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Re: printing maps
Board: OpenStreetMap
Reply to: #978358 by Sagacorn
Aug 14, 2019 8:52pm
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I was poking around over there this afternoon while having lunch...
for the direct site, it was just about as I said..., cut out and print elsewhere...
They did have some stuff in the Using Maps Wiki... I have to go back in for the names, but there seems to be a few programs that can handle files exported from OSM (see Export) and print them... One advantage of that might be size... in the Export function you can set geodetic style boundaries... and tell it to export. Then you take that file into the other software and print away... but a bit much to digest at the same time as gulping down food... and drink...

I'll still try to do one... using my method... I got one file saved as a PNG image... and will play with it... that is screenshot from OSM site. but really pale... which is a complaint many had... and no way to change it... for printing... thus the outside programs... After I do some rough playing with this one for results visually, I will grab a few more and try joining them up with some to the north of the first...
using an image editor...

The big problem is seeing names and such... paper doesn't zoom in and out like images do... that led to my using the camera or cell phone method... just get them to the size you need and in the device... I often have an area shot for getting to the area... then a closer image of the area... and then a zoomed shot for the close in trails... and when I know how to get there, I do a matching 'satellite' shot that may or not be... I prefer the term ground photo... but it doesn' matter.. except for the final approach but seeing landmarks is handy...

Good luck

Oh! I don't mind 7 for brevity... but the trail name is 7rxc... it's the last part of my HAM callsign... VE7RXC which I cut down for brevity... hah! From BC Canada.
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978355 by MissMoon
Aug 14, 2019 9:07pm
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As Kirbert says it isn't about using the maps... but even non members can browse around the map that is displayed... you just can't contribute... and YOU are the search engine... eg If I want to see a map of something in say Georgia, USA... I would probably just pan the map over that way... but I know where that is and would start at the GA / FL border most times... If I didn't know what was what, I might spend a few minutes on GEarth or Gmaps and search the general area with there search tools... make a few notes and then look up the maps... but you will still have to do it... I don't recall a location search, but I've been off of OSM for a while...other than lunch today... many map sites also show their product with OSM as an option for map formats... but it is confusing for sure the first few times til you get the hang of it... it is all documented but you have to try a few placements first... for adding things. It is not that hard... I did it.. but for screen shots of really local maps for printing or viewing... that is easy.
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978356 by Kirbert
Aug 14, 2019 9:18pm
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But Google Maps clearly uses OSM data in their maps! I've entered stuff before to have it not only appear on OSM maps but appear on Google Maps as well.

Yes, that was evident even 10 years back when I started contributing to OSM database... most of the time, not even a full day went by... just to be sure, I misnamed one street I added from tracks... of several. When it showed the next day, there was the typo... gotcha... Still like I said, lots of tricks to getting the data out, but not hard to get in with a bit of practice... some of the tools are a bit misleading... and also a bit frustrating to go to their expected level of accuracy in location and usage... (say 2 lane pave vs 2 lane gravel etc.) only to find that for my GPS, I can only see a generic road... problem is my GPS though, not the Map.
I did one for a friend for his GPS, routable TYP... looked good and worked... took me by surprise though... was expecting a line route... but also got speech directions... (that was from garmin.openstreetmap.nl )
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978360 by 7rxc
Aug 14, 2019 9:26pm
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I know where that is and would start at the GA / FL border most times.

So, Florida Georgia Line?
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978351 by 7rxc
Aug 14, 2019 9:32pm
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Might get a simple cellular radiotelephone though.

Personally, I have a radiotelegraph. There is nothing like the feel of a metal key between your fingers. And the di-di-di-dit di-dit of a message coming it. Ahhhhh! The nostalgia. ;-)
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978362 by Oberon_Kenobi
Aug 14, 2019 9:38pm
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Works for me...! I always went from GA to FL being from Toronto originally... but if that truck is going the other way... I can do that... we did have to go home didn't we...
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978363 by Oberon_Kenobi
Aug 14, 2019 9:43pm
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We just used a key for CW on shortwave... but yah! let's hear it for straight keys...
but if you were using RF keying, it paid big time to have insulated knobs on there... big surprise sometimes as to where RF energy travels on metal...
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978350 by Sagacorn
Aug 15, 2019 3:35am
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Hi Sagacorn!
I am not sure if this is helpful, but one thing I found is if you select the Share button (little square with arrow curved to the right) and then select Download, the OSM map you see on the computer screen will be downloaded to your computer and will be opened with the program you have on your computer that reads png files. (For me I have my computer set up to open png files with IrfanView.) From that program you might be able to print. Just a thought... :-)
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978363 by Oberon_Kenobi
Aug 15, 2019 6:37am
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Personally, I have a radiotelegraph. There is nothing like the feel of a metal key between your fingers.

You young whippersnappers and your newfangled devices. I won’t dare leave the house without my radio-smoke-signal sender. There is nothing like the feel of bark between your fingers and the smell of burning wood to lead you to the next letterbox. Ahhh...
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978372 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Aug 15, 2019 6:55am
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You young whippersnappers and your newfangled devices. I won’t dare leave the house without my radio-smoke-signal sender. There is nothing like the feel of bark between your fingers and the smell of burning wood to lead you to the next letterbox. Ahhh...

bahahahahaaaa

Good one.
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978356 by Kirbert
Aug 15, 2019 7:05am
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Google Maps even includes property lines in some areas, which is great when you're off-road.

I love the fact that Google Maps seems to have almost any cemetery I want to find, even the tiny and obscure ones. (findagrave.com has been changed and "upgraded" - don't care for the search and mapping much anymore)

What I don't like with Google Maps is being able to only enter 10 locations on a route. There's a way to enter more....but I haven't been able to make it work even watching the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlmUJ8-KQ5o
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978374 by MissMoon
Aug 15, 2019 8:59am
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Thanks for that... re youtube tutorial... I tried it and also failed, but on re watching I think I see the problem... but I'm out of time this morning and late... I'll be back.
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978356 by Kirbert
Aug 15, 2019 10:16am
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On my phone, I use MAPS.ME which allows me to save state maps on the SD card and therefore not have to download data every time I want to use it. This is helpful out in the woods where I can't get reception.

I've also started using MAPS.ME for hiking because it works great off line and there already a lot of major trails in their system (unlike Google Maps). You can create a Google MyMap with parking, trails, LB locations, etc., export that as a kml, then email the kml file to yourself. Open it up on your phone, and everything is right there. You don't need to have cell service for it to work. For some of the longer distance trails, it's come in quite handy.
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978367 by roo
Aug 15, 2019 10:36am
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if you select the Share button (little square with arrow curved to the right) and then select Download, the OSM map you see on the computer screen will be downloaded to your computer and will be opened with the program you have on your computer that reads png files.

That's the little square with arrow curved to the right on the toolbar at the right edge of the screen.

The default is png, but you can change it to jpg if you prefer. The image it brings up is printable in Irfanview.
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978378 by Kirbert
Aug 15, 2019 11:17am
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check out Flopps Maps for one of the best online tools for simple mapping (that I know of, but really I have not tried that many, I just like this one)
you can switch between google maps, google sat, OSM, and a couple others. You can drop and label multiple pins. cannot do routes.
https://www.flopp-caching.de/
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978374 by MissMoon
Aug 15, 2019 10:48pm
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Had a long day of running around with life today... but found a bit of time to try that tutorial again... and yes I found a small trap... but this time I was a bit more awake than this morning and was successful at creating a long list...

The bit I missed was what he was copying and pasting into the notepad...
You have to copy the URL in the top line... connection or whatever... the one that shows where you are or want to go... where you can type the URL...
first the original map URL and then the second Map URL... to allow for errors, I made a third Map... URL... and did the cut and splicing into that one (only so I could back up and not have to start over...) You only need the string of place names... leaving out the one that is a duplicate... then clean up the line by fixing anything else duplicated or omitted... like slash marks between...
Then you copy the URL (all of map three) and paste it into Gmaps in that line and there is your extended route... actually simple but was confusing since I was just copying the names in the lists... and spicing that... no good... small goof.

I did about eighteen names... will play some more but read this and watch the video again and it will make sense... it's all stored in the line... not the list.
Re: printing maps
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Reply to: #978389 by 7rxc
Aug 17, 2019 8:04am
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Had a long day of running around with life today... but found a bit of time to try that tutorial again... and yes I found a small trap... but this time I was a bit more awake than this morning and was successful at creating a long list...

Thanks! Glad you were able to make it work. I'll have to give it another try next time I go cemetery boxing. That's usually when I want to do that, jumping from one cemetery to the next.
Google Earth map question
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Jul 16, 2023 10:31am
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This is not the correct board but I don't see one that deals with Google maps.
I'm hoping some tekki can help me. I am trying to zero in on a graveyard so I can read the grave names and see roads. I can get to street level but not into the cemetery. If I use the little yellow 'fella' marker it brings up a screen that looks industinguishable. Thanks for any help.
Re: Google Earth map question
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Reply to: #1024996 by Sagacorn
Jul 16, 2023 11:24am
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In most cases the GOOGLE maps does not go into that much detail. Street views do not go into cemeteries typically. There are some other websites that might be able to help you out, sometimes, the cemetery itself post a map of the grounds and I have heard of one call "find a grave" that might help in some ways for some cemeteries, but the best thing we have been able to is just go there and spend the time it takes to drive around and get the lay of the land before you start hunting.
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Reply to: #1024996 by Sagacorn
Jul 16, 2023 12:08pm
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You can’t do that online. You have to go to the cemetery, follow the clues and do the work.
Re: Google Earth map question
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Reply to: #1024996 by Sagacorn
Jul 16, 2023 3:38pm
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I can get to street level but not into the cemetery.

It's nice that's there's at least some private spaces that google has not yet opened to the general public.
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Reply to: #1024999 by Wise Wanderer
Jul 16, 2023 4:12pm
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I've seen places blurred out sometimes and nothing looked special about the house or whatever. Of course I couldn't see it! And it's a rare occurrence.

I've always wondered if people can request to have their house blurred out.
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Reply to: #1025000 by MissMoon
Jul 16, 2023 4:29pm
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Re: Google Earth map question
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Reply to: #1024996 by Sagacorn
Jul 16, 2023 7:17pm
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I find Google maps easier to use than Google Earth. It has the street view of the address you are looking for. For cemeteries, I use Findagrave a lot. You can search for cemetery locations and also burials there. Of course, you can always try Googling the cemetery itself and once in a great while a map will be published. Good luck. I like finding your out-of-the-way cemeteries the best.
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Reply to: #1025000 by MissMoon
Jul 17, 2023 2:10am
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One of my neighbors—the one whose whole family scurries inside when anyone approaches—has his house blurred out. He’d probably freak out if he knew that the house isn’t blurred out if you’re in front of my house, which is a side street diagonally across from his house, on the Google street view. I’d tell him, but since I’d have to catch him first, I’m not even gonna try! 🤷‍♀️
Re: Google Earth map question
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Reply to: #1025001 by Dale End Farm
Jul 17, 2023 2:11am
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Once you blur it, you can’t change it back, unfortunately.
Re: Google Earth map question
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Reply to: #1025004 by Rocklun
Jul 17, 2023 7:27am
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One of my neighbors—the one whose whole family scurries inside when anyone approaches—

That’s funny.

has his house blurred out.

You very rarely see it. But I imagine most people aren’t aware they have the option.

He’d probably freak out if he knew that the house isn’t blurred out if you’re in front of my house

Google maps has a lot of little quirks. Gawd no. Don’t tell him. Lol
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Reply to: #1025013 by MissMoon
Jul 17, 2023 8:43am
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That’s funny.

They’re so secretive that when they recently put up a sign celebrating their daughter’s HS graduation, my husband and I looked at each other and said “there’s a teenaged girl living there?” We’ve never seen her! Still find it bizarre that they blurred out their house yet hung up a huge celebratory banner showing the daughter’s name and face…
Re: Google Earth map question
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Reply to: #1025004 by Rocklun
Jul 18, 2023 1:23pm
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I think there's something automatic about that blurring, like Google has some algorithm that does it. I've seen the weirdest things blurred, like an official sign with the road name on it. And sometimes you'll see a sign blurred out but can move over ten feet to the next photo stop and see the same sign clearly.

There's also the issue with the age of the photo. When Google started that Streetview thing, the cameras weren't high-rez enough, and there isn't enough resolution to read things like road names or addresses on mailboxes. And sometimes when their camera car has been past more recently, you'll see both the new photos and the old ones, so you'll see a recent, super-clear photo, then move over ten feet and see a low-rez photo of the same place. And of course, sometimes someone has built a Walmart there in the meantime or whatever.
Re: Google Earth map question
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Reply to: #1025057 by Kirbert
Jul 18, 2023 4:58pm
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I love that I can see my brother in his front yard.
I can tell the age of the view by the lack or railing on the front porch.