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Heroes - String Theory
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Apr 30, 2007 10:13pm
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This is most definitely the best show on television today - and tonight's episode was the best of the season (so far). Only three more episodes this season.

Who will save the world?
Will the world be saved?
I don't think the world can be saved since it is not Sylar who is the bomb, it is Peter, and Peter cannot be killed. Or can he? What is this power that Molly has? If she can kill Sylar, can she kill Peter? Do we want Peter to be killed so that this world can be saved?

Future Peter has the teleportation power. Has Peter met Hiro prior to this episode? I can't remember.

The string theory is flawed. It is based on the lie told by Nathan/Sylar that Sylar blew up New York. Save the cheerleader, Save the world was put into motion by future Hiro because he believed that Sylar got the regeneration power and could not be killed.

In the end, I think Peter is going to blow up New York. We'll see, in three weeks.

Wild Dreams
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Reply to: #89231 by Wild Dreams
May 1, 2007 5:52am
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Quote Future Peter has the teleportation power. Has Peter met Hiro prior to this episode? I can't remember


Well, Hiro did visit Peter on the Subway, before Peter knew he could take others powers. So in theory, if all he has to do is meet someone he should have adapted Hiro's powers on the subway, which is funny when you consider the trouble he had getting to Texas to save Claire.

Just to get the juices flowing, if Molly could kill Peter, can she do it before he adapts her power? In addition, how is the Haiten (I know its spelled wrong) able to "block" Peter's power? Shouldn't Peter be able to absorb his ability as well?

The Cottontails
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Reply to: #89231 by Wild Dreams
May 1, 2007 10:26am
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Quote I don't think the world can be saved since it is not Sylar who is the bomb, it is Peter, and Peter cannot be killed. Or can he?


So Peter absorbed the "bomb" power from that guy (I'm blanking on his name at the moment... and do we know what happened to him btw? I can't remember now -- did he die at the paper factory or did he manage to escape and is just off hiding somewhere again?) Anyway, we know that his "bomb" power seemed to be triggered by emotional overload. So if Peter is the one who sets off the big NYC explosion, maybe there's some extreme emotional moment that occurs which causes him to cause the explosion... something out of his control because Peter isn't going to intentionally blow up NY. Atom 118 suggested it was seeing Sylar kill his brother, but the future Peter didn't seem to know Sylar was Nathan when he stuck his hand through the door, so I don't think that's it. I'm not sure what it could be though. But if someone can figure out what it is and stop that emotional event from occurring to Peter, then I would think the explosion wouldn't occur.

Just my thoughts...
Coffee Beans
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Reply to: #89323 by Coffee Beans
May 1, 2007 10:52am
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Do we know when peter encountered the nuclear guy? I don't remember them meeting. Last week nuclear guy was escaping the paper company with Matt and Bennet, but we don't know that they make it. Except that they seemed alright this week. I think we will get the answers to some of these questions next week, right about the same time they give us more stuff to ask questions about.

The Cottontails
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May 1, 2007 10:53am
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There are definately many parralells between the two. I don't know if they acknowledge it or not though.


The Cottontails
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Reply to: #89231 by Wild Dreams
May 1, 2007 11:22am
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I found it interesting that when Nathan(or was it Sylar) cut the 'black' string, all of the 'timeline' went tumbling down...

Obviously Sylar found the 'shape shifting' gal and others over the five years since the destruction of New York, and what happened to Nathan that no one knew about for him (Sylar) to take his personna...

So many questions, and only 3 episodes left?? yikes!
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Reply to: #89332 by Chunna
May 1, 2007 7:04pm
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I found it interesting that when Nathan(or was it Sylar) cut the 'black' string, all of the 'timeline' went tumbling down...


It wasn't Sylar/Nathan that cut it, it was Mohinder, demonstrating that if you changed something in the past, it could affect the whole future (the rest of the strings).

I have to admit, the whole string theory demonstration was WAY cool. *nods*

WOW could peter be any cooler???? He has become my favorite charector! He reminded me of Neo.


Totally agree! Kinda makes me wish they'd redo the last two Matrix movies and use Peter as Neo, actually! Future Peter is definately one of my favorites. Especially the way he just kinda...strolls in, uses like, three of his powers, and saves Ando and Future Hiro... *nods again*

Future Peter has the teleportation power. Has Peter met Hiro prior to this episode? I can't remember.


Hmm...good question. Same with Ted Sprague's (nuclear man) power. I can't recall exactly when they met and he could absorb Ted's power, either.
But as for Hiro's power, yes, he has- remember the episode in which Bennet and the Haitian come and attack both Peter and the Claude (Invisible Man) while they're on the rooftoop? Peter uses Hiro's power then and freezes the taser (actually, everything there).

Also, for that matter, Peter should have every power that Sylar had at the time for Homecoming- we know that Peter gained Sylar's telekenesis, as used in the little fight between Peter and Claude... So, really, Peter should also have Sylar's original 'clock-fixing' power, too, plus anything else that Sylar got before Homecoming.

So Peter absorbed the "bomb" power from that guy (I'm blanking on his name at the moment... and do we know what happened to him btw? I can't remember now -- did he die at the paper factory or did he manage to escape and is just off hiding somewhere again?)


This week's episode takes place entirely in the future, so we won't find out about Ted, Parkman and Bennet until next week.

Obviously Sylar found the 'shape shifting' gal and others over the five years since the destruction of New York, and what happened to Nathan that no one knew about for him (Sylar) to take his personna...


Yep. Clearly Sylar found Candace (the shape-shifter), or else he couldn't pretend to be Nathan. Obviously, he also killed Nathan, hence his ability to fly. By putting his arm through the door, we surmise that he also found and killed DL, too. And of course, from last week's episode, we know that Sylar killed Isaac, and can paint the future if he wants (anyone else LOVE that Sylar's paintings are, although similar, in a totally different art style than Isaac's?).

I figure that since Parkman's working for Nathan/Sylar, Sylar's using him to bring other 'heroes' to him so he can absorb their powers as well.

I wonder about Micah, of course- DL's dead, because Sylar killed him, and apparently Nikki's been 'stripped' of Jessica, which i assume is because Micah died- from what i understand, Jessica only 'appeared' because Nikki needed to protect her son and jessica was her ability to do that.

Of course, all of this is pretty much moot now, because they're back to the 'present', and that particular future is no longer certain.

I wish they could have shown us more of that battle between Peter and Sylar!!


Totally agree! As soon as I saw both their hands start going all flame-y, and in two different colors, I was like, WAY COOL!

I also wonder how Peter got that scar! I had assumed that the 'scar' would be from Sylar's cutting into his head at the beginning of last week's episode, but it seems not. Hmm!

I'm also kind of amused at the fact that Nikki ends up Peter's girlfriend.

CQ (heading off to write a paper for class that's due on Thursday)
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Reply to: #89428 by Celtic Quinn
May 1, 2007 8:08pm
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It wasn't Sylar/Nathan that cut it, it was Mohinder, demonstrating that if you changed something in the past, it could affect the whole future (the rest of the strings).

I have to admit, the whole string theory demonstration was WAY cool. *nods*


ooops! I stand corrected CQ, it was Mohinder who cut the 'string'...(still way cool... )

(anyone else LOVE that Sylar's paintings are, although similar, in a totally different art style than Isaac's?).


it's Sylar's 'take' on the future, same, but a different furture..

I figure that since Parkman's working for Nathan/Sylar, Sylar's using him to bring other 'heroes' to him so he can absorb their powers as well.


yes!! Claire was his coup!...indestructible then no stopping him, (unless Hiro is/was a Hero :) )

Dang these time continuum conundrums!!!
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Reply to: #89261 by The Cottontails
May 1, 2007 8:55pm
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Quote how is the Haiten (I know its spelled wrong) able to "block" Peter's power? Shouldn't Peter be able to absorb his ability as well?


In the future, Sylar allows Parkman and the Haitian to live. I expect that for some reason Sylar cannot absorb the Haitian's abilities because the Haitian is blocking his ability to absorb. This would explain why Peter cannot absorb it either. Why is Parkman allowed to live? Is it because if Sylar got close enough to Parkman to try to absorb his power, Parkman would read his mind and know he was Sylar?

Things to Ponder.

WD
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Reply to: #89444 by Chunna
May 1, 2007 9:04pm
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Quote I figure that since Parkman's working for Nathan/Sylar, Sylar's using him to bring other 'heroes' to him so he can absorb their powers as well.


Yes, that would be the reason why Parkman lives - but if that is true, shouldn't Parkman be able to read Syar's mind when he is shape-shifting and realize he is Sylar and not Nathan?

More space-time continuum conundrums.
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Reply to: #89444 by Chunna
May 2, 2007 6:40am
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it's Sylar's 'take' on the future, same, but a different furture..


Well, yes, this is also true- but I was just referring to the visual difference in the art styles of Isaac and Sylar. If you look across the board at all the paintings and drawings that Isaac did, they're all in the same art style (of course, same artist :P). At the beginning of last week's episode, we saw the painting of Nathan in office. Then at the end of the episode, we saw the SAME painting, being completed by Sylar, but in Sylar's own art style.

Plus, we dont' really know if it was Sylar's 'take' on the future or not- after all, in the future, Nathan turns out to be Sylar, so the paintings ARE accurate.

But my comment was just that I was amused at the art style difference. *shrugs*

yes!! Claire was his coup!...indestructible then no stopping him, (unless Hiro is/was a Hero :) )


UGH! And as soon as 'Nathan' grabbed Claire's arm, I KNEW something was wrong! it's not like Nathan to grab her like that. And I was just like... OMG! NOOooo!

  • sighs*

CQ (screaming for the next episode)
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Reply to: #89450 by Wild Dreams
May 2, 2007 6:45am
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In the future, Sylar allows Parkman and the Haitian to live. I expect that for some reason Sylar cannot absorb the Haitian's abilities because the Haitian is blocking his ability to absorb. This would explain why Peter cannot absorb it either. Why is Parkman allowed to live? Is it because if Sylar got close enough to Parkman to try to absorb his power, Parkman would read his mind and know he was Sylar?


The Haitian isn't exactly blocking is ability to absorb. At least, not only that. He's blocking ALL of his powers. If he wanted to try and take the Haitian's powers, he couldn't, at the very least, because he can't do his et-finger-saw thingy.

But as for Parkman...I wonder if he'd know that 'Nathan' was actually Sylar? After all, unless Sylar was THINKING about something that would give him away, Parkman wouldn't hear it.
Plus, Sylar must know about Parkman's power, so he's probably careful.

CQ
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Reply to: #89510 by Celtic Quinn
May 2, 2007 8:33am
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I wonder if they'll ever do anything with the unsuspecting messenger guy that received Isaac's sketch book as a gift. Isaac told Sylar he knew how "they" killed him and when Sylar asked to see the pictures, Isaac said they were already gone. Probably in that sketchbook??
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May 2, 2007 8:48am
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I wonder if they'll ever do anything with the unsuspecting messenger guy that received Isaac's sketch book as a gift. Isaac told Sylar he knew how "they" killed him and when Sylar asked to see the pictures, Isaac said they were already gone. Probably in that sketchbook??


Actually, I think he meant the newest edition of 9th Wonders, which is the copy that Hiro has now brought back from the future, I think. *nods*

But yeah, I wonder about the sketchbook too! Seems too important.

CQ
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Reply to: #89510 by Celtic Quinn
May 2, 2007 10:07am
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"Well, yes, this is also true- but I was just referring to the visual difference in the art styles of Isaac and Sylar"

Also, when Peter absorbed Isaac's power, he painted just like Isaac, while Sylar painted a disjointed, almost alternate version of Isaac's painting.
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Reply to: #89570 by Jaxx
May 2, 2007 11:11am
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Also, when Peter absorbed Isaac's power, he painted just like Isaac, while Sylar painted a disjointed, almost alternate version of Isaac's painting.


Also true. But I wonder, did that really reflect Peter's art style when doing so? If I remember correctly, when Peter used the painting ability, it was to finish one that Isaac had already started. So, Peter was really just continuing Isaac's style of painting.

CQ
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Reply to: #89428 by Celtic Quinn
May 2, 2007 11:59am
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I'm also wonder how Peter got that scar! I had assumed that the 'scar' would be from Sylar's cutting into his head at the beginning of last week's episode, but it seems not. Hmm!


Also, what sort of injury would be so severe that he couldn't completely heal it, using Claire's self-healing power? Something to do with the nuclear bomb?
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Reply to: #89612 by Booknut
May 3, 2007 10:04am
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Quote Also, what sort of injury would be so severe that he couldn't completely heal it, using Claire's self-healing power? Something to do with the nuclear bomb?


My hubby thought that maybe when he healed himself after exploding that some of the pieces got realigned wrong somehow, like maybe he has scars other than just the one on his face.

I can't wait until Monday!

When this show comes to dvd I am staying in the house & watching a heroes marathon!
-LM
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Reply to: #89791 by Littlemonkey
May 3, 2007 10:25am
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CQ, I'm with you on the two different, cool art styles. They were actually done by different (extremely well-known) comic book artists. Tim Sale created all of Isaac's paintings, and Sylar's art is being done by Alex Mendeev.

Hey, LittleMonkey. Why wait for DVD? The SciFi channel is showing a marathon on May 19--from 9 a.m. to 5 a.m.--every single episode, two days before the season finale airs. Woohoo! (Check scifi.com for details on the schedule for your time zone, etc.)

The Dread Pirate Queen
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Reply to: #89800 by TheDreadPirateQueen
May 3, 2007 10:26am
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And, oh yeah, I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:)
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May 3, 2007 1:44pm
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Hey, LittleMonkey. Why wait for DVD? The SciFi channel is showing a marathon on May 19--from 9 a.m. to 5 a.m.--every single episode, two days before the season finale airs. Woohoo! (Check scifi.com for details on the schedule for your time zone, etc.)


SWEEET!
I've been saying I can't wait for the DVD to come out, because I'm gonna lose a day of my life just watching all of the episodes straight through.... AWESOME!
Kitten and Falling LEaves both kinda like Heroes, but they haven't watched more than an episode or two for the same reason as I can't watch them live- we're too busy.
But with this marathon, we can totally do it!

Thanks!

CQ
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Reply to: #89884 by Celtic Quinn
May 4, 2007 5:45pm
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Quote SWEEET!
I've been saying I can't wait for the DVD to come out, because I'm gonna lose a day of my life just watching all of the episodes straight through.... AWESOME!
Kitten and Falling LEaves both kinda like Heroes, but they haven't watched more than an episode or two for the same reason as I can't watch them live- we're too busy.
But with this marathon, we can totally do it!


Awww, CQ, come on, buddy ol' pal...you know we don't have cable...you're gonna TAPE it for us, right? Right???
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Reply to: #90169 by Sprite and Highlander
May 4, 2007 9:17pm
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Awww, CQ, come on, buddy ol' pal...you know we don't have cable...you're gonna TAPE it for us, right? Right???


I might be able to arrange that! :D

CQ
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Reply to: #90204 by Celtic Quinn
May 5, 2007 9:44am
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Quote I might be able to arrange that! :D


YES! And bring it to gaming on the 26th! (bounce)
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Reply to: #90244 by Sprite and Highlander
May 5, 2007 1:49pm
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About the two different art styles...
What I noticed was that Sylar's interpretation had Nathan standing in the oval office just as Isaac's did, but the face of Nathan was green and monster-like. Until last week, I didn't understand what that meant, but now I know that it represented the fact that Sylar took over Nathan's image therefore there is a "monster" in the oval office. (I love that little metaphor they dropped in so subtlely!)
Peace out!