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Msg: 89239
Blooming Flower Subject: Re: Attempted Find
Board: Stupider Questions About Letterboxing
Author: Blooming FlowerProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 12:17 AM
P-4F-65M-2266RIP
Reply to: Msg 89238 by Green Tortuga
That is funny. I can't get more than a few games in a row without having to start a game over. I tried one time to play free cell with a deck of cards while camping once. I couldn't do it. I am too used to the computer making my moves for me.

Janet, Blooming Flowers
Msg: 89240
Grandma51 Subject: Re: Mad Grammar
Board: Postals
Author: Grandma51ProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 2:00 AM
P-22F-332M-77Inactive > 1 year
Reply to: Msg 89226 by Booknut
I was just reading the posts and decided to put in my 2 cents, or maybe penny with inflation. What is just as bad is when you get no answer. I have to remind my 9 y.o. grandson and his friends all the time. It's like you're just expected to thank them, but they don't need to acknowledge it.
Msg: 89241
Grandma51 Subject: Re: Oh...my...GAWD!!! (Heroes)
Board: Television: After the Show Ends
Author: Grandma51ProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 2:02 AM
P-22F-332M-77Inactive > 1 year
Reply to: Msg 89230 by Green Guillemot
I'm just sorry it's going to end
Msg: 89242
Bungalow Boxer Subject: Re: Anderson Cooper, kidnapped?
Board: Letterboxing In the News
Author: Bungalow BoxerProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 3:03 AM
P-437F-10446M-2327Premium
Reply to: Msg 89232 by Mr Yuk
I read these articles (both the outdoor weblog one, and the Anderson Cooper press release one) and am I the only one outraged at the lack of consideration for the box?

I mean, in the Anderson Cooper press release box, they tell you EXACTLY how to get to the box! Evidentally, they did not consult letterboxers or even think about the safety of the box in question. This person CLEARLY has no clue!!!!! (This is the reason why our hobby is very word of mouth and not publicized on a consistant basis)

As for the outdoor weblog one, will ALL letterboxers become geocachers? The arrogance of this person to suggest as much is sickening to me. I am NOT a geocacher by trade. I don't GO OUT looking for geocaches. Sometimes I find one mostly by accident or with Bluebird, and log it on the geocache website, but I AM NOT A GEOCACHER! Yes, there are similarities (the whole hiding a container in the woods thing), but they are not remotely the same!

I'm so sorry for the person who planted the Anderson Cooper box that their box went missing. It's too bad that irresponsible journalism seems to be the reason for it.

Music Woman
Msg: 89243
BigRedOne Subject: Re: HAHAHAHA....REDWINGS RULE, SHARKS DROOL !
Board: Sports Emporium
Author: BigRedOneProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 3:07 AM
P-2F-20M-905Inactive > 3 months
Reply to: Msg 89040 by BigRedOne
AAAAHHHH...the MIGHTY REDWINGS are giving me conniption fits...to start so strong and falter later...
Be Safe...
BR1
Msg: 89244
Subject: Re: logbook
Board: Logbook Logistics
Author: Splish SplashProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 3:31 AM
P-7F-52M-190
Reply to: Msg 89217 by Funhog
i couldn't figure out how to sign into your logbook, but did look at the clue. that is what i meant, no actual log book but logging it online. why not just use AQ for the "book". counting it as a find.

that does sound like a cool LB. Wish I could give it a go, but I live a bit far from NY.
H
Msg: 89245
Subject: Re: Attempted Find
Board: Stupider Questions About Letterboxing
Author: EidolonProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 3:37 AM
P-233F-5931M-4588Premium
Reply to: Msg 89238 by Green Tortuga
Quote I've lost some of my skills, though. My best streak on this computer is only 51 wins in a row. *sigh* Right now, I'm at 12 wins.


For what it is worth, I read before that only 1 game of the 30000+ on the Windows version is supposed to be impossible to win...
Msg: 89246
Lone R Subject: Re: logbook
Board: Logbook Logistics
Author: Lone RProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 4:02 AM
P-80F-740M-2459
Reply to: Msg 89217 by Funhog
Quote Inclusion of a logbook is technically part of a letterbox but as you may have guessed, there are a number of ways this has been interpreted. I have one with only an online logbook http://letterboxing.org/BoxView.php?boxnum=22597&boxname=Ol'_103
and I love the idea of using something nearby. Of course this wouldn't be much use out in the forest but for an urban box it sounds dandy. Funhog


I really want to do a no-physical-logbook/online logbook box one of these days. Just the stamp - it would be great for an indoor box or where a physical box attached to something might alarm people who would call in a bomb squad. I can't see someone calling in the bomb squad for a bunny stamp attached magetically underneath a metal shelf.

Lone R
Msg: 89248
Lone R Subject: Re: logbook
Board: Logbook Logistics
Author: Lone RProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 4:06 AM
P-80F-740M-2459
Reply to: Msg 89080 by The Yorkshire Tortoise
Quote I find that letterboxes planted without a logbook (usually because they are part of a series) only end up having bits of torn out paper stuffed into the box with sig. stamps on them. Personally I think this gives the letterbox a rather tatty and unloved appearance.


It's intriguing how it's human nature to want to leave a mark, something that says I was here. Look at the initials in trees, public picnic tables, school desks as well as graffiti. Even though there's a good chance that the logbook will disappear - muggled, damaged by nature, never retrieved by the owner of the box, retrieved and thrown out, or retrieved and placed in a drawer never to be viewed again we still feel compelled to leave our mark. And even though the proof that we found a letterbox is the stamp in our personal journal we still feel compelled to leave a mark of proof of our visit.
Msg: 89249
ArchimedesScrew Subject: Re: Cape Cod Boxes
Board: State: Massachusetts
Author: ArchimedesScrewProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 4:07 AM
P-157F-504M-1087Premium
Reply to: Msg 89191 by neversaid
I'm sorry to hear that you had trouble. If you have not already done so, let the planters know which ones you've had trouble with. I know Year of the Dog and Kabutagani are missing of mine.
Msg: 89250
Subject: Re: letterboxing birthday party!
Board: Kid Shenanigans
Author: BasketCaseProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 4:25 AM
P-8F-396M-52Inactive > 1 month
Reply to: Msg 88979 by 4 Auburn Fans
Would you mind posting the link to your album again? I've looked at the messages trying to find it, but haven't and I would LOVE to see your cake.

Last year was our first year and we dragged, I mean took along (LOL!) our 2YO Son, who is now 3 1/2 and will be starting his own logbook soon. This sounds like a fun idea!

Thanks!

BasketCase
Msg: 89251
IrishRef Subject: Re: Look at Me - 1000 VLBs!!!
Board: Look at Me! Look At You!
Author: IrishRefProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 4:44 AM
P-400F-1381M-4291
Reply to: Msg 89204 by familyfun44
Welcome to the club! Box on!
Msg: 89252
debean Subject: Re: Oh...my...GAWD!!! (Heroes)
Board: Television: After the Show Ends
Author: debeanProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 4:53 AM
P-2F-69M-157Inactive > 1 year
Reply to: Msg 89230 by Green Guillemot
My reaction too! What a great show! I am sooooo entranced and I can't wait to see what happens next!!
Msg: 89253
Shadohart Subject: FCLB - Gather Photos Uploaded
Board: Event News and Planning
Author: ShadohartProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 4:56 AM
P-29F-49M-1622Inactive > 1 year
Check out the first batch of photos from the event! Anyone else who took pics and would like to upload them, please feel free to do so.
FCLB - Gather Photos

I want to take this opportunity to thank the Pyratemates for their help in getting this event put together. Also a very special thanks to Geometry Junkie who was instrumental in our success. She donated carving material for the raffle and created many of the log books that we enjoyed throughout the day. Thank you Mandy for everything you did!

Finally, a huge thank you to all the guests who drove, biked, walked, or ran to join us for the event. Without you, we'd have had a lot of empty tables! *grin* Just kidding. You are what makes and event fun and special. Thank you!

Tee
Msg: 89254
Subject: Re: Look at Me - 1000 VLBs!!!
Board: Look at Me! Look At You!
Author: familyfun44ProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:17 AM
P-27F-940M-138Premium
Reply to: Msg 89251 by IrishRef
Thanks for all your boxes!
Msg: 89255
Subject: Re: Mad Grammar
Board: Postals
Author: WebfootProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:27 AM
P-7F-187M-1426Premium
Reply to: Msg 89170 by The Little Foxes
Quote wonders what the heck she should be investing in, and do they sell social capital at Target? (or Stampeaz - LOL!!)


Quote I'm a reasonably well-read and somewhat intelligent and educated individual, and I have no idea what this social capital is.


Well, it has to do with social systems and networking. It isn't always "investing", either -- sometimes we are exhorted to "build social capital".

Would you believe there's a Wikipedia page devoted to just this concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_capital

Okay, I'm off to 6 hours of meetings. I think I will make a bingo card before I go to the conference room! LOL! Let's see, aside from the social capital thing, we have "mission critical", "inform public policy" (How does one inform public policy? I can understand informing policy makers, but policy?), "collaborative engagement".... I'll let you know how I do! ;-)

Webfoot
Msg: 89256
Subject: Re: Anderson Cooper, kidnapped?
Board: Letterboxing In the News
Author: Mr YukProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:28 AM
P-26F-219M-988
Reply to: Msg 89242 by Bungalow Boxer
I have a problem with a number of things.

Number one, it only mentions that they list clues on LBMA, but the clue points to Atlas Quest.

Number two, it seems odd to me that so many GEOCACHING websites reference the same box. Yes I know that they all reference the same article. But the original article isn't about geocaching at all. Then all of these cache websites pick up on this article and run with it. (There's actually another link to it too, but I couldn't readily find it.)

Number three, one of this placer's boxes (refer to my original post) was turned into a geocache.

Draw your own conclusions, but this seems a little wierd to me. I may be drawing inferences where none exist.

I'm a little miffed because I know the boxes they referenced in the article (I'm talking about the BoB series and such), I've met some of their placers (in fact they were pretty much my introduction to boxing and helped form a lot of my views on it) (*waves at you wonderful Philly area boxers*) and know that they would probably not want their WONDERFUL creations publicized in an article.

Mr Yuk
Msg: 89257
Subject: Re: Attempted Find
Board: Stupider Questions About Letterboxing
Author: Wild DreamsProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:31 AM
P-154F-373M-280
Reply to: Msg 89245 by Eidolon
That one game that is supposedly impossible to win is #11982. I cannot say that I have played every one of the 30.000 plus games, but I have tried this one - I would agree that 11982 is impossible . . . for what it is worth.
Msg: 89258
Subject: Re: letterboxing birthday party!
Board: Kid Shenanigans
Author: drgdlgProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:34 AM
P-177F-805M-835
Reply to: Msg 89250 by BasketCase
Here's a link to one of the pictures I found.

http://www.atlasquest.com/gallery/viewphoto.html?gPhotoId=13329
Msg: 89259
Mososo Kruppe Subject: "For Mom" and "Mother's Day" Clues updated.
Board: State: Georgia
Author: Mososo KruppeProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:38 AM
P-113F-973M-471Inactive > 3 months
Mother's Day is out and about.

Don't forget your clues to For Mom.

Hope everyone can make it!
Msg: 89260
Subject: Meeting Bingo WAS Re: Mad Grammar
Board: Postals
Author: PerduProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:47 AM
F-49M-222Inactive > 1 year
Reply to: Msg 89122 by Pierced8x
My developement team does that when we have to meet with Directors (especially when off site Corporate Directors, or equivalent) are in attendance.

Sometimes it is very amusing and the only thing that keeps us awake. We do not stand up and shout or leave the room, but it can be hard to keep composure.

I think it would work....go for it!
Msg: 89261
The Cottontails Subject: Re: Heroes - String Theory
Board: Television: After the Show Ends
Author: The CottontailsProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:52 AM
P-38F-266M-206Inactive > 1 month
Reply to: Msg 89231 by Wild Dreams
Quote Future Peter has the teleportation power. Has Peter met Hiro prior to this episode? I can't remember


Well, Hiro did visit Peter on the Subway, before Peter knew he could take others powers. So in theory, if all he has to do is meet someone he should have adapted Hiro's powers on the subway, which is funny when you consider the trouble he had getting to Texas to save Claire.

Just to get the juices flowing, if Molly could kill Peter, can she do it before he adapts her power? In addition, how is the Haiten (I know its spelled wrong) able to "block" Peter's power? Shouldn't Peter be able to absorb his ability as well?

The Cottontails
Msg: 89262
Lone R Subject: Re: Anderson Cooper, kidnapped?
Board: Letterboxing In the News
Author: Lone RProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:54 AM
P-80F-740M-2459
Reply to: Msg 89242 by Bungalow Boxer
I don't think that it can be surmised that it was the publicity that caused the box to disappear, since there was quite a gap between the news release and the suspicious rise in hits. Here's what the webpage says:
Quote Our clue was posted only at www.atlasquest.com however, last fall a travel writer publicized our box in an online news release, which attracted attention by Anderson Cooper fans. Some of them sent us outrageous and nutty e-mails and requests, but the box was never vandalized or stolen...until now.

As far as we know, there hasn't been any recent publicity about our letterbox but we did notice an exorbitant number of hits on our clue. Around 50 hits within the two weeks prior to the kidnapping.


The article was written months ago and the box survived the rest of the Fall season, the Winter season and half of the Spring season. Looks like the owner will replace the box and continue the fun. They may want to put an F1 (or more) restriction on it if they feel it was publicity that was the culprit, it may deter some nefarious types. But personally I would recarve and replant, and check off the 'hide from search engines' box. If it happened a 2nd time I'd either retire it or put an F restriction on it.

In the wise words of Rick Simpson (posted on the LBNA discussion group):

"... we all put a lot of time and energy into our boxes, and we should realize that once you plant a box, you loose control. It's no longer a personal keepsake. It's not on a shelf in your house. Your box takes on a life of it's own. It's constantly interacting with the elements, animals and other boxers. Things can and will go wrong, but things also go wonderfully right most of the time.

The whole LB community is based on a gift of sharing with strangers, which inherently has risk. There is no reward without the risk."
Msg: 89263
The Cottontails Subject: Re: Oh...my...GAWD!!! (Heroes)
Board: Television: After the Show Ends
Author: The CottontailsProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:55 AM
P-38F-266M-206Inactive > 1 month
Reply to: Msg 89252 by debean
Atlas Quest: International Letterboxing
I am just getting so excited about Monday's!!! I wish they could have shown us more of that battle between Peter and Sylar!! I almost wish they wouldn't show us scenes from next week, so I would be able to concentrate on other stuff for the rest of the week.

The cottontails
Msg: 89264
Subject: My missing cat again
Board: Critter Corner
Author: MoonduckProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 5:56 AM
P-1F-17M-870Inactive > 1 year
She came home on Saturday night! About the same exact time she went missing. We finally got some calls off of our fliers and ads that made us think she was on her way home. We went looking again for her based on the tips but found nothing, so we put all sorts of stuff out for her, a bowl of food and some of our clothes and the wide open screen door. My fiance went out to get a drink in the kitchen and she was meowing at the door. He yells loud for me and since he's accident prone I went running (just getting a drink does not mean he couldn't be hurt... clumsy, clumsy, lol) and he just put her in my arms and I broke down sobbing. She took it well, lol and he's like, why are you crying? Because I was so damn happy!!!!!
She was filthy and stinky and we had to cut things out of her tail. She's lost about 2 lbs as well, which is a lot for her! She has some weird stray white hairs now and is very jumpy, so we think she had some bad scares or something, but she's home.
She has not left my side, if I'm home, she's right there with me. Keeps following me everywhere and has slept in the crook of my arm next to my heart every night.
Thanks for all the encouragement and support guys, it really helped me thru and yay!!!! We had a happy ending after all.... and she has a new collar and they will both be getting the id implants I think as well.
moonduck
Msg: 89265
littlmoon Subject: Post Pictures for the "one For the History Books" Gathering!
Board: Event News and Planning
Author: littlmoonProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 6:00 AM
P-431F-1644M-2138
Please, I saw a bunch of camera's flashing! Please post them onto the Gathering site!
~littlmoon
Msg: 89266
Subject: Re: logbook
Board: Logbook Logistics
Author: WyvernProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 6:10 AM
P-182F-513M-734Premium
Reply to: Msg 89248 by Lone R
Quote Even though there's a good chance that the logbook will disappear - muggled, damaged by nature, never retrieved by the owner of the box, retrieved and thrown out, or retrieved and placed in a drawer never to be viewed again


Sigh...Am I the only one who is actually alarmed at this thread and perhaps, trend? Have I become inflexible in my thinking? I am a logbook junkie and the logbook is one of the more intriguing things of this hobby for me. To me, it is a historical document...and that is why when a box goes missing, my heart skips a beat...not because I have lost a good stamp but because I have lost that physical, real, paper and ink document that told me who came and went from that box.

I understand that everyone plays differently and I am not a "nay sayer" of new ideas and such...in fact I have placed letterboxes without a logbook in series, because of the same reasons...I felt the box was too small. In fact, it is nice to have a variety of boxes out there and available to find. I only sigh because I don't want this to become the way of the world.

I understand the necessity of sometimes leaving a logbook out of a box but I, for one, will try to place a logbook with every box. Especially for all of those who are compelled to leave their mark, as Lone R noted.

Wyvern
Msg: 89267
Subject: Re: My missing cat again
Board: Critter Corner
Author: CraftymouseProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 6:16 AM
P-79F-851M-200Inactive > 1 year
Reply to: Msg 89264 by Moonduck
Yaaaaaaaayyyyyy!!! I am SO happy for you guys! I was hoping that she would turn up eventually. (So much for the fox theory, right?) It is so nice to hear such a happy ending. Now fatten that girl back up!

Squeak,
Craftymouse
Msg: 89269
drexel girls Subject: Re: My missing cat again
Board: Critter Corner
Author: drexel girlsProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 6:28 AM
F-260M-517Inactive > 1 year
Reply to: Msg 89264 by Moonduck
I am so happy to hear that! Thanks for the update!! Congratulations and give her a scoop of vanilla ice cream from all of us cat lovers.

Nancy
drexel girls
Msg: 89270
Mama Cache Subject: Re: logbook
Board: Logbook Logistics
Author: Mama CacheProfileContactLogbookNote
Date: May 1, 2007 6:29 AM
P-23F-108M-1771
Reply to: Msg 89266 by Wyvern
Quote Sigh...Am I the only one who is actually alarmed at this thread and perhaps, trend? . . . when a box goes missing, my heart skips a beat...not because I have lost a good stamp but because I have lost that physical, real, paper and ink document that told me who came and went from that box.


Quote I understand the necessity of sometimes leaving a logbook out of a box but I, for one, will try to place a logbook with every box. Especially for all of those who are compelled to leave their mark, as Lone R noted.


I am with you on this one. I hope this doesn't become the norm. I don't think it will.

The logbooks are my treasures. My first plant went temporarily missing (crazy story) after it's first find. The particular finders do not have accounts on AQ or LbNA, and I had seen their images elsewhere -- almost always first finders. So, when the logbook was lost, that was it. They haven't found any of my others, and now I'm without a record at all. It was a bit sad.

I was also thinking about all of those who would not log the find at all if they were left to online logbooks. More than half of the finders of my boxes don't log finds online. I'd never know . . .

Mama Cache
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