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Re: Happy *Official* New Years!
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916885 by StampingIsMyForte
Jan 1, 2016 6:21am
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....and from the Great Lakes area too!
Re: First boxes of the year
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916888 by Sits N Knits
Jan 1, 2016 7:11am
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I get to find a new box today that was just planted this week. It's rare that we get any new ones here in Central IL that are within an easy driving time.
Re: Clues / geocache items?
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916895 by ApanAnn
Jan 1, 2016 7:48am
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Sorry i didnt know about not posting the clue ... Wont do that again

Thanks for everyone's help I appreciate it - i've decided I'm going to do what people have suggested above as well as leave a note in my box saying please do not leave swag This is not a geo cache .

I know the person who put it in there does letterboxing and geocaching and he was only doing it to be nice , I don't know if down the road it would have cost me a problem but having someone had asked me If the stamp was for trade and that they were new meant that it was a problem and I'd like to avoid this Especially because I do not carve for myself - people carve for me because I cannot see to do it and those people take a long time to make things for me ... Having their stamps get confused with geocache swag is not cool in my book ... It's still not great but if it were my own stamp it wouldn't be as big of an issue to me , but the fact that it something someone took the time to create for me specifically is where I have the biggest problem
Re: First boxes of the year
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916888 by Sits N Knits
Jan 1, 2016 7:56am
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Over the river and through the woods
To grandma's house we go
I found my first box of 2016
It was under the snow

I planted two boxes late last night and posted the clues, but it was before midnight. Guess those don't count as 2016 plants, but it was a good start to the New Year weekend.
Re: Clues / geocache items?
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916911 by brailleboxer
Jan 1, 2016 9:40am
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I know the person who put it in there does letterboxing and geocaching and he was only doing it to be nice , I don't know if down the road it would have cost me a problem but having someone had asked me If the stamp was for trade and that they were new meant that it was a problem and I'd like to avoid this Especially because I do not carve for myself - people carve for me because I cannot see to do it and those people take a long time to make things for me ... Having their stamps get confused with geocache swag is not cool in my book

I think this result could be one of the potential downfalls w/ hybrid boxes. Now that they are supposedly "educated" about not taking the stamp, we have to re-educate them about not putting swag in our boxes. It says a lot that not even those who supposedly do both know the difference. All we're doing is reinforcing the mistaken idea that all boxes are caches by default, just with gps coordinates instead of clues, and some with the deviation of a stampswag you can't take.
Re: Clues / geocache items?
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916873 by JampersandJ
Jan 1, 2016 11:12am
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According to AQ, they are newbies, with no finds.

No, according to AQ they just created that trailname and listed those 4 boxes. Anything beyond that is an assumption. Rather than a newbie, when I read them I assumed it was an experienced planter using an alias. The vagueness of the clues would probably become quite clear once you find yourself at the locations. I just hope they are still there the next time I have an opportunity to get to the island, because that may be years. Several others have been listed since I was last there.

K
Re: First boxes of the year
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916888 by Sits N Knits
Jan 1, 2016 11:57am
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I found a box and a HH this morning!
Re: First boxes of the year
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916888 by Sits N Knits
Jan 1, 2016 12:18pm
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After being thwarted by several inches of ice, we finally found a box! Woohoo! Let the year begin!
Re: Clues / geocache items?
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916927 by Kelsung
Jan 1, 2016 1:47pm
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No, according to AQ they just created that trailname and listed those 4 boxes. Anything beyond that is an assumption.

I assumed it was an experienced planter using an alias.

Ooooh, do you know something that I don't know? <G>

Remember, I was just there!
Of the two clues I could deduce the probable location, one is right in the walking path of the disembarking location. Tourists have to pass by this spot. Great spot to take a photo! I was told by a local that when a cruise ship visits, there are about 2000 extra tourists. I saw a cruise ship both days. The second clue points to one of the most visited landmarks in town, and is still too vague to do a quick grab. The other two clues were even more vague for a quick grab.

I am assuming/deducing that an experienced planter would not put boxes in such muggly places where a boxer would have to tear up the place to find the box, unless, of course, they don't really care if no one finds their box, or if it goes missing quickly.

In addition, they used the "limited" time icon when they listed the box, but didn't list any time constraints. Not something an experienced planter using AQ is likely to do, but a newbie would.
Re: Clues / geocache items?
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916878 by Wry Me
Jan 1, 2016 1:49pm
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We took a pass.

Did that recently also. There are just some letterboxes we don't feel comfortable looking for.
Re: First boxes of the year
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916897 by Rocklun
Jan 1, 2016 2:20pm
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Southpaw and I hiked in a beautiful area today. Found one box and planted one box, plus saw and heard loons. Managed to avoid getting attacked by bears. Great way to start 2016!
Re: Clues / geocache items?
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916931 by JampersandJ
Jan 1, 2016 3:50pm
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In addition, they used the "limited" time icon when they listed the box, but didn't list any time constraints. Not something an experienced planter using AQ is likely to do, but a newbie would.

Unless said experienced planter knows that because of all of the muggles that the box will be limited-time (short-time).
Re: First boxes of the year
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916935 by Rocklun
Jan 1, 2016 5:45pm
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Found a wonderful old box today and took a little hike to see a waterfall. Just noticed I had a cake by my name today too!

Happy New Year!!!
Re: First boxes of the year
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916888 by Sits N Knits
Jan 1, 2016 6:30pm
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I went out to find my first box of the year this morning, but sadly, it was missing. I hope that isn't a harbringer of things to come!

Jaxx
Re: Clues / geocache items?
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #916932 by JampersandJ
Jan 2, 2016 12:15am
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Did that recently also. There are just some letterboxes we don't feel comfortable looking for.

That and Texans' fetish with guns. I'm fairly certain the clues were a middle school student's.
Re: Clues / geocache items?
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Reply to: #916963 by Wry Me
Jan 2, 2016 7:26am
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Well go with this ... Maybe it says limited time because of the first clue which mentions take the lot - and possibly a middle school aged child spelling loot wrong ?
Maybe this is why it's limited time whoever finds it first game over - its designed to have the first finder take all
Re: First boxes of the year
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Reply to: #916948 by Jaxx
Jan 2, 2016 6:01pm
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We headed out for our first box this afternoon, but one of our labs ran onto the ice and jumped into the river. So I used some basic rescue techniques that we recently learned. Crawled out on the ice with a huge branch and pulled her out. So much for boxing today.
Re: First boxes of the year
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #917018 by TheKindlyVikings
Jan 2, 2016 7:21pm
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OMG.....you made the right choice....so glad EVERYONE survived!!
Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Jan 3, 2016 10:52am
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A few new boxes have appeared in my area, but they are all hybrid geocaches that require one to be a premium member geocacher. I do not enjoy geocaching, and refuse to pay for premium membership, and I kind of resent someone listing such a box on AtlasQuest even if it is a hybrid. The AQ clue is a link to the geocaching website.

What do others think. Is this a legit listing on AQ?
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #917046 by 55 Steps
Jan 3, 2016 11:07am
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I have hybrid boxes which used to have a premium geocaching membership (now just regular). but they had their own clues written for atlasquest. Unfortunately, some geocachers don't really know how to make a true hybrid. It may also be possible they don't realize letter boxers would like to try their boxes. You could send them a message and have them post CLUES on atlasquest, or explain that you cant see, its not fair, etc. You could also send a note to the reviewer for the geocache. They are at the bottom of the cache listing. But I doubt it will help.
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
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Reply to: #917046 by 55 Steps
Jan 3, 2016 12:14pm
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We have set up a couple hybrids but they never have restrictions, have always had hand carved stamps and have always used a clued method to find. I think they are as legit as listing on lbna also and any other sites people list their boxes on but restrictions are up to individuals. And the hybrids sure get alot more finds :)
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
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Reply to: #917048 by Knotty Lady
Jan 3, 2016 12:27pm
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My hybrids get a ton more finds, and yet the geocachers only RARELY log them on Atlasquest. I have had maybe 3 geocachers decide to try letterboxing so they could find the 9 more letterboxes attached to those series.
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
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Reply to: #917046 by 55 Steps
Jan 3, 2016 12:49pm
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Is this a legit listing on AQ?

I agree with you, its not legit.

Old Blue
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
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Reply to: #917051 by DoubleSaj and Old Blue
Jan 3, 2016 2:40pm
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While I do not profess to know what "the" answer is to this, I might offer a different perspective that would encourage you to contact the cache owner (CO) rather than immediately sending a message to the cache reviewer.

My immediate thought is that this is a cacher first and a newbie boxer second just trying to spread their wings a bit. They may list ALL of their caches as premiums (keeps the riff raff from stealing them) and do not really understand how this impacts those who simply box and do not enjoy caching.

I would be inclined to contact the cache owner who is placing these and offering a hand in ways to keep the peace amongst those who love the hide and seek games in all their varieties.

I have to add that I am a fairly experienced cacher (in excess of 2k) finds and a fairly well rounded boxer (350 at present), so I can appreciate both sides of this.

PS
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #917048 by Knotty Lady
Jan 3, 2016 2:48pm
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We have set up a couple hybrids but they never have restrictions, have always had hand carved stamps and have always used a clued method to find.

Me too. I've hidden six geocache hybrids that have been listed here as well. All of them were for boxes that I worked on enough that I wanted to share with as many people as possible. The first three are puzzles. (One of these requires that you figure out its GPS coordinates but then you get the rest of the clue to find it without a GPS receiver.) The later three are for Back to the Future and are clued. I've only done one letterbox that is for geocachers only but that is because it is about 1/2 mile from the nearest landmark so you'll need a GPS receiver to find it.

I haven't done any geocacher or letterboxes for premium members only. I didn't like not being able to see premium member cache listings before I was a premium member. (Though I did figure out how to find them without being able to see the coordinates. I found two of them that way before I was a premium member.) However, I'm not saying that I never will, I just don't have a good reason to do so yet.
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #917046 by 55 Steps
Jan 3, 2016 4:46pm
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I own several hybrid boxes. The clues are freely available on AQ written in boxing type jargon. However they are listed on geocaching as premium to reduce the risk of new cachers taking the stamp.
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
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Reply to: #917046 by 55 Steps
Jan 4, 2016 5:00pm
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As far as I am concerned, simple coordinates constitute a clue, so yeah, it could be a legit box and could be posted here.

That being said, to be posted here, you should be able to actually access those clues through the systems in place on this site and not be forced to pay a membership fee to another site.

As an aside, I am OK with the whole premium membership thing, and the pay to play, I can still choose which boxes I go searching for.
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
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Reply to: #917122 by Cyclonic
Jan 4, 2016 9:52pm
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I am OK with the whole premium membership thing, and the pay to play, I can still choose which boxes I go searching for.

Well, here you don't even see the boxes that have restrictions you don't meet. The sites need to be funded. What started this thread is the clue requiring premium membership on geocaching.com. It's just another box that you won't be looking for.

You know, you could get back at the planter by planting more of your own boxes. To get extra revenge you could make them all with NO RESTRICTIONS!
Re: Hybrid boxes and Premium member geocaching
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Reply to: #917136 by Oberon_Kenobi
Jan 6, 2016 2:49pm
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Well, here you don't even see the boxes that have restrictions you don't meet. The sites need to be funded. What started this thread is the clue requiring premium membership on geocaching.com.

Sometimes I am a little dense, didn't I just say that:

That being said, to be posted here, you should be able to actually access those clues through the systems in place on this site and not be forced to pay a membership fee to another site.

You know, you could get back at the planter by planting more of your own boxes. To get extra revenge you could make them all with NO RESTRICTIONS!

Oh, you mean like all of my boxes?
BOTW
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Jan 11, 2016 12:13pm
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Do my eyes deceive me? Are the last 5 weeks boxes in the widget really all New England boxes? I can't believe it, especially for this time of the year!!!

Jiffy