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Msg: 861367
CTEagleEye Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Help!
Author: CTEagleEyeProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 1, 2014 4:18 PM
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Reply to: Msg 861359 by FloridaFour
I have the issue of odd sizes too but I'm having a hard time visualizing this....
Make a mark on the middle of the page, and slide the page over to fit.

....slide the page over what? to fit what? Sorry for being dense. Hope you can help me out.

Peace
CTEE
Msg: 861371
Wry Me Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Help!
Author: Wry MeProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 1, 2014 5:10 PM
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Reply to: Msg 861359 by FloridaFour
There are instructions in the book for offsetting, as well, where the first hole is indented from the side. Then you flip it to do the other side. It ends up repunching some of the middle holes, but it balances them out and centers it. If I eyeball it, I can get even punches on either side by making a template and matching the center line I've drawn on the paper (or creased) with the center mark of the BIA. But it often leaves half-punches at the end, which look ugly and irritate my, accosting as they do my OCD sensibilities. If you can't find the instructions, I'll scan them in the next few days. Remind, me though.
Msg: 861391
Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Help!
Author: JaybirdersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 1, 2014 8:42 PM
P-173F-920M-47
Reply to: Msg 861354 by Jaybirders
Ahhh I think I remember seeing a video describing putting a center line template thing. To be honest, I've watched so many videos I can't remember which one! I'll give it a try tomorrow.

I've been getting pretty discouraged with my results so far, but have to remember there is a learning curve here, and I'm not a naturally crafty person, at all! I do learn from my mistakes and should have this operation perfected if I don't just give up and quit!

Thanks everyone for your helpful advice!

Patty
Msg: 861673
Wry Me Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Help!
Author: Wry MeProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 3, 2014 8:44 PM
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Reply to: Msg 861354 by Jaybirders
Did you figure it out? Am I off to the scanner, then?
Msg: 861692
Scooters Mom Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Help!
Author: Scooters MomProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 4, 2014 3:47 AM
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Reply to: Msg 861354 by Jaybirders
The manual says to use the spacer bar to make up to 1" books

I use 1/2" diameter owires to make my letterbox logbooks and use the space bar you asked about. The space bar makes the holes punch closer to the edge of the page. It came with my blue Bind-it-All but is an option with the pink one. Hobby Lobby sells the Bind-it-All and I think they also sell the space bar.

Here's some info about the space bar:

http://www.binditall.com/SpaceBar.html The video doesn't work from the link on this page but the pictures explain how to install the space bar and show the difference in the distance from the edge of the page to the holes.

video showing how to install the space bar and ordering info

The hardest part for me to remember is how to insert the wires so the seam is in the back of the book. This helps:

Bind-it-All Chapter 4: Let's Bind!
Msg: 861693
Team Awesome Pants Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Help!
Author: Team Awesome PantsProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 4, 2014 3:58 AM
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Reply to: Msg 861692 by Scooters Mom
What a helpful post!
Msg: 861944
Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Help!
Author: JaybirdersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 4, 2014 7:47 PM
P-173F-920M-47
Reply to: Msg 861673 by Wry Me
Hi Wry,

No need to scan the manual, though I very much appreciate it. I actually came across a very helpful blog post from Campfire Lady that answered my question. I will try again tomorrow and report back to you all.

In case anyone is interested, Target has 3 x 5 index cards for sale this week for 50 cents a pack. I bought 8 so I will have plenty if I make mistakes.

Thanks to everyone! You are a great group of people!!

Patty
Msg: 861950
Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Help!
Author: JaybirdersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 4, 2014 7:55 PM
P-173F-920M-47
Reply to: Msg 861692 by Scooters Mom
Thanks for the links, Scooter's Mom. I'm going to try using the space bar next time. Mine actually came with one so at least I know what it is for. I guess I need to go get out there and do it. I really got discouraged after a few crummy attempts, but I am determined not to quit.

Thanks again!

Patty
Msg: 862192
Subject: Things Are Coming Together!
Author: JaybirdersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 5, 2014 3:43 PM
P-173F-920M-47
Hi Guys,

I'm the Newbie Needing Help. I told you I would get back to you on my progress and I'm happy to report that today things went ~way~ better. I think my problem was that I was over-thinking things (I'm a Virgo). I was so worried about size dimensions, which holes to use, etc. This is what I did today. I got 3 x 5 index cards and cut them into 2 x 3". (Yes I had 1 inch waste, which I tossed). I then used the 2 inch end and centered it best I could. I then cut out some heavy scrapbook paper slightly bigger than 2 x 3 " and centered it and used it as a cover. I think the key is being mindful of not getting into the next set of punch squares. So, I put it all together with 4 holes on the O wire. Success! I know they aren't the most professional in the world, but at least they are presentable. I feel a whole lot more confident and expect things can only get better from here.

Thanks to all of you for your help!

Patty

PS Not sure if my message came through but Target has 3 x 5 index cards for .50 cents for 100 this week on sale!
Msg: 862327
Wry Me Subject: Re: Things Are Coming Together!
Author: Wry MeProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Aug 5, 2014 9:01 PM
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Reply to: Msg 862192 by Jaybirders
Congratulations! Now work those muscles!
Msg: 869977
Janila Subject: Hobby Lobby
Author: JanilaProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Sep 25, 2014 3:39 AM
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I visited our "local" (40 miles away) Hobby Lobby last night to pick up some coils for my BIA and was shocked to see their normal spot filled with other merchandise and a BIA and some assorted accessories on the clearance rack. Unfortunately, there were no coils there, so it looks as though I will be resorting to online ordering. I don't know if this was only a local discontinuation or company wide but those who can access a Hobby Lobby might want to check them out for marked down merchandise.
Msg: 870027
Subject: Re: Hobby Lobby
Author: JaybirdersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Sep 25, 2014 10:23 AM
P-173F-920M-47
Reply to: Msg 869977 by Janila
Being the thrifty person I am, I found that Walmart online is the cheapest place to buy O-wires that I've found. They were even cheaper than my favorite store, Amazon. The downside is the shipping is pretty slow (5-7 days) and you pay postage, but I have a Walmart Neighborhood Grocery store close by and I can pick it up there for free. Or you can pick it up at any Walmart for free.
Msg: 870066
FloridaFour Subject: Re: Hobby Lobby
Author: FloridaFourProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Sep 25, 2014 1:10 PM
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Reply to: Msg 869977 by Janila
I've read several articles and reviews pointing to Bind It All being discontinued. I'm sure there are some surplus they will try to get rid of. I got a huge box of wires, chipboard, etc 2 years ago, for 75% off. From what I have read, Cinch On wires by We R Memory Keepers are the same as BIA O- wires. I need some more of the 3/4 " size. I thought I would use more 1/2", but I like the larger, more sturdy ones.
Msg: 870077
Subject: Re: Hobby Lobby
Author: JaybirdersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Sep 25, 2014 3:35 PM
P-173F-920M-47
Reply to: Msg 870066 by FloridaFour
This is an interesting, if not dated, article...

http://www.judy-nolan.com/2013/04/16/dont-put-your-eggs-in-one-basket/
Msg: 877365
scouttrekkie Subject: O-wires for BIA
Author: scouttrekkieProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Nov 19, 2014 1:17 PM
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Just got this in my email today. Sounds like a good price to me on BIA wires. Haven't compared it to anywhere else but I like the assorted colors and sizes, plus shipping in $4.95 on all orders, woot!! Check it out!!
http://www.bindingdepot.com/Shop-BD/Wire-O-Binding-WIRES/
Msg: 877366
Subject: Re: O-wires for BIA
Author: JaybirdersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Nov 19, 2014 1:30 PM
P-173F-920M-47
Reply to: Msg 877365 by scouttrekkie
Is it my imagination, or are these o-wires getting harder to find? I bought a bunch at Walmart online for cheap (1/2 inch size) awhile back and now they don't seem to have them at all.

Just checked Amazon and they have Zutter Owire 1/2-Inch, 6-Piece, Black for $3.81 a pack. That's a really good price.

If you want bulk, they have Zutter Bulk Owire 1/2-Inch, 100-Piece, Silver for $42.99.

Just call me thrifty--

Patty (Jaybirders)
Msg: 877375
FloridaFour Subject: Re: O-wires for BIA
Author: FloridaFourProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Nov 19, 2014 3:03 PM
P-73F-694M-6318
Reply to: Msg 877366 by Jaybirders
For some reason, I thought Bind it alls, were being discontinued. So they may be just trying to get rid of stock.
Msg: 881622
Mommy Mouse Subject: HELP!
Author: Mommy MouseProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 26, 2014 7:26 AM
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I got a BIA for Christmas - what is a good size coil to start with? Any newbie tips? Boy are those directions confusing!!
Msg: 881627
Yumgirl Subject: Re: HELP!
Author: YumgirlProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 26, 2014 7:53 AM
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Reply to: Msg 881622 by Mommy Mouse
I use the 1/2 inch most of all, but sometimes the 3/4 inch for box logbooks. The 1-inch is good for letterboxer logbooks. I've gotten to the point where I only use 1/4 of the directions. Once you go through the directions once or twice all the way through, you'll see what I mean about some of the directions being unnecessary. It's definitely a trial and error process at the beginning.
Msg: 881629
Scooters Mom Subject: Re: HELP!
Author: Scooters MomProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 26, 2014 8:03 AM
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Reply to: Msg 881622 by Mommy Mouse
When I first got my BIA these videos really helped. http://binditall.com/VideoGuide.html

It also helps to have a logbook to look at when I'm binding one. It keeps me from putting the coils in the book backwards.

I use the 1/2 inch coils for logbooks that will be put in letterboxes. My books are usually about 3x5 inch or smaller and about 40-50 pages.
Msg: 881642
Subject: Re: HELP!
Author: JaybirdersProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 26, 2014 9:49 AM
P-173F-920M-47
Reply to: Msg 881622 by Mommy Mouse
I was pretty sorry when I first started with mine. I 'm not at all a crafty person so if I can get it, you will too! It was a lot of trial and error. The more I messed up the more determined I was to do it right. Don't feel bad if you have a hard time at first. Just keep at it. And don't be shy about asking for help. I did and everyone was great.

My favorite sizes are 1/2 inch (inside plants logbooks) and I also like the 3/4 inch and 1 inch for logbooks for use out in the field. I bought some 3/8 inch wires and to me, they are basically useless--too small. The 1 1/2 inch size is way too big to be practical to me, at least.

Good luck! You will enjoy it! It's a lot of fun.
Msg: 881648
FloridaFour Subject: Re: HELP!
Author: FloridaFourProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 26, 2014 10:47 AM
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Reply to: Msg 881622 by Mommy Mouse
For small logbooks for small containers: 1/2 inch. For larger containers (thicker and 2" deep) , I say 3/4 inch. The 1/2 inch only holds about 30 pieces of card stock.

I make a lot of large logbooks, so I use a lot of 3/4 inch. Depends what you are making...

You can always bind with ribbon or leather cord if you need a different size.
Msg: 881754
deniserows Subject: Re: HELP!
Author: deniserowsProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 27, 2014 11:16 AM
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Reply to: Msg 881622 by Mommy Mouse
welcome to the world of easy logbook making. Here's a message number with some photos to get you inspired.
Msg: 617088

deniserows
a turquoise BIA
Msg: 881924
CTEagleEye Subject: Re: HELP!
Author: CTEagleEyeProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 28, 2014 6:28 PM
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Reply to: Msg 881754 by deniserows
Message 617088

When I enter that number on the Boards/Message # search I get Message #881830. What am i doing wrong?
Msg: 881927
Subject: Re: HELP!
Author: Explorin OrrenProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 28, 2014 6:51 PM
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Reply to: Msg 881924 by CTEagleEye
Msg: 881931
CTEagleEye Subject: Re: HELP!
Author: CTEagleEyeProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Dec 28, 2014 7:54 PM
P-51F-760M-494
Reply to: Msg 881927 by Explorin Orren
Thanks! Bookmarked it!
Msg: 946419
Furface Subject: O wires
Author: FurfaceProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Jun 2, 2017 7:15 PM
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Has anyone ordered O wires from a company called www.BindingDepot.com ? Or can someone advise another source?
Msg: 946428
Furface Subject: O wires
Author: FurfaceProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Jun 2, 2017 8:00 PM
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Has anyone ordered O wires from www.BinderDepot.com? Or can you suggest another source? Thanks
Msg: 946449
Wry Me Subject: Re: O wires
Author: Wry MeProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Jun 4, 2017 5:05 AM
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Reply to: Msg 946419 by Furface
Yes. They were the least expensive place I found, but you have to order a bunch. I had no trouble with this company.
Msg: 946484
Furface Subject: Re: O wires
Author: FurfaceProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: Jun 4, 2017 7:33 PM
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Reply to: Msg 946449 by Wry Me
Great! Thanks!
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