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Reply to: #734545 by Webfoot
Sep 30, 2012 7:52pm
I've never carved on PZ Orange. How was it different from PZ, other than color?
I still miss PZ, but I'm learning to carve on OZ with fewer tantrums. Short, shallow gauge strokes.
I still miss PZ, but I'm learning to carve on OZ with fewer tantrums. Short, shallow gauge strokes.
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Reply to: #734228 by Piper on the Trail
Sep 30, 2012 8:34pm
Great feedback, everyone! Thank you so much for your thoughts and comparisons. :-D
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Reply to: #734261 by The Wolf Family
Sep 30, 2012 8:36pm
What the heck is a reverse Staedtler?
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Reply to: #734572 by Piper on the Trail
Sep 30, 2012 8:37pm
A Reltdeats?
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Reply to: #734573 by wassamatta u
Sep 30, 2012 8:43pm
xD
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Reply to: #734556 by frykitty
Sep 30, 2012 8:51pm
All this info has me feeling like I need to go back to the drawing, er, carving board. I've never carved OZ, I've never (that I know of) carved FirmKut, and all the great advice about transfer has not worked for me. If I could just get that worked out, I'd feel a lot better about my carving. I've been avoiding carving for a while now. One thing I wanted to say about PZ Orange, which I have really liked, is that because it was translucent, I could put it on my lightbox to carve, and it was much easier to tell where I had carved versus where I hadn't, with the illumination. That was awesome.
Thinking I need to order some stuff, aT
Thinking I need to order some stuff, aT
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Reply to: #734572 by Piper on the Trail
Sep 30, 2012 9:04pm
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Reply to: #734556 by frykitty
Sep 30, 2012 9:24pm
I only tried PZ White a couple of times, and it was with almost no experience carving - so take this with a large grain of salt.
The biggest difference I noticed was in the PZ White being significantly more opaque. Given the semi-transparency in the Orange, a knife cut just looked different from the material around it. It was easy to tell the location of the cut and how deep it was going. That was a big help in controlling depth of cut.
That's for a knife cut. For gouge carvers, I don't remember anyone ever saying they found a significant advantage in it.
Just recently, I've started to notice that the pink stuff shows a little bit of that same effect. At least on shallow cuts.
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Reply to: #734556 by frykitty
Oct 1, 2012 12:02am
Completely different animal, IMHO. To me, PZ Kut white was very similar to pink stuff only stiffer. PZ Kut orange was completely different, almost as though you were cutting wax instead of rubber. It was incredibly firm -- in fact, arguably too firm for images with broad expanses of solid black -- yet a knife slid through it with the greatest of ease as though it had a built-in lubricant. You could cut the tiniest detail and still get a smooth cut, as opposed to the way pink stuff sometimes gets ragged around tiny cuts. The orange color was a key feature, as whenever you sliced it with a knife the area would glow much brighter orange, clearly indicating where you have cut and where you haven't cut yet. I've since noticed that pink stuff does this too, just to a much less noticeable extent.
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Reply to: #734603 by Kirbert
Oct 1, 2012 4:20am
Thank you for mentioning this. Now that I have new glasses, I'm really starting to notice the ragged edges and they are driving me crazy!
I have had access to only pink stuff for a long, long time. Thanks to a few folks here on AQ, I've been able to sample the firmer types of white and I am noticing some of the exact same differences that have been mentioned here with the tools. Good to know it's not just me. :)
As soon as I can get images to transfer to the other three pieces, I will have a nice set of samples to keep as PT's. All the images were made from the same type of design using the same tools, sharped before each carve. It's been a really fun experiment. Anyone have a list of all the mediums so I can double check to see what else I need to add to the group?
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Reply to: #734228 by Piper on the Trail
Oct 1, 2012 7:21am
I hated it for knife carving, but I adapted fairly well when I went back to gouging, where it's easier to get crisp lines and fine details. It resists well enough that I don't usually accidentally cut back into my already-cut lines, a pet peeve of mine and a constant problem for me. It works me way harder than either the pink stuff or PZ. I'll probably get more, but would really like to go back to my knife. Maybe the orange stuff. . .
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Reply to: #734375 by Bumble
Oct 1, 2012 9:41am
I printed a detailed picture on my inkjet & immediately rubbed it onto the pink stuff (I think) & it transferred perfectly. A lot better imprinting than tracing which I had been doing.
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Reply to: #734702 by Topcollector
Oct 1, 2012 9:44am
Agree, as carve can only be as good as the transfer.
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Reply to: #734603 by Kirbert
Oct 1, 2012 9:50am
Knife carver porn.
Oh, my.
GJ
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Reply to: #734705 by GreenJello
Oct 1, 2012 10:40am
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Reply to: #734722 by Bumble
Oct 1, 2012 3:17pm
You can say or think what you will about me if you want -- if you'll send me a slab of orange! I've been out for a coupla years now.