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Re: Poaching
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Reply to: #304666 by Funhog
Nov 1, 2008 4:02am
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Funhog,

My gut instinct is that the folks who "followed the clues perfectly" but couldn't find your box placed another box there because they thought yours had gone missing and they wanted other folks searching for your box to find something and not come up empty handed.

Wingfoot
Re: Poaching
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #304969 by Wingfoot
Nov 1, 2008 6:25am
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My gut instinct is that the folks who "followed the clues perfectly" but couldn't find your box placed another box there because they thought yours had gone missing and they wanted other folks searching for your box to find something and not come up empty handed.

That's what it sounded like to me. If it were "poached" then I would expect that the planter posted a new box in their name on AQ or LBNA and copied and pasted Funhog's clues into their description of how to get to the box.
Re: Poaching
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #304666 by Funhog
Nov 1, 2008 7:17am
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Hey Hog, If the "poachers were acting in good faith (which it sounds as if they might have been) I think I would explain the situation to them and expect they would quickly understand that their good faith effort was misguided and remove the box to be replanted somewhere else (with its own set of clues). Alternately, make it into a bonus box and move it a reasonable distance away with directional clues in your box.

Just my two cents worth,
heyokah man
(who knows that Funhog's clues and hides can be wickedly tricky)
Re: Poaching
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Reply to: #305015 by heyokah man
Nov 1, 2008 9:24am
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I have used the term "poaching" here as it is defined in the AQ glossary, with no pejorative intent. I'm sure that the folks who left their box in my spot were doing it to be sure later searchers had something to find. However, since my box was still there, the six or so groups who found their box (which was out in the open, incidentally) failed to even look for mine.

The hiders left no contact info, are not listed on LbNA or AQ as letterboxers. I have no way to make contact with them. I know they meant well but I believe their "replacement box" is unnecessary and in fact diverts folks from the original letterbox placed in 2002. Funhog
Re: Poaching
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #304666 by Funhog
Nov 1, 2008 10:32am
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This may be kind of askew from this thread...
but, I have looked and looked for this tricky Original letterbox and have never been able to find it. I have called "Uncle" a long time ago. (I know, that does not speak well for my hunting ability. But it does speak well for Funhog's tricky hide ability)
However! Now that there is another clue. i.e. the poacher's box is "within inches" of the Original Letterbox. Maybe I'll be able to find the Original. Hmmmm, I may have to give this one another go.

Hope it all works out well for you Funhog.
Sincerely, Sondog
Re: Poaching
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #305100 by Baqash
Nov 1, 2008 3:07pm
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I appreciate your honesty in admitting to not being able to find boxes on more than one try. I was thinking I was the only one who was logging in Attempts (or at least publicly willing to admit I can't find the darn things!) You have given me the hope to keep on trying! I've never tried a box by Funhog (not exactly sure what state they're even in), but I have found one planter out here that gives me fits with their clues! I'll keep on trying . . .

Thanks for the encouragement.
Re: Poaching
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Reply to: #304926 by Green Tortuga
Nov 1, 2008 3:20pm
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What if you use someone elses cluse that are very old and the box is known to have been missing for years and you do a tribute to the box that use to be there?

I don't disagree with Ryan but for an example of this tribute, Lightnin' Bug and I have both planted tribute boxes to replace missing boxes from one of the original groups in NJ. Search for clues with REDUX in the title. We both attributed the original clues to the original planters.

Also, with regard to finding a box with no clues (although this doesn't apply in FunHog's situation), just because you can't find the clues, doesn't mean there are none.

Edited to add: It looks like several people have planted REDUX boxes. Check it out.
Re: Poaching
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Reply to: #305062 by Sondog
Nov 1, 2008 3:45pm
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My has this day been a twist of fate or what.
Snakeboy and I got out and looked for Funhog's letterbox again. Snakeboy being the brillant son that he is, pointed out the correct location for the letterbox that I have been overlooking for ahhhh, well, way toooo long. So we found the poaching letterbox with no trouble. However! we failed again to find Funhog's Original Letterbox for this location! It VEXES me still! Well after smacking my head for a time and a time and a half.... I cried "Uncle" again. (I know it must be still there. Funhog had just checked on it.)
So down the hill we go. (My head hanging low...)
We get home and I go online and check my email and find a really interesting one.
You see I had a letterbox on the same Hill that Funhog's is on. (different locations) It went missing this early spring and being the preoccupied, lazy sort, not really wanting to sacrifice another box to muggles, I have hesitated to replace it.
Well, this email was a notification from well meaning souls that they had replaced my letterbox for me. Have a great day.
So, being who I am, I wrote back, hoping not to sound to hard.

"Thank you but NO!
I have been meaning to replace it myself and just have not had time to do
so.
For your information the proper steps to follow if adopting a letterbox is:
1. Notify the original owner to see if they want you to replace the box or
perform maintainance for them.
2. Only replace a letterbox if you have permission by the original owner.
If this fails, then it may be possible to adopt the letterbox and replace it
without original owner approval. Or place a new letterbox with a new title
in the hiding place.
I know you mean well but if you do it this way it is concidered poaching.
Please remove your replacement box. Or when I replace My letterbox, I will
remove it so I can give it back to you.
Sincerely, Sondog"

Well that's were this day has left us. Not sure if my replacers are the same ones trying to help Funhope but, they are trying to mean well. Hope I am on the right track and have properly enlightened the unaware poachers.

As far as finding your Original letterbox Funhog, next time you are in town, give me a shout and I'll go up with you to check on it. I obviously need your help ~Sondog