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Msg: 941607
Yumgirl Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: YumgirlProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 7, 2017 3:37 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941568 by Raven
I experienced this with my then 10-year old. But she knew she'd have to get teeth pulled (4x) but I didn't tell her when. She only figured it out when we pulled into the parking lot. This saved all of us from her brooding/hysterics. It was all over in five minutes with numbing gel and novacaine and no afterpain.

But! In two cases, she had adult teeth behind that simply could not come in. In the other two, she had no adult teeth. But we were warned that pulling teeth could result in bone loss, with no root in place to give the jawbone substance. She will have placeholders in her braces (false teeth, just for show and spacing) and will get implants, probably in her early 20s, once her jaw is mostly/fully formed. They don't want to do implants now in case the jaw grows and skews the placement of the implants. I don't think they are that worried about bone loss because she has healthy teeth on either side of the space. And...it gives us time to start saving for the costly implants.
Msg: 941610
Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: Force of FiveProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 7, 2017 4:01 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941568 by Raven
My sister-in-law still has her 2 front bottom baby teeth.

If she doesn't have adult teeth, maybe they don't need to pull them. Not everyone has to have "perfect" teeth.
Msg: 941623
Raven Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: RavenProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 7, 2017 7:45 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941610 by Force of Five
Yeah, it's the bottom too. So top teeth and bottom lip really covers that when you smile. I don't have an appt for the extractions, and am going for an ortho consult first. Plus I have an old close friend in South Florida I text pics of her teeth and xray too that works in a dental office with a peds office attached that said she'd have them take a look. So I'm over the initial shock sad waa poor me phase. My son lost his first tooth (top front) at 3 due to trauma and I was so worried that the impact was going to deaden the adult tooth. Waited years to find out it was just fine when it finally came in, so I can be patient :) And then there's wisdom teeth. Maybe she can keep the baby teeth til those come in? Who knows. But I know implants are costly, painful, and take nearly a year to insert. I just wish I could take her place.
Msg: 941629
Vandisar Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: VandisarProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 7, 2017 8:56 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941568 by Raven
My son just had to have SIX teeth extracted for the same reason. They were babies and hadn't fallen out, so the teeth had become fused and the adult teeth were right behind them. He had to be anesthetized, and he was a real trooper through the whole thing and seems to be having the teeth move in fine with no more problems...
We did use a pediatric dentist who was wonderful.

However, if you have anxiety about dentists I highly recommend having someone go with you. My dentist suggested another adult to help me get him home and I couldn't get anyone to go with and still have a sitter for my daughter.
The recovery was terrifying. (Admittedly, I have anxiety) It was all normal and he is fine, but when they come out of the drugs they shake like crazy and he was coughing up all the blood from the surgery and it LOOKS really scary. There was literally nothing wrong, but alone with him doing that, I got very nervous. The dentist did warn me, but then they kind of walked away and let me deal with it.
He was also higher than a kite on the way home and I needed help getting him to the car. (granted, he's 11 so I couldn't carry him)
Anyway... moral is I'm glad we did it and his teeth are healthy and he wasn't traumatized at all... but I feel like I was a little :D
Bring someone to help you.
Msg: 941632
Raven Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: RavenProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 7, 2017 11:11 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941629 by Vandisar
I'm really wishing I could click the HUG button on your post more than once!!
Msg: 941636
Warrior Woman Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: Warrior WomanProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 7, 2017 1:55 PM
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Reply to: Msg 941568 by Raven
I have horrid dental phobia from childhood experiences, so I hear you loud and clear. My daughter was born without adult eye teeth, discovered around the same age. It was necessary to extract her baby teeth in order to install bilateral maryland bridges which is a false tooth that is attached to the flanking adult teeth to maintain space until permanent implants can be installed, usually by age 25. Once we explained the full procedure - that her teeth were coming out to put in something new - she had no problem with it at all. Perhaps asking the dentist what the long term plan will be may be a start toward making everyone feel better. You are wise not to project your fears, one of the hard things about parenting :-)

Warrior Woman
been there, done that
Msg: 941637
FloridaFour Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: FloridaFourProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 7, 2017 2:24 PM
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Reply to: Msg 941598 by Uncorny Acorns
Yes, we had one dentist who did not even have IV sedation available. We waited until I changed insurance andetails got a better dentist. My kids is a bundle of nerves, lost about 5lbs because he wouldn't eat with loose teeth, his gums were getting infected, etc, so they pulled 5 or 6 teeth all at once. Special case for my kiddo, not the norm.
Msg: 941638
FloridaFour Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: FloridaFourProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 7, 2017 2:27 PM
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Reply to: Msg 941598 by Uncorny Acorns
That could be true about the baby teeth. My daughter is missing 4 molars. In her case, they never formed, but because she had super crowded teeth, they pulled the baby molars and let the gaps close. I think she was 10 when she had them pulled.
Msg: 941697
Subject: I need to vent
Author: CrazyolisProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 9, 2017 4:10 AM
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My kids have been so sick this year. My high school senior has horrible allergies, he is always stuffy and congested. He had a pretty good case of pink eye that lasted for almost 3 weeks. He has had two back to back sinus infections and is probably on the way to a third.

My high school freshman has a whole bunch of problems, she has had abdominal pains since early December. Had an ovarian cyst, that went away but left a lot of pain. She has had 4 ultrasounds, an xray, a CT scan, blood work to rule out glutein intolerance, and now we are trying lactose free. Even though she has been eliminating regularly, the xray showed a large backup of stool in her colon. We are dealing with that with some laxatives. On top of this, she has had a fungus in her ears since Thanksgiving. We have been going to the ENT pretty much weekly since then. Now she has come down with a barky cough that makes her feel like she is going to puke every time she coughs. She is so stuffy and congested. Both are complaining of a sore throat, but are not strep.

We have been to more doctors and more often this school year probably in our last 5 yrs!

My problem is that I am not very sympathetic. I know she hurts, but I can only do what I do, take her to the doctor and try to make her follow the doc directions...she is famous for doing something for a day and then saying it doesn't work, still hurts. She doesn't get that things take time to work. But it is super frustrating to see her in constant pain. She is trying to keep up with her activities, but they hurt to do them.

My son being a senior is a little more contientious about missing school. He suffers through, its a little easier for him, as he only goes in the morning, then leaves to do his co-op at the elementary school. He has missed that a few times, but he is ahead of schedule on that. My daughter, not so much....even though she complains about missing school, she is much more likely to beg to stay home. I honestly think the problem is that she is so over tired that she just needs a day of full rest.

I tell ya its wearing on me....I am trying to be a nice parent, but every day someone is complaining that something hurts. And I cant do anything about it!

Thanks for listening!
Msg: 941699
SnakeDoctor Subject: Re: I need to vent
Author: SnakeDoctorProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 9, 2017 6:00 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941697 by Crazyolis
Regarding daughter with sore throat...not showing up as strept...I had that all through high school...come to find out...Epstein Barr Virus - Used to be called Syndrome (mutation of Mono). Wouldn't hurt to check that next time bloodwork done. Just a thought...
And so so sorry about all your families medical woes...
SD
Msg: 941707
Subject: Re: I need to vent
Author: Uncorny AcornsProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Feb 9, 2017 9:42 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941697 by Crazyolis
How frustrating!
I wonder if you could get a partial day for your daughter, are there some subjects she could do independent study on? It sounds like she's just overwhelmed wtih the symptoms and school work as well.

Stomach issues are the worst, and accompany some really frustrating and potentially embarrassing symptoms. And High Schoolers do NOT want to talk about them! Until that's under control, they might be taking a higher place in her mind than anything else, especially during a school day when bathroom access is a little more limited.

I get the wearing on you bit. The older they get, the harder it is to do anything real about it. At least when htey were little, a few minutes of snuggling would have that placebo effect. (Also wearing, but at least it felt useful)

Can you engage your daughter in finding solutions? Keep a food and symptom diary, or download one onto her device so she can easily keep track of what she's eating and symptoms and maybe see a connection? (I have been looking for a good one, different apps have different symptoms highlighted so look around. I can't find one that incorporates a menstrual cycle, but keeping tabs on that with symptoms might help, too.)

My dd has gluten intolerance and gets debillitating migraines. I figure my role at this point is to help her learn how to function with or despite her symptoms. In high school, it was a lot harder because as much as I wanted her to self advocate they needed/wanted parent advocacy. Grr. Anyway, I tell her that I will support her in trying to feel better if she cooperates. But if she takes dumb chances or put herself at risk just to fit in (eating without double checking things are safe for her dietary needs) I don't want to hear anything about it.
Msg: 942740
Raven Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: RavenProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Mar 7, 2017 10:56 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941568 by Raven
Good news! Took her to the orthodontist and he said to leave them alone. Said if they pull them now then it can cause deterioration in the jaw bone making it less receptive for implants down the line. He also said that it's possible that we can get away with her baby teeth for quite awhile before we have to make a decision, that maybe in time he can use them along with braces to make or close a gap for a bridge/retainer so she can get an implant when the law has finished growing if that's what's needed. So I slept well that night!
Msg: 942768
shiloh Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: shilohProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Mar 7, 2017 9:04 PM
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Reply to: Msg 941568 by Raven
I had the same thing. I kept my teeth until I was weel into my twenties. One came out I had the other pulled and a partial with one tooth put in. No big deal.

Shiloh
Msg: 942819
Raven Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: RavenProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Mar 9, 2017 8:05 AM
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Reply to: Msg 942768 by shiloh
Thank you.
Msg: 942847
GreaseLightning Subject: Re: Not sure how to handle this
Author: GreaseLightningProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Mar 10, 2017 7:10 AM
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Reply to: Msg 941568 by Raven
I have 3 baby teeth still in my mouth that never grew adult ones. They said as long as I take extra good care of them they will last! I just had a baby tooth get a filling recently because they are more susceptible to cavitys. But only having one cavity on 1/3 baby teeth after almost 30 years isnt bad at all :) Best of luck!
Msg: 944898
Quiet Place Subject: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: Quiet PlaceProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 25, 2017 5:14 AM
P-733F-433M-543
My 12yo got into the van, "Ugh! Our van smells like letterboxing!"
I gave her a side eye. She knew her sister and I had just gone to plant a letterbox.
She said defensively, "What? Letterboxing has a certain smell! It does! It smells like," [wrinkles nose], "burned rubber and old people."

She is not a fan (of letterboxing or oldness). Ha! :-D
Msg: 944901
DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie Subject: Re: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: DarkZen and Evil Cow PieProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 25, 2017 7:54 AM
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Reply to: Msg 944898 by Quiet Place
Hmm, interesting. It smells like discovery and freedom to me!
Msg: 944904
Quiet Place Subject: Re: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: Quiet PlaceProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 25, 2017 9:48 AM
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Reply to: Msg 944901 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Exactly! (But also maybe a little like dirt.) :-D
Msg: 944905
The Merry Pranksters Subject: Re: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: The Merry PrankstersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 25, 2017 10:02 AM
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Reply to: Msg 944898 by Quiet Place
"I love the scent of letterboxing in the morning. It smells like......... VICTORY!!!" ;o)
Msg: 944906
cooledcoyote Subject: Re: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: cooledcoyoteProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 25, 2017 10:28 AM
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Reply to: Msg 944905 by The Merry Pranksters
It smells like whatever you just stepped in.
Msg: 944907
Subject: Re: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: Photo DabbleProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 25, 2017 11:18 AM
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Reply to: Msg 944898 by Quiet Place
You guys are so funny!!
Yes, letterboxing has a smell! Smells like dirt, and outdoors and ink and freedom!!

As a side note when we first started letterboxing we used wipes from Costco and we wiped EVERY stamp off (does anyone still do that?!?!?!) as well as 80 little (and some more not so little) fingers. Now EVERYTIME I smell that smell it takes me right back to the woods and sweet success! I hope Costco never stops selling those wipes!
Msg: 944909
LROSEM Subject: Re: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: LROSEMProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 25, 2017 12:25 PM
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Reply to: Msg 944898 by Quiet Place
It makes sense. My 9 year old lamented that she was allergic to letterboxing when she got her results at the allergist. She loves boxing, but, among other things, she's allergic to tree pollen, grass pollen, mold and dogs. To her, that means she's allergic to letterboxing.
Msg: 944950
Trailhead Tessie Subject: Re: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: Trailhead TessieProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 26, 2017 6:56 AM
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Reply to: Msg 944909 by LROSEM
My pack often smells like mildew because I've replaced old wet boxes I find and put the smelly contents in my pack and forget all about them until the next time I go boxing.
Msg: 944952
FloridaFour Subject: Re: Letterboxing has a smell?
Author: FloridaFourProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Apr 26, 2017 7:23 AM
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Reply to: Msg 944950 by Trailhead Tessie
Mildew, mold, and old ink is what I smell.
Msg: 953905
Rebiccola Subject: IKEA Soft Toy Drawing Competition
Author: RebiccolaProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM
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My kid entered the IKEA Soft Toy Drawing Competition. If anyone would like to vote for her design, it is "Squirrelly" with ID 247618. All you need to vote is a valid email address. Voting is once per design, per day, through December 4. So if anyone here has/knows a kid that entered the competition, post a reply with the design info, and I will be happy to vote for them too.

Here's the link to Squirelly
Msg: 953909
Subject: Re: IKEA Soft Toy Drawing Competition
Author: sun7flourProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Nov 20, 2017 10:21 AM
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Reply to: Msg 953905 by Rebiccola
My girls entered that contest last year, I love it! I voted, good luck!!

sun7flour
Msg: 954284
Rebiccola Subject: Re: IKEA Soft Toy Drawing Competition
Author: RebiccolaProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 2, 2017 9:43 AM
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Reply to: Msg 953909 by sun7flour
My girls entered that contest last year, I love it! I voted, good luck!!

Thanks sun7flour!

There are just 3 more days left to vote! Squirrelly could use a few more votes. I fixed the link (I think), and I won't pester you all again. Thanks everyone!
Msg: 954288
Subject: Re: IKEA Soft Toy Drawing Competition
Author: a knitwitProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 2, 2017 11:29 AM
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Reply to: Msg 954284 by Rebiccola
Good luck......I voted!
Msg: 954301
TeachJR Subject: Re: IKEA Soft Toy Drawing Competition
Author: TeachJRProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 2, 2017 7:33 PM
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Reply to: Msg 953905 by Rebiccola
Voted. Good luck!
Msg: 965658
The Blue Rose Gang Subject: Out of the mouths of babes
Author: The Blue Rose GangProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Sep 21, 2018 7:05 AM
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Yesterday I was working with a first grader who needs intervention help with his reading. He told me he doesn't need to learn to read, "Menus have pictures." It made me smile all day!
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