liquid Embossing is different than embossing ink.

Embossing ink comes on pads like we are used to, in re-inker bottles, and also in pens (wonderful things these). It's tinted or clear and holds the powder well. Liquid Embossing on the other hand is a gel that you spread over an area and allow to dry. It works without disturbing the inks used under it and you can layer it or put it on thicker for a really cool glass bubble effect.

Straight glycerin may not have the binders needed to stick to the paper, but I really don't know cause I've never tried it.

Not sure this info will help, but there ya go.
Re: Trying to emboss a stamp...
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257035 by Shadohart
Jul 24, 2008 8:38pm
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Hi Draygonflies,
Ahhh, I think I will try those pens you mentioned. I think that is the thing I need. I'll give those a try. And it's on sale! Even better!
Thanks for your help! :-)

Sally-O
Re: Trying to emboss a stamp...
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257053 by Sally O
Jul 24, 2008 8:48pm
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I do like 'em but have not tried to stamp with 'em. Maybe I should.

Glad I could help,
Tee
Re: Trying to emboss a stamp...
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #256970 by Sally O
Jul 24, 2008 9:05pm
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Stamped it, and then added powder. Shake off the excess. Heat it with the tool. Only the results was a few dots of embossing.


At first glance it sounds like you may not be waiting *quite* long enough for the embossing magic to happen. :-)

The first few times I tried emboxing (sic!), I didn't "get it" either...then I saw it happen!

You'll know it when you see it. It's cool chemistry in action! It's fun! Burning stuff in the kitchen happens about 5 seconds later. Magic...of the unintentional variety..... So be careful not not do a Talking Heads: Burning Down The House routine...

All that info up there ^^ is awesome, too.

pre
Re: Using acetone as a transfer medium
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #256640 by The Little Foxes
Jul 24, 2008 10:59pm
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Oh, Mama Fox, thank you so much, this sounds so easy, gosh, I sure have missed the boat. My cat likes to sit on my puter desk too, where the printer is, lol. Will be watching out for that!
I'll be trying this technique soon.
Thanks again,
Okie Dog
Re: Using acetone as a transfer medium
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #256756 by deniserows
Jul 25, 2008 2:50am
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Mine likes to "assist" is carving with her nails and trying to eat the scraps.
Re: Using acetone as a transfer medium
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257120 by ElectricMedic
Jul 25, 2008 9:11am
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Mine likes to "assist" is carving with her nails and trying to eat the scraps.


Milpol Kitty had a huge expense from eating foam earplugs, so she gets squirted with water if she even gets near my PZ CUT. Don't want her going to the vets again. Now lets talk about walking through the embossing powder before i heat it. That's a problem!

deniserows
but not with her cat
Acetone Help?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Jul 25, 2008 11:42am
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Ok, I want to make sure I have this right because my stamps are not inking up very well. You use acetone on the MasterCarve and there is no right or wrong side to carve with this one. The pink stuff has no right or wrong carve backing and you do not need to use acetone. The PZCut needs acetone but you do not carve on the side that has a letter on it. When using the acetone, you take your block, wipe with the acetone and then transfer your image and carve. Do I have this right?
Re: Acetone Help?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257342 by bridgetscouting
Jul 25, 2008 11:58am
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What are you using to ink the stamps? It's possible that is the issue and not the stamp itself.

TG
Re: Acetone Help?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257342 by bridgetscouting
Jul 25, 2008 12:03pm
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I am coloring them in with Marvy Markers.
Re: Acetone Help?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257359 by bridgetscouting
Jul 25, 2008 12:12pm
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Marvys can cause some beading, although not as bad as Crayolas. If you are having a beading issues, use acetone before you carve no matter which medium you use (beading is most likely to occur on the pink stuff and PZ Kut). That should help quite a bit.

TG
Another Acetone ?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Jul 25, 2008 2:04pm
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I am a new carver so I got my variety pack from Stampeaz and am trying them all as suggested. I have tried the "pink stuff" and the White PZ Kut. I used the acetone "wash" on them before carving as suggested as well. The Orange PZ Kut seems like such a different creature. It is intimidating me. Anyway, what I really want to know is do you recommend the acetone scrub prior to carving the Orange as well?

-Girl Friday
Re: Another Acetone ?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257417 by aloha friday
Jul 25, 2008 2:06pm
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Anyway, what I really want to know is do you recommend the acetone scrub prior to carving the Orange as well?


Definitely. The orange is one of the biggest culprits for beading markers. But it is also the best carving medium in my opinion.

TG
Re: Another Acetone ?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257417 by aloha friday
Jul 25, 2008 2:20pm
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I agree with TG. I love the orange stuff but you do need to give it a good wipe down BEFORE starting to carve.
Re: Another Acetone ?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257430 by pugnasties
Jul 25, 2008 2:29pm
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you do need to give it a good wipe down BEFORE starting to carve.


Yes, that word BEFORE is very important. I ruined one of my first stamps by trying to clean it with acetone after I carved it. The acetone melts the detail away.

TG
Re: Another Acetone ?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257417 by aloha friday
Jul 25, 2008 10:11pm
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FYI: the pink stuff does NOT need the acetone wash!!!

*S
Re: Another Acetone ?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257417 by aloha friday
Jul 26, 2008 1:31am
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If I'm doing an acetone transfer, I always start with an acetone pre-wash. This is just to prepare the surface for accepting the transfer. I do this with ANY vinyl media... white, pink or orange. It just makes the toner (from a photocopier or laser printer) stick better to the surface of the vinyl. The only time I skip this step is if I'm transferring the image with a graphite pencil rubbing.

When I'm done carving, I like to go over the surface of the vinyl with a fine (400 grit or higher) sandpaper. This helps the surface accept ink better. It's not really an issue for pigment inks (such as Colorbox, Brilliance or LePlume pigment markers) but it makes a big difference with dye inks (such as Ancient Page, Kaleidoscope or LePlume II markers). They will tend to bead on a vinyl surface that has been treated with acetone and not sanded afterwards.

--DMS
speedycarve?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Jul 26, 2008 5:21am
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Does anyone use Speedball Speedy-Carve? I bought a big piece at Michaels for cheap, but I'm not really liking it. The only other stuff I've used is the pink, so that's all I have to compare it to.

It just seems so soft, and the surface gets "crumby" when I use markers on it, so much so that the markers stop working! Had to wipe the residue and crumbs off the marker tip to make it work again. Is this something the acetone wash will take care of?

KV
Re: speedycarve?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257625 by Sheep Thrills
Jul 26, 2008 5:30am
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Quote Is this something the acetone wash will take care of?


Only if you let the speedycarve sit in the acetone until it completely dissolves... Then you won't have any more and you can get more pink stuff.

Sorry for the smart-alecky answer. :-) To answer your question seriously, speedycarve is not a good medium. The stamps will split and pieces will break off under regular usage in a letterbox. It happens rather quickly too.

OTOH, I had a couple of PTs that I carved from it before "I knew better". They actually lasted all right because I was able to protect them somewhat.

Knit Wit
Re: speedycarve?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257625 by Sheep Thrills
Jul 26, 2008 5:30am
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The stuff is useless. You have already discovered the first problem, the crumbling. It also falls apart after multiple seasons in the weather. I would throw it away and move on! If you search the boards for SpeedyCarve, I am sure you will come up with several threads about the stuff.
I love the White PZ cut from Stampeaz.com. Others love the Pink Stuff from ACMoore!
Mrs. V
Re: speedycarve?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257629 by The Vs
Jul 26, 2008 5:38am
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Quote The stuff is useless.


Well, thanks you guys, it's good to have validation! It's an 8x10 slab I bought, and it was only 7.50, so it won't hurt too much to trash it. I'm letting my kids carve it right now. Maybe that will be good practice for them, and then they can move up to better stuff. Problem is, they both carved biggish stamps last night, and they want to plant them. Hate to think that this stuff will disintegrate that quickly...perhaps we'll keep them as PTs!

KV
Re: speedycarve?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257634 by Sheep Thrills
Jul 26, 2008 5:46am
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Quote Problem is, they both carved biggish stamps last night, and they want to plant them.


If you plan to keep them, back them with thick craft foam. That may help. PTs would be a good idea. Make sure they are kept in a hard-sided container.

If you do plant them, make sure the container is large enough that the logbook doesn't press on the stamp at all. The less pressure on the stuff, the longer it MAY maintain without cracking. I understand how it is with kids. :-)

Knit Wit
Re: speedycarve?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257634 by Sheep Thrills
Jul 26, 2008 5:50am
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I made the horrible mistake of using this for many of my first boxes. I'm in the process of recarving them on PZ. I do have to say, that many of them are still good, even after several finds. But, it won't last, esp if people use markers...which I use all the time. It's a pain to have to recarve, so I would start out right to begin with. You can save it and use it for temporary uses. I personally hate the stuff so much that I refuse to use it even for temp boxes and let my kids use it to practice carve too. My son is 6, so his carvings are lines and circles. :) We plant his boxes in the house. :) Maybe if your kids want to plant their stamps, you could plant them close by so that they can be maintained easily. I'd hate to give the impression that their carvings aren't good enough to plant.
Re: speedycarve?
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257625 by Sheep Thrills
Jul 26, 2008 6:32am
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We were given a piece of the "crumbly stuff" when we first started. Even then we were warned that it was crap. It was and is still poopy carving material. The only fix for it is to recarve the image in a better, longer lasting medium.

Sorry

Tee
Re: Buying supplies
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #256622 by On The Corner!
Jul 26, 2008 7:02am
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I am very new to this hobby and have not seen Nasco mentioned in this thread. I am the cultral arts superintendent for our county fair and my entrants get their material to carve stamps from Nasco in Fort Atkindson, WI I know they ship everywhere. I believe that they have the tools too. I hope this helps someone! Terrio
Frustrated Rookie - Transfer ???
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Jul 26, 2008 7:38am
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The tutorials make it look soooo easy ... yet nothing seems to work for us.

Trying to transfer from laserjet to the stamping medium.

I've tried acetone, ironing, blending pen and now wintergreen oil (which I had to special order) --- nothing worked. If we iron and iron and iron and iron, you can see a vaugue outline on the stamp.

I've tried 3 different brands of stamping material -- nothing worked.

Then somebody said it might be the kind of laser toner my printer uses so I went to several different copy shops, sure that this time it was going to work -- no dice.

What am I doing wrong? Why is this so hard when it looks so easy?

Would love specific advice -- like use XYZ brand carving material with ABC transfer medium.

And if anyone happens to be in the Gwinnett County area of Georgia and can tell me a copy center that works, I would be eternally grateful!
Re: Frustrated Rookie - Transfer ???
Board: Stamp Carving and Mounting
Reply to: #257662 by Flipper Floppers
Jul 26, 2008 7:54am
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This might not be the solution you are looking for but it is the transfer method I use for all of my stamps. I print the image then trace it with pencil. I don't get special tracing paper just regular old paper - actually recycled paper with old math worksheets on it from school (I'm a 7th grade math teacher and we just switched text books so I had lots of old worksheets from the old textbook series. ) In any event. . . I trace the image with pencil. Make sure you do so very dark. Then flip it and set it on your medium. I have been experimenting with lot so of different mediums since I just started this hobby last month. Then rub the image with the top of your fingernail or the handles from a pair of scissors or somthing else hard to transfer the pencil to the medium them presto! You are ready to carve.
This has worked for all of my carves and if you look at my logbook you will see I have already done quite a few in my short time involved with letterboxing.
Sometimes the lox-tech cheapy method is the best one to choose.
Good luck!

MacDermaid4