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Re: What do you do when you just want to see that image?
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Reply to: #715864 by The Wolf Family
Jul 18, 2012 11:14pm
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I scribble on the stamp with a soft pencil, like a 2B. It helps me see the detail without inking up.
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Reply to: #715905 by thunderbird
Jul 19, 2012 3:25am
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thats what I do with just a regular #2 pencil :)
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Reply to: #715893 by Practically Perfect
Jul 19, 2012 4:20am
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If you seal the pencil transfer with stazon yellow, the pencil image won't smear and you can still see it clearly to carve. If you do want to stamp part way through with a very light water soluablecolor, the stazon will protect the uncarved portion of your image.
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Reply to: #715863 by bluebirdlover
Jul 19, 2012 4:26am
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You WANT to see it. What do you do?

Stamp it in yellow and look, of course!
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Reply to: #715868 by trilla_marion
Jul 19, 2012 5:11am
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i want to see it too! so i usually stamp right before i cut it out in the color i want it to be. and then i wipe it off with a baby wipe and continue :)
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Reply to: #715863 by bluebirdlover
Jul 19, 2012 5:34am
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I never stamp early. If I do so accidentally, I'm disappointed. I don't like feeling disappointed, so I try to tweak everything until I think the image will come out exactly as I want it the first time.

Another reason why it might not occur to me to stamp early is that I don't think of the image as a whole while I'm carving it. I think of it one line at a time.

-QP
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Reply to: #715885 by idlemoon
Jul 20, 2012 10:54am
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After I stamp it, I then take a picture of the "first image".

Once I'm finished with my stamp, I stamp it in my own log book. At first I just put them in with the other stamps that I got, in order, but now I'm starting at the back of my logbook and going forward.
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Reply to: #715863 by bluebirdlover
Jul 29, 2012 3:15pm
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I always wait until the end before inking, MushrooM generally can't wait and inks along the way.

Ed
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Reply to: #718446 by Phoenix Rizing
Jul 30, 2012 7:07pm
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I always wait until the end before inking, MushrooM generally can't wait and inks along the way.

I am a new carver, and I wait until I think I'm all done before inking.

Tonight my patience was rewarded with a near-perfect image upon first inking. I literally had to make one extra cut to remove some excess rubber 1/4" above my image.

And I carved it outside, on my lap, during a softball game. I must be insane!

Amy, carve, carve, carve
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Reply to: #718808 by marrtians
Jul 31, 2012 4:25am
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I carved it outside, on my lap, during a softball game. I must be insane!

Naw - just officially one of Us!!

~tigs(carves in airports, in cars, just about anywhere she can stand or sit)
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Reply to: #718867 by tiggermama
Jul 31, 2012 4:42am
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carves in airports, in cars, just about anywhere she can stand or sit

OK, here's my dumb question. What do you do with the shards of carving material when you're carving out in public? Do you carve over a towel of something to catch them, or do you just let the chip fall where they may?
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Reply to: #718873 by WiseOldOwl
Jul 31, 2012 5:01am
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Do you carve over a towel of something to catch them, or do you just let the chip fall where they may?

i carve over the lid of my carving kit which is a 1.2L lock 'n lock. Then, when i'm done carving, all the nerdles go in the trash. . .

tigs(who needs to carve stuff for MMBCE)
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Reply to: #718808 by marrtians
Jul 31, 2012 1:59pm
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I've carved plenty of times (and probably will tomorrow) at my daughters dance class on my lap. ^_^
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Reply to: #718873 by WiseOldOwl
Jul 31, 2012 2:00pm
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Nah I put it on my lap if I don't have anywhere better and then I pick it all up and throw it in the trash when I'm done or if I have to pause.
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Reply to: #718873 by WiseOldOwl
Aug 1, 2012 5:22am
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In this case, I gathered shavings on my lap and put them in a baggie... I came prepared.
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Reply to: #718808 by marrtians
Aug 1, 2012 5:56am
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And I carved it outside, on my lap, during a softball game. I must be insane!

Do you hold it and turn the material...kind of a 3 dimensional carve? It amazes me!
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Reply to: #715913 by Baqash
Aug 1, 2012 5:58am
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If you seal the pencil transfer with stazon yellow, the pencil image won't smear and you can still see it clearly to carve.

Okay I do not get this please explain, why stazon? Does it stay on the pencil or the non carved part?

phynstar(who just doesn't get it)
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Reply to: #719185 by phynstar
Aug 1, 2012 6:01am
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Okay I do not get this please explain, why stazon? Does it stay on the pencil or the non carved part?

The StazOn stays on all of it; it's a permanent ink. You can still see your lines, but they'll be tinted the color that you use. I can show you some transfers next week if you remind me.

[._.]
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Reply to: #719187 by Aiphid
Aug 1, 2012 6:07am
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I can show you some transfers next week if you remind me.

How do you transfer?

p
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Reply to: #719190 by phynstar
Aug 1, 2012 6:12am
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There's a number of different ways to transfer an image to your block.

The simplest transfer is by pencil. You draw or trace your image into a piece of paper with a soft pencil, like a #2. Then, you put the image face-down on your block and rub the back with something like a spoon or a folding bone. The pencil mark will come off on the block. The Staz-On ink is sometimes used to seal the pencil so it doesn't rub off while you're carving.

In the past, I used to make a toner-based photocopy, put that face-down on the block, and color the back with a Dove blending marker. The xylene in the marker would cause the toner to release from the paper, and it would stick to the rubber. Some use wintergreen, and even others use a small iron, because heat will cause that too, though it can blister your block if you're not careful. The newer the photocopier, the less likely that this method will work well, as newer copiers seem not to release the fused toner as well.

Kirbert has some great information on his web site about using baking parchment to transfer an image printed from your inkjet printer, and that is the method I use now. It's just so precise when you have a detailed image that tracing can't hope to represent well.

Hope that helps.

Thunderbird
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Reply to: #719187 by Aiphid
Aug 1, 2012 6:16am
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I have a photo of Stazon over a parchment paper transfer. Probably not the best example since the images transferred are small words.
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Reply to: #719190 by phynstar
Aug 1, 2012 6:31am
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How do you transfer?

You ask for a transfer pass when you get on the bus or train. ;-)
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Reply to: #719195 by thunderbird
Aug 1, 2012 6:37am
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The simplest transfer is by pencil. [...] The xylene in the marker would cause the toner to release from the paper, and it would stick to the rubber.

Yesterday I actually used both pencil and chemical (acetone in my case) transfer on one stamp. I wanted part to look sharp so I drew it on the computer. The part I wanted to look like it was hand drawn I just drew on the paper. I rubbed to transfer the pencil first then acetone to transfer the toner.
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Reply to: #715863 by bluebirdlover
Aug 1, 2012 7:16am
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Depends....often if I'm not sure how its going, I will stamp it in a light color to check it...

I'm getting so I don't have to do it anymore until near the end.
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Reply to: #719187 by Aiphid
Aug 1, 2012 7:27am
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The StazOn stays on all of it; it's a permanent ink.

Sort of. I found out the other day that leaving your stamp in the sun on the car dashboard for a couple of hours will completely fade the yellow until it's gone.

GJ
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Reply to: #719199 by The Wolf Family
Aug 1, 2012 7:33am
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Aaaaahhhhhh...Mama Wolf....I don't know how you can carve that! Holy Camoly!

I stamp mine with light green plain old cheap Studio G ink....mine are pencil transfers, but they aren't that detailed. If I get a little smear, I just redraw it with pencil right onto the stamp.

Most of my stamps are hand~drawn, or itaken from photos that don't print clearly enough to transfer with any other method.
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Reply to: #719228 by GreenJello
Aug 1, 2012 7:49am
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The StazOn stays on all of it; it's a permanent ink.

Sort of.

Yeah, like all permanent things, it's semi-permanent :)

I end up looking pretty jaundiced after doing a lot of carving.

[._.]
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Reply to: #719231 by FloridaFour
Aug 1, 2012 7:52am
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Mama Wolf....I don't know how you can carve that!

Deal with the devil, blood sacrifice, etc.

[._.]
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Reply to: #719183 by phynstar
Aug 1, 2012 8:39am
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It amazes me less these days. I've gone on and on about the need for maximum magnification when carving. In 2001 I had lasik surgery resulting in about 20/16 vision in both eyes but still needed reading glasses for up-close work. I had been using +3.50 reading glasses together with a table-standing magnifier (about +3, I think) for carving. When it came time to remove chunks, I'd ditch the tabletop magnifier but continue using the reading glasses.

Now my eyesight has gone off in one eye to the point where I need prescription lenses. And, stupid me, I forgot to mention to the eye doc that I could use a prescription for up-close work -- and without such a prescription you can't buy a pair of suitable glasses, although the eyeglass shop assures me that they eye docs are usually only too happy to provide a prescription. I didn't want to pay for another visit to the eye doc, so instead I bought a pair of reading-only prescription glasses ($38 at Wally World) and a pair of clip-on magnifiers. With that combo I can see so well that there's no need for the tabletop magnifier. And now, with this new combo, I find myself picking up the stamp and holding it in my hand while digging out chunks. I haven't hand-held it while doing the initial carving yet, but I can appreciate how it's done -- especially with gouges (I'm mostly a knife carver).
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Reply to: #719183 by phynstar
Aug 1, 2012 8:15pm
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i'll bring something to carve next week, phyn - you can watch me. it's kind of both. i turn the material, and i turn the knife or gouge in my hand. . . kinda hard to explain.

i also use the stazon, so you'll see that too.

~tigs(also an in-the-hand carver)