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Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383146 by knit wit
May 1, 2009 4:22am
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No matter how long you live here, you can be certain that you will leave with "y'all" firmly embedded in your vocabulary. And everywhere you go, it will be a dead giveaway that you once made your home in the South.

This statement is so true for me. :) I been in Yankee territory for three years and I still say y'all. I'm most likely to notice myself using it when I'm shopping. "Excuse me. Do y'all have......?"

dancing pecan
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383276 by dancingpecan
May 1, 2009 9:45am
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I was performing at a high school in New Orleans several years ago. A teenager asked me, "Where do y'all put y'all's stuff when y'all are on the road?"

I was enchanted!

KuKu
Re: Y'all vs. the "abomination"
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383273 by Dixie
May 1, 2009 9:46am
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what matters more to us than AQ?
The glossary at AQ is all **Y'all* need ;)
http://www.atlasquest.com/aboutlb/glossary/y.html

Hmmmm, I wonder when that got added. . . :o)

KuKu
Re: Y'all vs. the "abomination"
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383421 by KuKu
May 1, 2009 10:39am
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well, contrary to popular belief right now....

I didn't do it....
and it was already there when I went and looked! :)
Re: Y'all vs. the "abomination"
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383464 by Dixie
May 1, 2009 10:47am
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Nope, wasn't thinking of you. You joined the conversation late.

Just wondering. . . maybe, Ryan . . .

KuKu
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383086 by SuziLivvi
May 1, 2009 11:06am
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I said: a norm from which it variates

SuziLivvi considered my word choice incorrect and suggested: [varies]

I chose the word "variates" on purpose due to the phrase "variate from the norm". Perhaps the fact that I arranged my sentence to not end the clause with a preposition (in this case "from") confused you.

From Dictionary.com:
Variate
Va"ri*ate\, v. t. & i. [L. variatus, p. p. of variare. See Vary.] To alter; to make different; to vary.

"Variate" is a word so don't presume I meant "vary". The phrase is "to variate from the norm".

Knit Wit
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383020 by Pungent Bob
May 1, 2009 11:08am
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You know, I'm liking "cover the basis" as in cover the basis for a discussion or argument.

For years, I spoke "for all intents and purposes" as "for all intensive purposes" until I finally saw it in print and made the connection.

You know, I like my way better!

=)

KuKu
Re: Gun Control
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Reply to: #383077 by KuKu
May 1, 2009 3:06pm
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9. I did feel naked while in Spain this spring without a weapon...but I had a flashlight...
Were you doing some night boxing? ;)

Nope no night boxing in Northern Spain for me this past trip...Maybe some this August in Southern Switzerland or definitely some in Southern Spain this September/October...btw I will be 45 minutes from the Med...swimming anyone?...be safe
BR1 who is glad to have a career that pays for letterboxing internationally...be safe y'all...
BR1
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383252 by Alaska hsm
May 1, 2009 5:43pm
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She has a friend here and there who said this and that

I haven't quoted any friends as authorities- unlike some of you (Don, Dixie, stink bob et al) who think merely their own word is good enough authority- no actual research or authority is needed.

I provide dozens of on-line examples and the response is that all those people are ignorant or stupid and that Texans don't count. What an intelligent and mature response!

I point out South Carolina folk who agreed and naturally that is ignored (Dixie- South Carolina is even more Southern than your hillbilly locale, isn't it?)

No, I just cite to the U.S. Supreme Court (on gun control) and an online debate that has been existance for years- which, unlike the AQ glossary, was not faked to provide psuedo 'authority'.

Sore losers, all of you.
Re: Y'all vs. the "abomination"
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383474 by KuKu
May 1, 2009 6:05pm
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Nope, wasn't thinking of you. You joined the conversation late.

Just wondering. . . maybe, Ryan . . .

KuKu

Ryan is from California and knows better to get into conversations about Southern language when he cannot even understand what half my relatives are saying to him!

-Amanda from Seattle (but born in Iredell County, NC and raised in Pender County, NC)
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383667 by SuziLivvi
May 1, 2009 6:09pm
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I was going to respond to this publicly but decided that everything I had to say was really just for you.

You have mail.

Knit Wit
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383667 by SuziLivvi
May 1, 2009 6:13pm
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SuziLivvi - have you ever even been in the southeastern US? Generally living in an area for 40+ years and "speaking the lingo" for those years gives one some authority on how that lingo is spoken. "On-line research" is dubious at best - any fool can post on the internet - but I will stand by what I've said and heard these 40+ years.

Perhaps in the future you can contain your comments to subjects that you actually have some knowledge of (yeah, it ain't proper grammer, but my fellow hillbillies know what I'm talking about ;-)).

I'm going back into the woods to box and out there no one cares when or if I say y'all or whether I'm a redneck, hillbilly or how many years I spent in higher education - or not...... I like the woods.....!!!

Mama Fox, Redneck Hillbilly
Re: Y'all vs. the "abomination"
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383682 by Amanda from Seattle
May 1, 2009 6:36pm
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at least you can spell Iredell correctly Amanda...now why Pender County?...
Be Safe...BR1 a former Iredell resident(15 years) who married an born and raised Iredell resident...until the YOOP move...
BR1
Re: Y'all vs. the "abomination"
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383706 by BigRedOne
May 1, 2009 6:42pm
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at least you can spell Iredell correctly Amanda...now why Pender County?...

well, when you are 4 years old, they don't give you much say when deciding where the family is moving! :-)

-Amanda from Seattle
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383667 by SuziLivvi
May 1, 2009 7:02pm
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Sore losers, all of you.

Quoting that ever-popular TV psychologist, Dr. Phil, "Would you rather be right or have a relationship?"

Having just gleaned this from your profile:
Q: What is your greatest fear? Man-eating bears? Blood-thirsty bats? Something else?
A: Ending up old & poor & sick & alone; my kid having gotten fed up with me.

Perhaps the good doctor's words are worth pondering.
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383667 by SuziLivvi
May 1, 2009 7:17pm
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Sore loser? Ha.
You seem to ignore the simple fact that Ya is not a word like I stated before and that simple point makes your entire argument null and void.

Now... My hillybilly arse knows all about those who like to think they know about us... Funny jusy how clueless you are.

And you know about our language how? Google? Yeh that will hold in court.
Lol
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383667 by SuziLivvi
May 1, 2009 8:18pm
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I've been suspecting for a while that SuziLivvi is merely a troll. Any alternative is worse.
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383667 by SuziLivvi
May 1, 2009 9:11pm
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Now that I am home and not on a blackberry which is still as hard fro me to type on now as it was 2 months ago...
I will address your holier than thou attitude about the word Y'all

Dixie- South Carolina is even more Southern than your hillbilly locale, isn't it?

South Carolina happens to be about 40 minutes from me....
but still.... there are many folks laying claim to be a Carolinian even though they are not from 'round here at all.
Again... Southern doesn't mean just southerly in geographic location.
I get the impression you use the term hillbilly to imply we are ignorant and sore losers. *laughing wildly*
You'd be hard pressed to find a people with more grit and know how.... and we are hardly ignorant.
Even we hillbillies know how contractions work ;)

so...
you want to recite resources from Google searches? I can do that too... but first
http://www.yall.com/

here are online definitions:
  • y'all: A southern contraction of the term, "you all."

  • Y'all: a contraction of You and All. Ya'll is spelled incorrectly and "all y'all" is perfectly legitimate. Never use y'all to refer to one person.

  • y'all: Southern 2nd person plural pronoun. Most concise and easily distinguished. Despite the assurance of some emails that have been passing around, "y'all" is plural.

  • Y'all: a Southern-Created contraction of, "You," and, "All." Often misspelled, "Ya'll," which is so plainly incorrect.

and here is another:
  • y'all: is the contractive of 'you all'. It is plural, referring to two or more people. It is never ya'll. The 'a' is not a part of you, it's a part of all (you wouldn't spell it out as youa ll, would you?).

Sore losers, all of you.

I may be sore...
but it's not because I have lost an expletive thing ;)

and what you should have said is:
All Y'all are just sore losers.

Oh and I have a few more words too but I think my friend said it just fine and dandy.
Did ya read that email yet?
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383692 by The Little Foxes
May 1, 2009 9:16pm
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I just had a funny thought...
Suzi probably would walk into any little "hillbilly" restaurant around here and ask "What's a grit?"

*snorting with laughter*
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383721 by Funhog
May 1, 2009 9:18pm
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Having just gleaned this from your profile:
Q: What is your greatest fear? Man-eating bears? Blood-thirsty bats? Something else?
A: Ending up old & poor & sick & alone; my kid having gotten fed up with me.

So Suzi...
is your kid on AQ? ;)
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #382995 by SuziLivvi
May 2, 2009 5:28am
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Straight here from SC, I have to say I have NEVER seen anybody spell it ya'll. My husband was born and raised here and I have lived here at least 20 years. I came here from south Florida 20 years ago and was taught from the beginning (when I had NO idea what y'all could possibly mean...or yonder) that this is a contraction for you all...never heard anyone say ya around here either.

't'
(who had to get some SC info from the trenches in this thread)
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383763 by Dixie
May 2, 2009 5:31am
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OK, Dixie. Let's leave Suzi alone and show true Southern gentility and hospitality. "Wes kin talk anyway we wanna and that be the way we is." I've only been a Southerner for 22 years but the lingo is so easy to slide into.

However, to make a judgement of someone based on their locale is a serious mistake.....and the heighth of ignorance too.
Zoemomma
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383821 by zoemomma
May 2, 2009 5:59am
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OK, Dixie. Let's leave Suzi alone and show true Southern gentility and hospitality.

*pointing toward Suzi in school yard fashion*
but... but... she started it. *laughing*
We southern Appalachian folk don't take to folks jawing about us so I am showing my southern streak and supporting my people. ;)

"Wes kin talk anyway we wanna and that be the way we is." I've only been a Southerner for 22 years but the lingo is so easy to slide into.

That's totally different than our lingo. LOL
We never say "way we is" here but I do understand you anyways. ;)
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383765 by Dixie
May 2, 2009 6:46am
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Everybody knows that grits are Girls Raised In The South.

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Grits: God's most nearly perfect food. (O.k. I might be a tad biased, but I love 'em). And please forgive me for temporarily living in Yankee territory.

dancing pecan
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383844 by dancingpecan
May 2, 2009 7:12am
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"I like grits, too. How do you cook your grits? Do you like them regular, creamy or al dente?" - V

I actually like grits and try to get a helping whenever I visit western KY on business.

LB
Re: Y'all vs. the "abomination"
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #383474 by KuKu
May 4, 2009 7:24pm
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Just wondering. . . maybe, Ryan . . .

Don't look at me. I didn't find out about that entry until just now!

-- Ryan, who generally avoids reading the junk on this board
Re: Y'all vs. the "abomination"
Board: Dead Horses, Lemurs, and Kittens!
Reply to: #384861 by Green Tortuga
May 4, 2009 7:29pm
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Don't look at me. I didn't find out about that entry until just now!

*whistling innocently while looking at nothing in particular*
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #383667 by SuziLivvi
May 4, 2009 7:34pm
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I provide dozens of on-line examples and the response is that all those people are ignorant or stupid and that Texans don't count. What an intelligent and mature response!

You can probably find about a million online examples to support either method of spelling, but I am impressed with your impassioned defense of ya'll.

The "I found it on the Internet" defense isn't a strong argument, though.

-- Ryan
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #384874 by Green Tortuga
May 5, 2009 2:58am
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You can probably find about a million online examples to support either method of spelling...

6,370,000 for the wrong way, 12,400,000 for the right way.

Welcome to the information age.
Re: Y'all vs. Ya'll (was Gun Control)
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Reply to: #384994 by Kirbert
May 5, 2009 10:43am
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6,370,000 for the wrong way, 12,400,000 for the right way.

Welcome to the information age.

Every once in a while, Kirbert, you make my day! ROFLOL