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Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #456962 by Trailhead Tessie
Nov 1, 2009 1:25am
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The primary purpose of a logbook I think was to prove to others you had been there

No. The point of a hand-carved stamp is that if you have the stamp image it proves you'd been there. The point of the logbook is to leave a record for future boxers and the planter of your adventure. One is something you take with you, the other is something you leave behind.

Kelsung
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457017 by Kelsung
Nov 1, 2009 7:46am
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I couldn't DISagree more. I would have far less knowledge of who found my plants without the logbooks, because most finders don't post their finds online.

Not the same thing. For a regular letterbox, stamping into the log book is what you normally do; logging online is an optional extra. But for a logbookless box, logging into the online log book would be the SOP. So for how many finders you'd expect wouldn't bother, ask yourself how many don't stamp into your paper log books now.
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457018 by Kelsung
Nov 1, 2009 7:48am
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The primary purpose of a logbook I think was to prove to others you had been there

No. The point of a hand-carved stamp is that if you have the stamp image it proves you'd been there.

When you sign a contract, both you and the other party get signed copies of that contract. Same thing is true here: both your log book and the box log book contain proof of your visit.
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #456962 by Trailhead Tessie
Nov 1, 2009 8:48am
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when someone finds the stamp, having that code allows them to log their find online

Just some of my thoughts.....

Some don't log their finds.
Someone may have "slipped" and let the "code out of the bag".
Some may have intended to log the find on-line but didn't write the code down and forgot it.
Some may not like it.
Some may think that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Me......I would be the the one that missed seeing the info about a "code" and couldn't log it on-line because of my "get it done quick" style. Now what do I do?

Y~K b
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #456481 by Leviathan
Nov 1, 2009 9:43am
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Leviathan:

I have a pirate flag series that I did a while ago each box's stamp is the flag of a particular pirate. Each of the 5 boxes has a fact sheet inside about the particular pirate who's flag is featured. You copy the facts down, then solve a virtual letterbox using the facts that were included in the boxes. After the virtual is solved you get the clues to an elaborate bonus box in the congratulatory message. I did this because I put so much time and effort into the bonus box that I think people should have to do some extra work to get it, also I was afraid that it would go missing. So far this series has been very popular and the virtual method has been working great! I personally think this is my best series so far. If you want to see the clues and info go to my logbook under traditional plants and look at my Avast! Series :)

~Captain Raehawk
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #456952 by Lone R
Nov 1, 2009 9:52am
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the techique was passed on to me by Green Tortuga - he suggested gorilla glue.

I've never actually tried gorilla glue before. I'm not sure I'd take my suggestion too seriously. =) I've heard good things about it, but I'm not vouching for it!

-- Ryan
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457093 by Green Tortuga
Nov 1, 2009 12:06pm
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the techique was passed on to me by Green Tortuga - he suggested gorilla glue.

I've never actually tried gorilla glue before. I'm not sure I'd take my suggestion too seriously. =) I've heard good things about it, but I'm not vouching for it!

You are correct sir. I looked up the old message in my email and it says that you think you used Gorilla Glue but generally you use whatever glue you have around. I remember trying the gorilla glue but I gobbed it on and got impatient waiting for it to dry so I switched to silicone sealant. Maybe we need Kirbert to test different glues for stamp-only magnet stamps. Glues like: sealant, E6000, gorilla glue, etc and tell us which one holds up best. Anyway, I thank you for passing on the method of using a small earth magnet recessed into the back of the rubber and then covering it with a sheet magnet (for a little extra grip, but mostly to help hold the earth magnet in the stamp). My Grenadier Pond stamp has been alive and well, outdoors but protected, since July 2007.
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457112 by Lone R
Nov 1, 2009 3:01pm
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Maybe we need Kirbert to test different glues for stamp-only magnet stamps. Glues like: sealant, E6000, gorilla glue, etc and tell us which one holds up best.

I use Gorilla Glue all the time. It's good stuff. It expands as it dries, though, so if you're not careful your stamp will end up lumpy. You will want to set the stamp face-down on a flat surface, put together whatever you're gluing, put a layer of wax paper over it, and set a weight on it while drying. This will ensure that, as the glue foams up, it squirts out the sides rather than forming lumps. It'll dry in blobs around the edges, but it's easy to cut them off. Make sure not to apply too much weight or the stamp itself may distort and buckle under the weight, which would allow the glue to dry all crooked.

Regarding the other glues: I haven't used the E6000, but I have used Perfect Glue #1 and a Goop craft glue which were similar. They worked well enough for me, but I rarely use them because I rarely have cause to. I glue rubber to foam (using headliner adhesive) and wood to wood (using Gorilla Glue) on every stamp, but rarely any other types of gluing.
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457112 by Lone R
Nov 1, 2009 3:17pm
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Hey Lone R ...I really liked the Grenadier Pond stamp. It was so "public" and accessible, and a fun change from the hike-in-the-woods ones! If my daughter had been with me that day, I'm sure it would have been her favourite. lol
I personally didn't mind not having the physical logbook, but I did log my find online.
BTW, where does one find "rare earth magnets"?
Thanks.
Where's Wendy
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #455359 by RubberRabbit
Nov 1, 2009 3:54pm
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I'm considering just planting the stamp without the logbook. ....and I would like to hear some opinions.

If I knew that there wasn't going to be a logbook in the box beforehand, I would have no problem with it.

If I found a box without a logbook, but was expecting one, I may worry about it and try to "fix" what could be perceived as a problem.

Just my "opinion"......I hope all of these answers are helping you!
Y~K b
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457155 by RubberRabbit
Nov 1, 2009 5:13pm
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Thanks for the compliment on the Grenadier Pond stamp-only letterbox.

BTW, where does one find "rare earth magnets"?

I got a bunch from Lee Valley:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32065&cat=1,42363,42348&ap=1

I've seen rare earth magnets at other stores but right now I can't remember where I've seen them. They're not as rare (pun intended) a find as they were a few years ago. If you can't get to (or order from) Lee Valley, check craft stores and hardware stores.
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457093 by Green Tortuga
Nov 2, 2009 6:19am
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I've never actually tried gorilla glue before. I'm not sure I'd take my suggestion too seriously. =) I've heard good things about it, but I'm not vouching for it!

I've used it, but have gone exclusively to E-6000. Gorilla Glue may be strong, but it is not what I'd call very flexible after it dries.

GJ
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457317 by GreenJello
Nov 2, 2009 9:30am
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Gorilla Glue may be strong, but it is not what I'd call very flexible after it dries.

That it's not. That's why I don't use it to bond rubber. I only use the Gorilla Glue to bond wood, which it is ideal for. Still, others might not care all that much about the flexibility -- you're supposed to keep the stamp flat anyway -- so it might be usable for the task described.
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
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Reply to: #457365 by Kirbert
Nov 2, 2009 9:43am
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Still, others might not care all that much about the flexibility -- you're supposed to keep the stamp flat anyway -- so it might be usable for the task described.

I found when I used Gorilla Glue to mount the stamp on foam (which was on wood), it dried too inflexible. You got lousy stamp impressions. Flexible glue for mounting rubber is way, way better. Cheaper, too.

When mounting the stamp to thick foam, the Gorilla Glue tended to crack. Once again, not flexible.

I highly recommend the inexpensive and nicely flexible E-6000 glue.

GJ
Re: Just a Stamp vs Stamp & Logbook
Board: Traditional Letterboxes
Reply to: #457155 by RubberRabbit
Nov 2, 2009 11:36am
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BTW, where does one find "rare earth magnets"?

You can find these at educational stores, but they are often overpriced. They are also used by woodworkers and can be found at hobby shops.