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Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968713 by Rocklun
Nov 26, 2018 9:29am
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I'm generally wary of light poles because where there's a light pole, there might be a camera, where's there's a camera, there might be someone watching who just might wonder what's going on.
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Reply to: #968696 by MissMoon
Nov 26, 2018 11:02am
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Just for the sake of the conversation - I have been boxing for close to 20 years. I just didn't come to AQ until this summer. Really, no need to be snarky. It was just a simple thought.
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Reply to: #968708 by MissMoon
Nov 26, 2018 11:06am
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i think the original post was a off season proxy for one of wassa's april fools jokes and you were all taken in by it
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Reply to: #968750 by NandJ
Nov 26, 2018 1:33pm
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Below is my initial response
https://www.atlasquest.com/boards/message.php?msgId=968707

Now that you've revealed that you have been boxing for almost 20 years your original post is pure troll or a gag. 30 commercial stamp light post boxes in parking lots? Fess up! There are not many 20-year boxers in circulation!

:)
Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968750 by NandJ
Nov 26, 2018 1:53pm
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Really, no need to be snarky.

It's not being snarky to express the opinion that I don't feel it's necessary or a good idea to dummy down boxing in order to entice not particularly interested people into doing it. It's not snarky to point out that your impression of all boxes being buried deep in the woods is incorrect. It's not snarky to point out that there are tons of easy boxes for people to find.

And one would wonder why, if you've been boxing for 20 years as you say, you didn't point that out in your original post???? If it's true it would have given a totally different impression of your intent. It would not change my opinion and probably not the opinions of several others *about* the idea of planting the 30 easy boxes to entice people into boxing. But a 20 year boxer offering an idea like that is quite different than a newbie offering it up. Not better, just different.

I find it interesting that after these 20 years you have all of a sudden decided to plant three boxes and ask where to buy stamps. And if you've been around for 20 years you should *know* there are lots of easy boxes and be able to communicate this to potential boxers.

Your response to Kelsung......
Are you depressed because people new to the hobby maybe don't see it the same way you do? - isn't that true of nearly any hobby?

Since you say you haven't been able to entice anyone into boxing it gives the impression that you are new.

Geocaching has a greater following than letterboxing because they aren't elite.

Ok, they have a greater following....so what? And I think that boxing for 20 years.....if it's true ......and not joining AQ and the rest of the messy crowd is a lot more elitist than any of us ever could be.

Like someone just said while I was typing this......troll or gag. Pick one.
Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968679 by NandJ
Nov 26, 2018 2:22pm
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I’m predicting the much-maligned newbie smackdown, as most of us have had this very lament and postulated to the boards all kinds of ways to improve the hobby. You are in very good company.

This is the first time I’ve seen someone post every, single letterboxers’ pet peeves all in one fool-proof solution -- except maybe suggesting people shout “Rah-rah” while conspicuously and badly rehiding the box with a ten-foot pile of – oh, wait. We’re in the parking lot. Nevermind.

I’ll be as gentle as I can. It’s easy to defend those who prefer/need short hikes over long, don’t particularly care about the artistry of the boxes, (i.e. store-bought stamps and lamp skirts in parking lots), aren’t interested in planting or carving (it’s always been fine to box and not plant a blessed thing – come find my boxes!), cannot tolerate disappointment (box might be missing), and cannot or will not invest any time pursuing hobby, and probably don’t much like walking at all. Any of those are pretty fine, but what you have when you have all of them? Someone who just gave you the, “I can’t go out with you on Saturday because I’m washing my hair.”

Do you really want this? I try to plant something I myself would like to find. Am I supposed to stop handcarving stamps, seeking out suitable/interesting/pretty or at least safe places to plant, start buying stamps and planting places where retrieval is effortless and guaranteed – essentially going backward skill-wise -- to accommodate people who need a simpler form of letterboxing?

We have to further dumb down a hobby that at its basic level is essentially reading while walking? Do YOU want to go letterboxing with those folks? I guess every shampoo bottle has its lid.

I would say that the dearth of letterboxers is perhaps already related to the unlathered mass’ antipathy toward sweat equity. I’d say there’s room for all kinds for sure, but why work so hard swaying the uninterested? Let them lather, rinse, repeat.
Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968740 by dingus dufus
Nov 26, 2018 3:26pm
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Btw, we all randomly check guard rails at interesting locations right?

Oh, man. That was you? Sorry about the puddle.
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Reply to: #968766 by Wry Me
Nov 26, 2018 3:37pm
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Oh, man. That was you? Sorry about the puddle.

By “puddle”, you mean ‘brown spot’?
Heathen!
Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968758 by MissMoon
Nov 26, 2018 7:11pm
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I hung out at letterboxing.org for a really long time - until I found it got way out of date, and I took about a five year hiatus while my mom was declining due to dementia. I mean, really, I have no reason to lie about that or any of it. I used a different name on letterboxing.org - changed it when I came here because I started hunting with a friend and it seemed appropriate to include him.

It wasn't your disagreement that I thought was snarky - it was the insistence that I am obviously ignorant and ill-informed because I have only used THIS website for 4 months. There is a whole wide world out there - way broader than a single website and the opinions of a handful of people.

You seem super defensive of your right to be cranky. Not sure why. If you want to be cranky, then knock yourself out.
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Reply to: #968738 by Gremlands
Nov 26, 2018 7:18pm
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If it's an easy find, make it an interesting place to find it. If the place isn't as interesting, make it a challenge to find.

I can do that, but I don't think that the local boxers would appreciate me planting in thorny bushes and trees, up in a tree, or even on a cliff. I've done all of these for geocachers in my area, but I don't think that local letterboxers would appreciate that type of challenge.

I plant for my boxes to be found, but I will try for more challenging locations. Maybe I'll even do some gadget boxes.
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Reply to: #968763 by Wry Me
Nov 26, 2018 7:30pm
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We have to further dumb down a hobby that at its basic level is essentially reading while walking?

Don't you mean reading ***and*** thinking while walking?
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Reply to: #968774 by NandJ
Nov 26, 2018 7:33pm
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You seem super defensive of your right to be cranky. Not sure why. If you want to be cranky, then knock yourself out.

There is a lot of that going on here.

Learn to enjoy the snark. It can be entertaining.
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Reply to: #968777 by Oberon_Kenobi
Nov 26, 2018 7:38pm
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There is a lot of that going on here.

Learn to enjoy the snark. It can be entertaining.

Yes, you can be.
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Reply to: #968778 by MissMoon
Nov 26, 2018 7:59pm
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Learn to enjoy the snark. It can be entertaining.

Yes, you can be.

Who? Me?
Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968776 by Oberon_Kenobi
Nov 26, 2018 9:14pm
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Don't you mean reading ***and*** thinking while walking?

Too many things! Pop!
Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968787 by Wry Me
Nov 27, 2018 6:57am
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I deleted the last six-or-so posts to this board. This thread was getting a little nasty. I'm not moving it to the dead lemurs board--yet--but just a reminder that personal attacks against others are not appropriate. Disagreeing opinions are fine, but keep it civil.

-- Ryan
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Reply to: #968798 by Green Tortuga
Nov 27, 2018 7:05am
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I thought the horse was dead, the lemurs were just flung.
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Reply to: #968798 by Green Tortuga
Nov 27, 2018 8:43am
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Disagreeing opinions are fine, but keep it civil.

Don't make me stop this car!
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Reply to: #968798 by Green Tortuga
Nov 27, 2018 12:43pm
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Oh, wow, the dead lemurs board! It's been an awfully long time since anyone got excited enough about anything boxing related to have a thread even considered to be moved there. Ah, the good old days... ;)
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Reply to: #968823 by Frankie and Benjy
Nov 27, 2018 12:45pm
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I was just reminiscing about RogueOne.

Warrior Woman
remembers
Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968824 by Warrior Woman
Nov 27, 2018 2:19pm
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OMG!!!!!! Don't even open up that can or worms again!!!
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Reply to: #968799 by Mizscarlet
Nov 28, 2018 7:27am
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It *had* started down the road to facebutt level discussions. I call that the merry go round stage......round and round and going no place fast.

Although Ryan may soon have to find another animal.

https://psmag.com/environment/what-killed-these-lemurs
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Reply to: #968858 by MissMoon
Nov 28, 2018 8:53am
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Although Ryan may soon have to find another animal.

https://psmag.com/environment/what-killed-these-lemurs

Dang, did we do that!?!
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Reply to: #968862 by dingus dufus
Nov 28, 2018 12:13pm
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Dang, did we do that!?!

Did I do that?
Re: Finding new letterboxers/looking for a bargain
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Reply to: #968711 by Mizscarlet
Dec 23, 2018 1:04pm
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Dear Lord, I wasn't going to jump in but now I am. This has been my montra as some of my closest friends know. Some of my VERY best letterboxing experiences have been where a box was missing or one was where someone carved a simple x In the old PZ-Cut. I just took my granddaughter letterboxing for her very first time. I told her there are no guarantees will will be able to figure out the clues and that the box will even be there but I told her the box and the stamp are only PART of the deal and that any time we can spend time outdoors and exploring new places together, it was a great day! Sure enough, the box was long gone but she assured me the was still great bc she loved the little (unexpected park ) and that we had had fun. My point is that when I tell people about letterboxing, I hope their experience is in trying or exploring something new and they can figure out which aspects they like best. Some can't hike on trails any more, Some only like event boxing, Some like historic boxes or ones in cemeteries and some jump over to LTC rings. There's something for everyone so when explaining to new folks I hope they know there are many options they can try. Going to crawl back under my SPOR. Lol
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Reply to: #969604 by Trailtracker
Dec 23, 2018 3:48pm
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Totally agree, Trailtracker. And when we find enough time, we will be back to Hocking Hills to look for a number of older boxes, unknown and unvisited for a long time. The experience is totally worth it.
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Reply to: #969604 by Trailtracker
Dec 28, 2018 5:22pm
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Very well stated Trailtracker… you get a lot more out of letter boxing experiences than just the stamps…yes and there is something for everyone!
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