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by Old CeltProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Taking the temperature of the folks here to see what you all think. In recent months there have been several boxes planted in the New River Gorge National River. Unless there has been a major shift in policy in the last month, planting in the park is...
by SagacornProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
It can be hard to remain ethical when others are doing wrong. I applaud you for yours. I'm sure you are aware of all the ways you can react to this so I won't elaborate. You have to follow your heart and do what is right; but I will say a rule is a...
by THE RED CYCLONEProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
I wouldn't plant any but I would definitely look if some boxes were planted there.
by Wise WandererProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Thoughts? I applaud you for respecting the rules and not planting there. If I were faced with this, I would send a message to the planter letting them know that these boxes are in violation of the Park's rules, and that you are aware of previous boxes...
by PiggyJauntProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
I feel like it makes us as a community look terrible. They said not to plant them, so don't plant them. I'd definitely write the planter and tell them to get their boxes out of there. I wouldn't remove them myself, but I also wouldn't go and find them,...
by Grrly GirlProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
1. If they say don't do it, then don't do it. 2. The New River Gorge website it has a pack it in/pack it out rule. 3. If we alienate the management now, it will make it harder for those trying to get the management to change their minds. We...
by WronghatProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Unless there has been a major shift in policy in the last month, planting in the park is still against the park rules. The speed limit on Main Street is 25 mph. Guess what. What should I do about it?
by IrishRefProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
To protect your positive and tenous relationship i would pull all those planted inappropriately. Could give you more cred with the park and it is the right thing to do. We had a similar problem years ago in Harpers Ferry. The NPS actively went after...
by Road JunkiesProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Has it occurred to you that the people who have planted boxes in the New River Gorge area are not aware of a policy such as the one you describe? We planted a box there yesterday, and we're assuming that's what triggered your post. We reviewed the...
by Trailhead TessieProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
i would pull all those planted inappropriately That would just create a larger problem when people can't find the box they're looking for, because they'll spend more time searching, and if the location is delicate that could lead to greater damage. Wha...
by Rodney KingProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
To anyone who assumes that their fellow letterboxers are willfully violating rules and acting against the best interests of the letterboxing community and natural areas, please give people the benefit of the doubt until you find out the rest of the sto...
by DarkZen and Evil Cow PieProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
It can be hard to remain ethical when others are doing wrong. Disagree. Wrong is wrong. If the park supervisors find out about the illegal boxes it makes it harder for those of us trying to get them legally accepted.
by PiggyJauntProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
By emailing the planter and letting them know it's not allowed, you're not accusing them of anything. You're just letting them know. I say when in doubt, email the planter, but then, if they don't respond correctly, take whatever steps you feel appropr...
by Road JunkiesProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
At one time, apparently most NPS properties did discourage letterboxing. As evidenced here, that is no longer a blanket NPS policy. https://www.nps.gov/teachers/classrooms/letterboxing.htm So in the absence of a stated policy on the park's site, the...
by EverybodyProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
if they don't respond correctly, take whatever steps you feel appropriate. So ANYBODY can determine if ANYONE ELSE'S response is "correct"? And they can do whatever they want with the box, if the response didn't meet what they wanted it to be? Sure,...
by AnybodyProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
So ANYBODY can determine if ANYONE ELSE'S response is "correct"? Woohoo!! RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!
by WronghatProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Has there been a more alias spinning thread than this? Also dibs on the "alias spinning thread" meme.
by McBoxerProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Has there been a more alias spinning thread than this? Hmmmm... let me think...
by SnarkProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Who? Me?
by IrishRefProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
You have been made aware of the issue by the local planter. Can we agree that it wasn't with ill intent? Based on those assumptions do you have any problem with a local moving the box off NPS property and communicating with you on clue changes?
by wassamatta uProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Based on those assumptions do you have any problem with a local moving the box off NPS property and communicating with you on clue changes? Why? Where is there an indication that LBs are not allowed? As has been pointed out (WITH A LINK), NPS no longe...
by EidolonProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
You have been made aware of the issue by the local planter. And therein lies the conundrum. The local boxer is "certain" of this policy prohibiting letterboxes yet there is not "official" mention of the policy on any park related listing of policies...
by IrishRefProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Not the point i'm making Wassa. It was an attempt at resolving with no ill will. Should know better than to attempt resolution on the message board. Suggestion is for local boxer and planter to discuss with an amicable resolution. Apparently wiser...
by dancingpecanProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
It took a little digging, but here is the New River Gorge's guidelines for geocaches. I would assume that they would like letterboxes to be handled in the same way. https://www.nps.gov/neri/planyourvisit/permit-guidelines-for-gps-based-activities.htm...
by Road JunkiesProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Thank you, dancing pecan. We had followed a link on the site for GPS based activities but it was a dead link that led to a 404 error page. Good detective work! We will contact the park superintendent and notify him or her that we placed a box there wi...
by dancingpecanProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
You're quite welcome. I'm glad I was able to help. :) dp
by Super Hedge HoggieProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
What was the Disney decree? (Just curious)
by TopcollectorProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Oh, I was lucky to read the Burgemeister poem just in time for it to be deleted. Very funny with the link--but it-just-disappeared. I'd love a copy AQ'd to me if possible, can't remember who wrote it.
by JohnsosaurusProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
What was the Disney decree? (Just curious) I'm guessing this is the Disney Decree
by Old CeltProfileContactLogbookNote
Board: State: West Virginia
Just to be clear, I have no intention of outing the boxes or pulling them. Live and let live. I was mostly curious about the feelings of people in the area about the subject. I've tried several times to get the Super of the park to allow LB's and geoc...